nonno

Can anyone post pics on Pewter ext. with charcoal int?

Also, Iheard you can use plus instead of prem gas in MB products. Any opinons?

tifosiv122

In some states, including NY, I know that a manufacturer can void their warrantee if you do not put in the recommended octane and you cause damage to the car as a result. For MB its 92.

Erik

Matt230K

You can use plus, it will be just fine. Plus, I think the C320 is able to run on different fuels. There is a sticker that comes on C320's that says something about alternative fuels and what mpg it will get with a different fuel. Except I don't know whether they are just talking different octanes, or a completely different type of fuel.

Regardless, you can still use plus.

nonno

thanks guys!

CRB

Well, it should save Mercedes a bundle of warranty repair expenses voiding all the claims from California where the top gas is only 91 octane.

mleskovar

There are many posts on this subject. Some claim that octane requirements are selectable to some extent with the Star Diag system. My 3.2L Dodge Intrepid is tuned for 87 octane. I'm curious how much hp is lost on the MB engine if it were set up for 87 octane.

TimmyC230boy

my coupe runs fine on 89

Apollo

Hi

Can I ask how much you are paying for your fuel in US.
I am a little confused as this thread is about saving money by putting in a lower octane, yet you spend a lot of money buying a premium brand like MB and don't you get very cheap fuel over there anyhow.
We are approaching £0.80 a litre over here £3.60 a gallon. $5.40 approx

tifosiv122

I did say some states...CA is obviously not one of them. 91 and 92 are the same idea...89 is what they don't want you using when they ask for 92.

Erik

moomeh

i pay for i think 93 or 94 octane about $1.50. three weeks ago it was about $1.25 a gallon. however, i know when to fill up. during the week this days it can go to $1.90. the best day to fill up here is usually wednesdays.

this is just the michigan and ohio prices i pay for gas. i don't know about other states.

Matt230K

US prices now seem to vary between about $1.50 and over $2.00. I think the California guys have it worst, how much over $2.00 is it now?

But Apollo, you're right, we do have relatively cheap gas, and the savings between plus and premium is usually only 10 cents a gallon, so you're talking $1.50 savings on a full tank. It's not much difference, but I guess everyone likes to save whatever they can, and it also depends on how much you drive and how often you need to buy gas. I usually just go for 93 octane, especially since installing my pulley.

CRB

Currently in the Bay Area two dollars and twenty-nine cents and rising for ninty one octane "premium". I just hope Bushie wraps up his Middle East act before it hits three bucks per. It isn't that I mind paying it but I wish the money was going to road improvements rather that the oil cartels.

SiLvaC32

yea... we have over 2 bucks now...

Buellwinkle

Early on when this forum started someone did a dyno test using 89 octane on the coupe instead of the recommended 91 and got something like 19 hp less. This car is on the edge with 91 octane, I wouldn't dare run it with less. That's not to mean the same is true for a 3.2L.

spchaser

2.23/gallon premium in Brentwood Cali

Buellwinkle

In a week or two that will seem cheap. If $3/gallon gas will get these mega sport utes of the road them I'm all for it, bring it on!

nyca

if won't get the sport utes off the road, and it shouldn't, since sales of those vehicles are the only thing keeping the US auto industry alive. Thats about all of the manufacturing base we have left here.

Matt230K

The only reason SUV's are carrying the US auto industry is because those people who don't buy SUV's go and buy Camry's and Accord's and some German cars. But if people stopped buying Chevy and Ford SUV's, they might still buy cars from these US companies.

nyca

that's right, American auto companies do not make the best cars. We can argue why, and that they should, etc. But the fact remains that they do not. They do however make the best light trucks, minivans, etc. I don't want to see them implode if people rush to dump light trucks and move towards cars made mostly by Asian manufacturers.

Matt230K

Minivans and light trucks are fine. But some of the stuff they are building now are more than just "light" trucks. They might still use that term, but they are far from light. I don't have a huge problem with SUV's, but I do wish there were not so many. And I don't take any of these people seriously as drivers. I consider them someone who just needs to get out of my way. It is a rare occasion when I see an SUV driver who is actually courteous.

Wheens

Not as rare as a cyclist!! Lane hogs and red light runners all!!! Oh, and nearly always in herds!!!

Matt230K

Not too many cyclists around here, but plenty of SUV's. And I think a cell phone always attached to the ear is a requirement in SUV's.

Buellwinkle

I'm all for cellphones for each ear, the more merrier, it keeps me employed What's really nice is really bad weather and nasty traffic jams, that keeps usage up! As for SUV's keeping America going, I don't know about that. I have a foreign SUV and the coupe. If gas hits $3/gallon and people kept their SUVs for special occasions and bought small cheap commuter cars that would work also. The trouble is there aren't too many great gas mileage commuter cars to be had. I went to to the VW dealer looking for a diesel Jetta (42/49 mpg) and the salesdude said they only get about 2-3 of them per year, the demand is there, people ask for them but non to be had. Ideally the best car for commuting in CA is the Civic GX that uses CNG because you can get a single occupant carpool lane use sticker and CNG is half the price of gasoline, the problem is they don't exactly make a lot of them also. What would be great is the VW Lupo 3L TDI, they call it the 3L because it gets better than 3 liters per 100 kilometers fuel consumption (or close to 100 mpg for us). This would be great strictly as a get to work car and nothing else.

bagwell

my thoughts exactly...less traffic !!!

TXTiger

Then maybe resale values of our more fuel efficient M-B's will go up as people start to dump SUV's............one can hope anyway!