X Pipe Installed - Detailed Post Analysis and Common Questions Answered
I've done a lot of searching of posts and decided to be more comprehensive here:
SOUND:
A - No detectable change from stock
B - Small change but only if you are listening for the sound
C - Noticeable to even the untrained ear
D - Significant change and obtrusive and annoying
1. Idle with windows up = A
2. Smooth acceleration (never exceed 3000 rpm) from stop with windows up = B
3. Aggressive acceleration (3000 rpm to 5000 rpm) from stop with windows up = B to C.
4. Smooth acceleration (never exceed 3000 rpm) from stop with windows down = B to C.
5. Aggressive acceleration (3000 rpm to 5000 rpm) from stop with windows down = C.
6. Cruising on the highway = A to B.
7. Driving in manual shift mode and keeping higher rpm (3000+ rpm) = C.
8. Engine Start (warm or cold) = A.
In all situations, it is never even close to D, windows up or down. There is no drone in any driving situation or shifting mode. In either E or S mode in automatic, there's not much difference in regular driving. If you take it easy all the time, you could probably drive for years and just forget the x-pipe is installed. If you have a critical Wife, she would never know and if you're constantly driving hard enough to bring out the volume, she will probably have other complaints beyond the sound. If you turn the stereo on at a mild level with the windows up, you can barely hear any real difference in regular easy driving.
PERFORMANCE:
Initial impressions are absolutely no change (I cannot comment on any ECU adjustment over 2 weeks that I've read about). I can't tell if there's a decrease or increase in acceleration and if there is, it is imperceptiable to the human senses. I took a close look inside the cut out resonator and it is essentially connected like a flat double helix (not sure if that's the best description). From the poor diagram below: it is dual inlet, then opens up inside to merge both pipes and then two outlets. The internal core is perforated to channel the exhaust and reduce the sound. There is a merge point inside the internal resonator (the circle in the diagram). I understand the exhaust scavenging and the smoother flow of the x-pipe but don't expect any measurable gains over the stock resonator. I'm going to guess that a dyno would yield a few hp (at most) at higher rpm.
Also, the original resonator is not a huge hulking mass so there is weight savings compared to a notebook computer bag or something being removed from the trunk.

FINAL VERDICT: DO IT
For the cost and audible enjoyment, it's a simple decision to get this done. It's cheap and has no negative sound. You could drive for the entire duration of car ownership and not really know it's installed. Please don't get this installed if you are searching for any major performance improvement. I kept the original resonator and it can easily be put back.
The work included the extension pipes to make up the shorter length of the x-pipe from the original resonator.
It is -15 celsius ( -5 fahrenheit) in Toronto today. Hope this helps some people who are searching around for more answers or going through the other archived threads.
Last edited by Distinct; Jan 31, 2011 at 04:39 PM.
D - Significant change and obtrusive and annoying
(There's your D answer)
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Here's my assessment for my C350 with the Magnaflow X-Pipe.......
1. Idle with windows up = B
2. Smooth acceleration (never exceed 3000 rpm) from stop with windows up = B to C
3. Aggressive acceleration (3000 rpm to 5000 rpm) from stop with windows up = C
4. Smooth acceleration (never exceed 3000 rpm) from stop with windows down = C
5. Aggressive acceleration (3000 rpm to 5000 rpm) from stop with windows down = C
6. Cruising on the highway = B to C
7. Driving in manual shift mode and keeping higher rpm (3000+ rpm) = C
8. Engine Start (warm or cold) = B+ on Warm and C on Cold.
Here's my assessment for my C350 with the Magnaflow X-Pipe.......
1. Idle with windows up = B
2. Smooth acceleration (never exceed 3000 rpm) from stop with windows up = B to C
3. Aggressive acceleration (3000 rpm to 5000 rpm) from stop with windows up = C
4. Smooth acceleration (never exceed 3000 rpm) from stop with windows down = C
5. Aggressive acceleration (3000 rpm to 5000 rpm) from stop with windows down = C
6. Cruising on the highway = B to C
7. Driving in manual shift mode and keeping higher rpm (3000+ rpm) = C
8. Engine Start (warm or cold) = B+ on Warm and C on Cold.
I have a C350 and I agree with you.

I did have them take off the resonator's as this is the only way get the x-pipe on. If you look at my pic, you will notice that i did not have them take off the clamps the meinke mechanic showed me what he was going to do before doing the work and gave his opinion and said this was the better setup for future mods to the exhaust or replacement before the resonator's.
Also, if anyone can answer this; any change on the MPG after doing such a mod? I understand if I take off from stops to hear the sound it's going to go down, but if I were to say drive the way I do now (not so aggressive accelerations and no lead foot on the highway) would there be a difference?
Also, if anyone can answer this; any change on the MPG after doing such a mod? I understand if I take off from stops to hear the sound it's going to go down, but if I were to say drive the way I do now (not so aggressive accelerations and no lead foot on the highway) would there be a difference?
Everything else so far is stock in terms of the exhaust portion or ECU, which my next future mod will be the EuroCharged tune. I did put in drop in air filters by Green, only seemed to make a barely noticeable change if any to my mpg or hp wise. With the X-pipe mod, if your gonna keep on driving the same way then no it shouldn't change at all. But i will give you a warning, in this honeymoon stage; i cannot stop from revving or taking off just to hear that exhaust, haha

I hope this answered your questions, i would love to also add the Meistershaft exhaust later on but its not a cheap mod. I also added the taillight overlays and side marker covers from a local shop and cost me a total of $120 out the door. I will add the link so you can check them out.
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Peace.


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As compared to your installation:


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As compared to your installation:

I dont think that it makes a difference in sound quality wise, have you checked out my sound clips and maybe you can compare it to see if it does. Also as far as performance zippo difference in either set up.



