Can i replace OEM halogen headlights C180 (2013 )With Bi-Xenon OEM of C250 ?
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Can i replace OEM halogen headlights C180 (2013 )With Bi-Xenon OEM of C250 ?
hey 
,i just joined this forums ..so am still a newbie 
guys..i ordered a C180 2013 W204 new facelift , it got ordinary normal halogen headlights..so i wanted to replace them with the OEM headlights of C250..which r bi-xenon & ofcourse work as ILS *intelligent light system* ,called them to figure out if that is possible..they look like they kinda dont have much info about the new model of 2013..& keep replying me weird answers..like..they r not sure if C180 CPU or controlling unit..can be updated for the ILS of C250..to work as bi-xenon headlights with all of the function of ILS..instead of normal halogen lights...later one of my mates..said that the identifying chipset of these new headlights..lies with the xenon device itself inside the headlight back itself of C250 headlights....
-ANY help what can i do to get bi-xenon ILS of C250 instead of normal OEM halogen headlights ? *factory doesnt wanna fix it before delivery as well..as i have already tried that *
-ANY info if those C250 headlights could work on my C180 (2013) ,with some re-programming or so ?
Thanks in advance
,i just joined this forums ..so am still a newbie guys..i ordered a C180 2013 W204 new facelift , it got ordinary normal halogen headlights..so i wanted to replace them with the OEM headlights of C250..which r bi-xenon & ofcourse work as ILS *intelligent light system* ,called them to figure out if that is possible..they look like they kinda dont have much info about the new model of 2013..& keep replying me weird answers..like..they r not sure if C180 CPU or controlling unit..can be updated for the ILS of C250..to work as bi-xenon headlights with all of the function of ILS..instead of normal halogen lights...later one of my mates..said that the identifying chipset of these new headlights..lies with the xenon device itself inside the headlight back itself of C250 headlights....
-ANY help what can i do to get bi-xenon ILS of C250 instead of normal OEM halogen headlights ? *factory doesnt wanna fix it before delivery as well..as i have already tried that *
-ANY info if those C250 headlights could work on my C180 (2013) ,with some re-programming or so ?
Thanks in advance
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You can retrofit projectors to you headlights, but it takes some knowledge of your headlight setup to take it apart and putting it together while keeping the beam pattern aligned.
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I believe the adapter is different
you are MUCH better doing a headlight swap like those sypder ones with projectors or just some random ebay headlight
cost much cheaper and relative close effect
you are MUCH better doing a headlight swap like those sypder ones with projectors or just some random ebay headlight
cost much cheaper and relative close effect
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peugot 307 , 2004
but still all wat i care about is changing them to bi-xenon headlights
..its like i travel to another city..at least once per week..thx for reply =)
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i think this will take the car out of my insurance if i did it outside of the maintenance division locally of benz itself !
thx for the reply =)
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thats the exact headlight which i wanna instead of the halogen OEM ones
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_38.html
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peugot 307 , 2004
thats the headlight which i wanna instead of the halogen one !
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_38.html
Could the car computer software or w.e get updated for the ILS just for the headlights functions ?
changing the adaptor,ecu, anything related for this headlight,could it be changed with the C250 components ?
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_38.html
Could the car computer software or w.e get updated for the ILS just for the headlights functions ?
changing the adaptor,ecu, anything related for this headlight,could it be changed with the C250 components ?
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Hi darky212, I'm looking for the same changement but I think it's not possible... I have the 2012 model (from France, so Europe) with halogens...
I saw the OEM bi-xenon parts on ebay (only optics).
Actually I'm looking especially to operate the DRL LEDs during the night !
And with halogens... Im currently surfing the forum !
I saw the OEM bi-xenon parts on ebay (only optics).
Actually I'm looking especially to operate the DRL LEDs during the night !
And with halogens... Im currently surfing the forum !
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you cant change it
i have 2009 with halogen head lamps and tried to change them with the OEM xenon but the adapters are completely Different (from inner side)and the Technician told me even if i Brings the adapter the harnis don't fit and the SAM is Different 2
i have 2009 with halogen head lamps and tried to change them with the OEM xenon but the adapters are completely Different (from inner side)and the Technician told me even if i Brings the adapter the harnis don't fit and the SAM is Different 2
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Thes a reason the lighting package costs so much - there are significantly more parts on a xenon equipped car to make it work.
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The retrofit is possible & there is a WIS procedure to do just that. You require the lights, front & rear axle sensors, the harness & the auto levelling controller plus labour to fit.
One can fit just the BiX headlights without auto leveling but in many markets this is illegal due to the chance of blinding oncoming motorists. Many on these forums do.
Don't worry about the leadlamp washers etc as this requires a new bumper skin plus flaps, plus, plus.
Bix are usually supplied as part of a kit/package that includes heated lamp washers & mirrors.
One can fit just the BiX headlights without auto leveling but in many markets this is illegal due to the chance of blinding oncoming motorists. Many on these forums do.
Don't worry about the leadlamp washers etc as this requires a new bumper skin plus flaps, plus, plus.
Bix are usually supplied as part of a kit/package that includes heated lamp washers & mirrors.
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The retrofit is possible & there is a WIS procedure to do just that. You require the lights, front & rear axle sensors, the harness & the auto levelling controller plus labour to fit.
One can fit just the BiX headlights without auto leveling but in many markets this is illegal due to the chance of blinding oncoming motorists. Many on these forums do.
One can fit just the BiX headlights without auto leveling but in many markets this is illegal due to the chance of blinding oncoming motorists. Many on these forums do.
Anyway, I bought a set of bi-xenon headlamp assemblies from Germany for $450 including shipping. Next i bought a set of 14 pin wire harness for new headlamps (cut offs from donor car) from Poland, ($40). Two 10 pin male harnesses ($25). Two capacitors ($5), 20 wire seals and 20 wire terminals.
I've made new harness adapters between existing 10 pin to 14 pin including capacitors. Once wires connected properly it's just plug and play. Everything works great so far. It's doable, but involves making new wire harness adapters. At some point, I'll post how to do it...
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I installed oem bi-xenon on my P1 package. Sure, I don't have self leveling (but which cars had this option 5-10 years ago?) once headlamps properly adjusted who cares about self leveling option. Other car makers like, Kia, Hyundai etc. have xenons headlamps without self-leveling and nobody complain.
US, UK, Europe, SA, Aus etc. do not permit Bix without auto levelling. If you get caught you will be fined & get a correction order.
The Japanese & Koreans do have auto leveling with Bix.
Don't confuse projector healights with BiX.
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I retrofitted factory ILS Bixenon headlamps (code 622) recently on my 2013 C350 Coupe. Like Glynn said, you will also need front and rear level sensors, headlamp control unit, multifunction camera (which would require new windshield because of the mounting), and associated wire harnesses.
Since I also got the headlamp washers, I also needed new bumper cover, washer flaps, washer reservoir, headlamp washer pump, and the wiring.
The hard part is finding someone to code the necessary codes into Vedoc, so that you can have all of the control units and features programmed.
Expect to wind up paying over $7000 USD
Since I also got the headlamp washers, I also needed new bumper cover, washer flaps, washer reservoir, headlamp washer pump, and the wiring.
The hard part is finding someone to code the necessary codes into Vedoc, so that you can have all of the control units and features programmed.
Expect to wind up paying over $7000 USD
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Bi-xenon rewiring from 10pin harness to 14 pin harness
Dear Szelas73,
i am trying to adapt the 10pin harness wiring to the 14 pins following your schema. i still have couple of questions here.
1- why there are E1 and E2 on each side ( is the schema for both plugs together)
2- why are you connecting the E1 LWR sig of pin 8 to the E2 LWR sig of pin 2
and NOT to the E1 pin 2 ? or in fact E1 and E2 is the same connector ?
3- i tested eyebrow 2 in the bi-xenon , it lights on pin4 ( but in your schema
you re connecting pin 4 to CODE 494 (what is this)
4- are we taking Ground for the pins 5 and 10 from the same wire of pin 1 in the (10pin harness) or we must have them seperate pin 1 to pin 5 AND pin9 to pin 10
5- you also said that you used capacitors, for what ?
thanks for your help
i am trying to adapt the 10pin harness wiring to the 14 pins following your schema. i still have couple of questions here.
1- why there are E1 and E2 on each side ( is the schema for both plugs together)
2- why are you connecting the E1 LWR sig of pin 8 to the E2 LWR sig of pin 2
and NOT to the E1 pin 2 ? or in fact E1 and E2 is the same connector ?
3- i tested eyebrow 2 in the bi-xenon , it lights on pin4 ( but in your schema
you re connecting pin 4 to CODE 494 (what is this)
4- are we taking Ground for the pins 5 and 10 from the same wire of pin 1 in the (10pin harness) or we must have them seperate pin 1 to pin 5 AND pin9 to pin 10
5- you also said that you used capacitors, for what ?
thanks for your help
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Dear Szelas73,
i am trying to adapt the 10pin harness wiring to the 14 pins following your schema. i still have couple of questions here.
1- why there are E1 and E2 on each side ( is the schema for both plugs together)
2- why are you connecting the E1 LWR sig of pin 8 to the E2 LWR sig of pin 2
and NOT to the E1 pin 2 ? or in fact E1 and E2 is the same connector ?
3- i tested eyebrow 2 in the bi-xenon , it lights on pin4 ( but in your schema
you re connecting pin 4 to CODE 494 (what is this)
4- are we taking Ground for the pins 5 and 10 from the same wire of pin 1 in the (10pin harness) or we must have them seperate pin 1 to pin 5 AND pin9 to pin 10
5- you also said that you used capacitors, for what ?
thanks for your help
i am trying to adapt the 10pin harness wiring to the 14 pins following your schema. i still have couple of questions here.
1- why there are E1 and E2 on each side ( is the schema for both plugs together)
2- why are you connecting the E1 LWR sig of pin 8 to the E2 LWR sig of pin 2
and NOT to the E1 pin 2 ? or in fact E1 and E2 is the same connector ?
3- i tested eyebrow 2 in the bi-xenon , it lights on pin4 ( but in your schema
you re connecting pin 4 to CODE 494 (what is this)
4- are we taking Ground for the pins 5 and 10 from the same wire of pin 1 in the (10pin harness) or we must have them seperate pin 1 to pin 5 AND pin9 to pin 10
5- you also said that you used capacitors, for what ?
thanks for your help
E1 is for right side low beam, E2 is for left low beam. In each headlamp (harness) are two grounds one for eye brows bulbs, turn signal and high beam, other ground go's to ballast. Take a look on attached photo. Should be more accurate what it was. I used capacitors because after conversion new bi-xenon were firing up and working fine with engine off, once I started engine they flickered. So I put capacitors, and that solved a problem. Unfortunately self leveling options it's not working, so you going have to align everything properly. I did adjustment in local car shop, and they works great! On this photo is one side explained how I connected.. hope that's help.
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E1 is for right side low beam, E2 is for left low beam. In each headlamp (harness) are two grounds one for eye brows bulbs, turn signal and high beam, other ground go's to ballast. Take a look on attached photo. Should be more accurate what it was. I used capacitors because after conversion new bi-xenon were firing up and working fine with engine off, once I started engine they flickered. So I put capacitors, and that solved a problem. Unfortunately self leveling options it's not working, so you going have to align everything properly. I did adjustment in local car shop, and they works great! On this photo is one side explained how I connected.. hope that's help.
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more explanation needed please
Dear Sir,
I see in your new schema that you connected your eyebrow 2 to pin number 4, which what i wanted to tell you, in fact one of my 14 pin hardness did not have pin number 4 , so i connect a wire from eyebrow 1 to eyebrow 2 to give them 12 volts both from pin 3.
i see that you put a capacitor in parallel (+) on wire of Low beam and (-) on LWR ground.
one thing i still dont get and intriguing me ! , why your LWR SIG out of pin 8 is turning around to the other side (location of other plug) then coming back to pin 2 ( why you did not do the wire directly straight down to pin 2 ?)
same question for eyebrow 2, why the connection is turning around to the other side then coming back to pin 4 ?
what is code 494 that i see on the schema ?
one more thing, how did you align the xenon after ?? manually , did you have to open the headlight !! or electrically ? please advise.
thanks for your help.
I see in your new schema that you connected your eyebrow 2 to pin number 4, which what i wanted to tell you
, in fact one of my 14 pin hardness did not have pin number 4 , so i connect a wire from eyebrow 1 to eyebrow 2 to give them 12 volts both from pin 3.i see that you put a capacitor in parallel (+) on wire of Low beam and (-) on LWR ground.
one thing i still dont get and intriguing me ! , why your LWR SIG out of pin 8 is turning around to the other side (location of other plug) then coming back to pin 2 ( why you did not do the wire directly straight down to pin 2 ?)
same question for eyebrow 2, why the connection is turning around to the other side then coming back to pin 4 ?
what is code 494 that i see on the schema ?
one more thing, how did you align the xenon after ?? manually , did you have to open the headlight !! or electrically ? please advise.
thanks for your help.
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'11 Merc C300 4M, '15 ML350 4M
Dear Sir,
I see in your new schema that you connected your eyebrow 2 to pin number 4, which what i wanted to tell you, in fact one of my 14 pin hardness did not have pin number 4 , so i connect a wire from eyebrow 1 to eyebrow 2 to give them 12 volts both from pin 3.
i see that you put a capacitor in parallel (+) on wire of Low beam and (-) on LWR ground.
one thing i still dont get and intriguing me ! , why your LWR SIG out of pin 8 is turning around to the other side (location of other plug) then coming back to pin 2 ( why you did not do the wire directly straight down to pin 2 ?)
same question for eyebrow 2, why the connection is turning around to the other side then coming back to pin 4 ?
what is code 494 that i see on the schema ?
I see in your new schema that you connected your eyebrow 2 to pin number 4, which what i wanted to tell you
, in fact one of my 14 pin hardness did not have pin number 4 , so i connect a wire from eyebrow 1 to eyebrow 2 to give them 12 volts both from pin 3.i see that you put a capacitor in parallel (+) on wire of Low beam and (-) on LWR ground.
one thing i still dont get and intriguing me ! , why your LWR SIG out of pin 8 is turning around to the other side (location of other plug) then coming back to pin 2 ( why you did not do the wire directly straight down to pin 2 ?)
same question for eyebrow 2, why the connection is turning around to the other side then coming back to pin 4 ?
what is code 494 that i see on the schema ?
about LWR SIG and eyebrow, don't pay attention to that layout, these parts of layout are original from Mercedes, who knows how and why they did it. 
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Thanks a lot man for your advice and help. i will probably install them tomorrow , and will post photos.
still one question, how did you align the xenon after, as the ILS does not work here ??
manually , did you have to open the headlight !! or electrically ? please advise.
thanks
still one question, how did you align the xenon after, as the ILS does not work here ??
manually , did you have to open the headlight !! or electrically ? please advise.
thanks
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From: Renton, WA
'11 Merc C300 4M, '15 ML350 4M
Thanks a lot man for your advice and help. i will probably install them tomorrow , and will post photos.
still one question, how did you align the xenon after, as the ILS does not work here ??
manually , did you have to open the headlight !! or electrically ? please advise.
thanks
still one question, how did you align the xenon after, as the ILS does not work here ??
manually , did you have to open the headlight !! or electrically ? please advise.
thanks
