new C300 with Engine noise
I went to the dealer and they told me its normal and it comes with is the new direct inject engine they just used on this model.
To me its not a acceptable answer and I wonder any of you hear the same noise? Or if it is normal as dealer said.
Thanks.
Is the noise like a dull ticking noise? Is it louder at the top of the engine, the front, side, etc?
Injector noise is a dull ticking, worse when cold, usually from the top left or right edges where the injectors sit. It can sound a little diesel/idle like. Its also usually most noticeable at idle.
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which let engine noise leak into the cabin. However the part is back ordered in German and there is no ETA. I have been drove a w204 for 2 wks now and don't know how long I will wait.

I went to the dealer and they told me its normal and it comes with is the new direct inject engine they just used on this model.
To me its not a acceptable answer and I wonder any of you hear the same noise? Or if it is normal as dealer said.
Thanks.

Definitely takes some getting use too.
I hope later when we do an exhaust that the sound will change a bit, but the exhaust won't really change how the engine sounds, but just hope to make it a bit more aggressive sounding while driving. The C400 definitely had a smoother engine sound.
I have very similar noise... I was just back from the dealership/service and they said it is the high pressure fuel pump and they insisted that it is normal... Pretty annoying though...
When I took my C300 4MATIC into my dealer to see about several small items, the service foreman and I took the car out on the local expressway to check on wind noise. To the immense credit of my dealer, the foreman heard a faint rattle in the engine. I had heard it only when starting cold. The car had to have the PISTONS replaced! I lost the use of it from Nov. 12 until Dec. 8. (almost a month). The problem is actually a manufacturing defect in the wrist pins. If left unrepaired, it causes premature wear in the cylinder walls.
MASSC300 has found a reference to the MB tech bulletin for this, but the bulletin itself is behind various paywalls. The summary explains the problem. The bulletin is:
NHTSA ID #10058545
Date Announced: JULY 01 2015
Summary: XENTRY (DAIMLER): DUE TO UNFAVORABLE TOLERANCE OF PISTON WRIST PIN, RESULTING IN KNOCKING, CLATTERING/RATTLING NOISES, CAUSING AN ENLARGE END FLOAT CONNECTING ROD IN PISTON, FROM CRANK ASSEMBLY OF ENGINE WHEN COLD.
[Note added 01-03-15: see the comment by deafcon at https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...il#post6612605. So that readers do not have go to deafcon's comment, here is the operative sentence, "Any M274 built at the Infiniti plant in Dechard before serial number ~43000, or built in Germany before roughly serial ~400000 could develop the problem. New wrist pins went into production engines starting April 20th.]
As of Nov. 12, I found two other owners reporting this in MBWorld. (They identified their problem as "wrist pins.") Now there are more. You mentioned two threads where similar problems are reported:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ine-noise.html (the present thread) and
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...e-startup.html
In addition to these two MBWorld threads, there are other reports at
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...your-w205.html and
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...-rattling.html
In addition to the new, 2-liter I4 of the U.S. C300, the engines of following vehicles are also covered in this TSB. The models are: the 2015 Mercedes Benz C180, 2015 Mercedes Benz C200, 2015 Mercedes Benz C220, 2014 Mercedes Benz C250, 2015 Mercedes Benz C250, 2014 Mercedes Benz C300, and 2015 Mercedes Benz C400. I am puzzled why those engines share this defect. The engines of the 2014 Mercedes Benz C300 and the 2015 Mercedes Benz C400 are not new designs. Those models have the older, 3-liter V6 engine. I am not familiar with the engines of the other models.
I hope this does not become as big a problem for MB as The Dreaded Balance Shaft Gear problem that affected certain V6 and V8 engines into MY 2007. My previous 2007 C280 was part of that problem. However, I did not get notice that I was a member of the class-action lawsuit against MBUSA until after I had traded in the car on my current MB.
Last edited by gfmohn; Jan 3, 2016 at 08:41 PM. Reason: Correction of the date before which 2015 C300 engines may be defective
When I took my C300 4MATIC into my dealer to see about several small items, the service foreman and I took the car out on the local expressway to check on wind noise. To the immense credit of my dealer, the foreman heard a faint rattle in the engine. I had heard it only when starting cold. The car had to have the PISTONS replaced! I lost the use of it from Nov. 12 until Dec. 8. (almost a month). The problem is actually a manufacturing defect in the wrist pins. If left unrepaired, it causes premature wear in the cylinder walls.
MASSC300 has found a reference to the MB tech bulletin for this, but the bulletin itself is behind various paywalls. The summary explains the problem. The bulletin is:
NHTSA ID #10058545
Date Announced: JULY 01 2015
Summary: XENTRY (DAIMLER): DUE TO UNFAVORABLE TOLERANCE OF PISTON WRIST PIN, RESULTING IN KNOCKING, CLATTERING/RATTLING NOISES, CAUSING AN ENLARGE END FLOAT CONNECTING ROD IN PISTON, FROM CRANK ASSEMBLY OF ENGINE WHEN COLD.
As of Nov. 12, I found two other owners reporting this in MBWorld. (They identified their problem as "wrist pins.") Now there are more. You mentioned two threads where similar problems are reported:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ine-noise.html (the present thread) and
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...e-startup.html
In addition to these two MBWorld threads, there are other reports at
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...your-w205.html and
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...-rattling.html
In addition to the new, 2-liter I4 of the U.S. C300, the engines of following vehicles are also covered in this TSB. The models are: the 2015 Mercedes Benz C180, 2015 Mercedes Benz C200, 2015 Mercedes Benz C220, 2014 Mercedes Benz C250, 2015 Mercedes Benz C250, 2014 Mercedes Benz C300, and 2015 Mercedes Benz C400. I am puzzled why those engines share this defect. The engines of the 2014 Mercedes Benz C300 and the 2015 Mercedes Benz C400 are not new designs. Those models have the older, 3-liter V6 engine. I am not familiar with the engines of the other models.
I hope this does not become as big a problem for MB as The Dreaded Balance Shaft Gear problem that affected certain V6 and V8 engines into MY 2007. My previous 2007 C280 was part of that problem. However, I did not get notice that I was a member of the class-action lawsuit against MBUSA until after I had traded in the car on my current MB.
When I took my C300 4MATIC into my dealer to see about several small items, the service foreman and I took the car out on the local expressway to check on wind noise. To the immense credit of my dealer, the foreman heard a faint rattle in the engine. I had heard it only when starting cold. The car had to have the PISTONS replaced! I lost the use of it from Nov. 12 until Dec. 8. (almost a month). The problem is actually a manufacturing defect in the wrist pins. If left unrepaired, it causes premature wear in the cylinder walls.
MASSC300 has found a reference to the MB tech bulletin for this, but the bulletin itself is behind various paywalls. The summary explains the problem. The bulletin is:
NHTSA ID #10058545
Date Announced: JULY 01 2015
Summary: XENTRY (DAIMLER): DUE TO UNFAVORABLE TOLERANCE OF PISTON WRIST PIN, RESULTING IN KNOCKING, CLATTERING/RATTLING NOISES, CAUSING AN ENLARGE END FLOAT CONNECTING ROD IN PISTON, FROM CRANK ASSEMBLY OF ENGINE WHEN COLD.
As of Nov. 12, I found two other owners reporting this in MBWorld. (They identified their problem as "wrist pins.") Now there are more. You mentioned two threads where similar problems are reported:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ine-noise.html (the present thread) and
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...e-startup.html
In addition to these two MBWorld threads, there are other reports at
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...your-w205.html and
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...-rattling.html
In addition to the new, 2-liter I4 of the U.S. C300, the engines of following vehicles are also covered in this TSB. The models are: the 2015 Mercedes Benz C180, 2015 Mercedes Benz C200, 2015 Mercedes Benz C220, 2014 Mercedes Benz C250, 2015 Mercedes Benz C250, 2014 Mercedes Benz C300, and 2015 Mercedes Benz C400. I am puzzled why those engines share this defect. The engines of the 2014 Mercedes Benz C300 and the 2015 Mercedes Benz C400 are not new designs. Those models have the older, 3-liter V6 engine. I am not familiar with the engines of the other models.
I hope this does not become as big a problem for MB as The Dreaded Balance Shaft Gear problem that affected certain V6 and V8 engines into MY 2007. My previous 2007 C280 was part of that problem. However, I did not get notice that I was a member of the class-action lawsuit against MBUSA until after I had traded in the car on my current MB.
I have had 3 C3000 cars this past year. 2 were defective and MB replaced them. MB knows they have bad engines and are trying to avoid a recall. This in my opinion is criminal. My local dealer has done over 30 engine overhauls due to the wrist pin issue. I would not buy a C300 and will never buy a MB after this experience. MB USA was the worst part of this problem. They treat you like an idiot and are insulting to say the least. I own 2 MB C300 vehicles and can not wait to trade them in and never buy another MB product.
There should be a recall. I would suggest you listen to your engine at cold start up. You will hear the loud noise when you hit the gas and then let off. It goes away soon after warm up but I wonder what damage is being done to the piston side walls and what will happen later to the motor. Probably burn some serious oil down the road.
My dealer did the best they could but they are at the mercy of MB USA and we were all treated terribly by MB USA.
I have owned many MB vehicles but never again. They are covering up a serious problem.
I can't lemon this car either, as it was a CPO. It had only 42 miles on it when purchased, so was in essence a brand new CPO.
Did the dealer and mbusa/Mercedes Canada and etc offer you anything for your troubles?
With that said, from my end, I kind of feel like they should. I am not very happy that I am basically getting a partial engine rebuild on an 11 month old car with under 15K miles on it. From my mechanical knowledge, they have to at minimum pull the head and the oil pan to get to the connecting rods on the crank shaft. Then new pistons, rings, connecting rods get installed. What if there is cylinder wall damage? Are they going to just hone them while the motor is in the car? I don't think they will pull the motor for this? And then reassembly of the engine, hoping that the technician does everything 100% correct. Not happy at all.
It's great that MB pushed itself to create these beautifully complex and richly appointed interiors, but they neglected the engineering basics and the QC out of Alabama seems uncharacteristically un Benz like.







