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When you see AMG on the trunk lid, you know it's better than a regular MB. When you see 2 numerical digits instead of 3, you know it's a top tier MB and not an average run of the mill family style MB.
Now, I don't really buy into either of the above, but I'm making a point. Both are valid (or were, at least) to many people. Everything you're saying can easily be countered in this regard.
Stop being so desperate to convince yourself (or others) one version is going to be perceived as better than the other simply because it's the one you have.
no freaking normal person going to compare c class to amg or compare amg to c class. they compare it to the same class. that is like saying my 5th grade kid is smarter than your kid in 4th grade. you supposed to be smarter at 5th grade compare to someone at 4th grade.
stop being offended that you can't afford c63 and want people to think your driving amg when you only have a c450. haha
no freaking normal person going to compare c class to amg or compare amg to c class. they compare it to the same class. that is like saying my 5th grade kid is smarter than your kid in 4th grade. you supposed to be smarter at 5th grade compare to someone at 4th grade.
stop being offended that you can't afford c63 and want people to think your driving amg when you only have a c450. haha
A "freaking normal person" has no idea what the difference is between an AMG and a normal Mercedes...
A "freaking normal person" has no idea what the difference is between an AMG and a normal Mercedes...
Agreed. "Normal" people dont know and dont care. I think those who pay a little bit of attention would look at C43 as being an awesome C class, more so than they would think of it as poor man's C63.
A "freaking normal person" has no idea what the difference is between an AMG and a normal Mercedes...
^^^^^ This...totally agree. Personally I've never cared one bit what others might be thinking about the name badge on my car. I think it's hilarious that people are wasting energy and brain cycles worrying about how others are perceiving the car they drive.
What *does* concern me about the name change is whether the car will gain any other typical "true AMG" perks (outside of the hand-built engine). These being launch control, ability to turn off traction control completely, free AMG driving school course, etc. If this happens, yet everything stays the same including price, then I will definitely feel a little cheated having bought early.
But if it's just a badge change and nothing more, then I don't mind being in the minority of exclusive C450 owners.
This is funny. Some of you seem to care a little too much about how cool you think you are based solely by what badge is on the back of your car.
Why don't you guys just remove the 0 from the back of your C450. Bam! Now you've got a C45. That is like so much cooler than a C43.
Being a C450 owner for 4months already, I can tell you that 99.9% of people on the road cant tell wtf I'm driving they just think its another mercedes and other enthusiasts on the road would most likely think its just your plain mom and pop C class, that is, until I drop to the 3rd gear and hear me leave them in the dust. I like the exclusiveness of owning a C450, I have only two other than mine on the road, none in the city I'm currently living in. I would not care what they call it in MY2017 however if they do make any mechanical enhancements such as an upgraded cooling system or bigger turbos or even a new and quicker tranny, then I will be royally pissed and will feel like a stupid guinea pig for taking quite possible one of the first 10 C450s delivered in the US (Aug 2015 build). And if its just an upgraded ECU tune with all the same mechanics of the car then I sure expect a free upgraded flash to my car at the dealer.
Hello all,
Do not post much but lurk around. The debate over badges has had me laughing a few times! I debadge all of my cars, "C450" was gone within a few days. Will wait and see what the C43 holds, I agree the race start and a few AMG specific features would be nice (no not the hand built engine). Ever read your owners manual and see the stuff labeled for AMG vehicles? Yeah, those. If the C43 turns out significantly different (I do not think it will) I will just unload mine and get it and remove the badges..
What I would like to see from Merc is better interior build quality, yes it is pretty and comfy but the squeaks and rattles, wow. This is my 7th Merc and this one makes more noise than all of the other 6 combined, by 2-3x. Both seat belt adjusters, info screen, instrument binnacle and deep in the center console. This is my commuter so I only drive it about 25 miles a day, occasionally on other errands, only 2100 miles on it. All paved of course.
Got a call from my dealer today. While the car is still showing a production date of 1/25, the build actually started on 1/15. They'll let me know when it is on the truck, but they are figuring it will be here mid to late next week. Wohoo! For those tracking orders, I'm in the US and Ordered 1st week of Dec.
Fully agree with tmoney and I think we should stop wasting our time and energy in talking about number and badges.
People are dying hungry, others dream to buy a Dacia and we have one of the best cars made in the last decades in what I call segment 3 = medium size sedan. So let's stop talking about 450, 43 and 76554...
Personally I bought a superb interior, a solid German car, 500+ of torque, a lot of hp, amazing speakers sound, the best pano sunroof I've never seen in the segment, the exact exhaust sound I've ever dreamt of (the best is being jags or Maserati but I don't see myself going to buy a piece of bread with such sound), many funny gadgets, a quasi unique sexy front grill, a lot of interior space, hands free stuff, a crazily nice steering wheel etc etc.... I don't care about the number on the *** of the car what I care for is that I love the car and enjoy every second driving it.
I look forward for sunny days (we have -4 degrees C these days...) to open all windows and roof and enjoy the engine music.
Comig back to more serious things, I have a question : I configured thenindividual mode with sport+ engine management, sport steering, comfort suspension and comfort airflow ( I don't know why this last setting exists...) and I don't understand why the exhaust sound is different and less expressive than in sport+ mode.... Does the sound only become sporty in sport+ mode??
Got a call from my dealer today. While the car is still showing a production date of 1/25, the build actually started on 1/15. They'll let me know when it is on the truck, but they are figuring it will be here mid to late next week. Wohoo! For those tracking orders, I'm in the US and Ordered 1st week of Dec.
i think i going to email Tim from mercedescla forum for an update on my c450.
last week, i texted my saleman for an update, he texted back and said "Everything is fine and on schedule. Once is build i'll reach out to you".
what the F@#$ is that? that didnt tell me anything !
i ordered on Dec 15, 2015.
i think i going to email Tim from mercedescla forum for an update on my c450.
last week, i texted my saleman for an update, he texted back and said "Everything is fine and on schedule. Once is build i'll reach out to you".
what the F@#$ is that? that didnt tell me anything !
i ordered on Dec 15, 2015.
Be patient bro...I ordered in Oct and production started around the same time as yours.
i think i going to email Tim from mercedescla forum for an update on my c450.
last week, i texted my saleman for an update, he texted back and said "Everything is fine and on schedule. Once is build i'll reach out to you".
what the F@#$ is that? that didnt tell me anything !
i ordered on Dec 15, 2015.
If it makes you feel any better I ordered mine May 2015 and received it end of Sept
Brave move going with the white interior. But you have cooled seats!!!??? I'm soool jealous, that was one feature I was looking forward. My heart cracked when I found out MB didnt include it in the first orders of the C450
Brave move going with the white interior. But you have cooled seats!!!??? I'm soool jealous, that was one feature I was looking forward. My heart cracked when I found out MB didnt include it in the first orders of the C450
Not just the first orders, still strangely not available in the US at all. Sigh...
We don't get the cool Wagon version either, but at least that makes sense for our market. The lack of ventilated seats is still baffling.
Brave move going with the white interior. But you have cooled seats!!!??? I'm soool jealous, that was one feature I was looking forward. My heart cracked when I found out MB didnt include it in the first orders of the C450
Why is that interior a brave move? Do you just mean on a cleanliness standpoint?
And BMWMB71, are those seats the Crystal Grey Leather? Or something else?
2018 E63S: Former cars 2016 C450, 2013 C350, 2009 C300
Just got confirmation from oe today will be sending my Ecu back for stage 2 once the car gets back from GTHAUS with the exhaust system installed can't wait to c what a tuned c450 can do!
BRABUS further expands the world’s most extensive range of engine tuning for Mercedes- Benz automobiles with the new BRABUS PowerXtra B30-410 performance upgrade for the Mercedes C 450 4MATIC.
To this end, BRABUS integrates the new plug-and-play tuning module into the engine electronics of the three-liter twin-turbo V6 gasoline engine. The auxiliary control unit provides the engine with newly calibrated mapping for injection and ignition while moderately increasing the boost pressure. After the installation, the engine pumps out an extra 32 kW / 43 HP (43 bhp) of power and puts an equally effective 50 Nm (37 lb-ft) of additional torque on tap.
302 kW / 410 HP (405 bhp) at 6,100 rpm and a peak torque of 570 Nm (420 lb-ft) at a low 3,700 rpm make the all-wheel-drive C-Class even more dynamic. The sedan equipped with BRABUS PowerXtra B30-410 upgrade accelerates from zero to 100 km/h (62 mph) in just 4.6 seconds. In conjunction with the elimination of the electronic speed limit included in the performance upgrade, the top speed increases from 250 auf 280 km/h (155 to 174 mph).
Even more significant than the improved performance is the even more superior sensation at the wheel in everyday driving resulting from the perfect interplay between the tuned six-cylinder and the seven-speed automatic transmission. The added power across the entire engine rev range is not only reflected in even more agile driving dynamics, but when employing a comparable driving style also in further reduced fuel consumption thanks to the further optimized in-gear acceleration.
The performance kit for the C 450 4MATIC is of course backed by the exemplary BRABUS Tuning Warranty of three years, up to 100,000 kilometers / 62,000 miles (see BRABUS Warranty Terms and Conditions, updated July 2013). Technology partner MOTUL supplies the perfect high-performance lubricants for the entire powertrain.
For further enhanced driving fun and more striking looks at the rear, BRABUS recommends the installation of the BRABUS quad sport exhaust aft of the production catalysts. The exhaust has four tailpipes and features an electronically controlled system of butterfly valves activated from the cockpit. In the “Coming Home” default setting, the C 450 is even more subdued than with the stock exhaust. In contrast, with the butterfly valves open, the six- cylinder twin-turbo sounds markedly sporty and powerful.
Of course, BRABUS offers not only powerful and highly resilient engine tuning for the Mercedes 4x4. The BRABUS designers developed tailor-made aerodynamic-enhancement components manufactured from high-grade PUR in OEM quality to give the car an even sportier appearance.
The BRABUS front spoiler attaches to the production bumper. Its central spoiler blade and the outer sections shaped like flaps from motor racing lend the vehicle an even more distinctive front. In addition, the component also reduces lift on the front axle, which further optimizes handling stability at high rates of speed.
The rear end is refined with the BRABUS rear diffuser, which provides the perfect backdrop for the four chrome-plated tailpipes of the BRABUS stainless-steel sport exhaust. The C 450 Sedan can be upgraded additionally with the BRABUS rear spoiler, which also comes in a variant made from naked carbon.
The BRABUS Monoblock S wheels, developed especially for the 4MATIC variant with a diameter of 19 inches, also play a crucial role in the thrilling BRABUS look. The alloy wheels feature five double spokes extending all the way to the outer flange. They are mounted in size 7.5Jx19 at the front and in size 8.5Jx19 on the rear axle. BRABUS selected tires of sizes 225/40 ZR 19 and 255/35 ZR 19 as optimal.
The interior of the C 450 4MATIC can also be customized to owner preferences in every detail. The product range offers a host of custom accessories such as aluminum pedals, high-quality floor mats or scuff plates with backlit BRABUS logo. The exclusive BRABUS fine leather interior appointments are made from especially soft and breathable leather and Alcantara. Like the especially classy BRABUS wood trim sets or the markedly sporty BRABUS carbon trim sets, they can be manufactured in a virtually endless variety of colors.
Sighhh.....
Dealer called. System still showing a build date of Jan 25, however, the car just rolled off the truck on their lot. I'm in the DC/Northern Virginia area where it just started snowing and won't stop until 18-30 inches are on the ground. Won't get to even see the car until next week sometime.
At least I don't have to make room for it yet in the snow....
01-19-2016, 09:39 PM
