BeemerToBenz

Hilarious - well said, Mike.

gtron8

LOL

Mike5215

Every car purchase comes with an opportunity cost... The cars you didn't get but could have. I usually have a hefty dose of buyers remorse, every time. Yet by the time I trade it in a few years later I have to fight not to tear up a little as I'm abandoning it.

Surprisingly, and maybe it's because I built it, and waited for it, me and the C have hit it off right out of the gate. No regrets at all. I fully expected to be kicking myself for giving up my gorgeous S550 but nope. I still think the S was a more impressive looking car but I never really settled in with that car. But hey...








Hey, how about some mods to increase the enjoyment of your C450 driving experience? Two mods that give me the most bang for the buck are cool new wheels (not an option for the C450 yet) and a ball out audio system. I can point you in the right direction on the audio.

cenzo86

Wow. I just drove home and a trip that should have taken and hour took a whole lot less. I was driving way too fast in less than ideal conditions. ****. I mean what an incredible car. Wow. I totally feel like I was driving very irresponsibly. The worst. It felt so strong. Exceptional. So inspiring.
Sorry, rambling. I don't think this post ever had a purpose.

BeemerToBenz

Yep, you're right Mike, I have had that feeling that a car 'becomes' connected with you by the time you turn it in. With this latest purchase though, I had so many specific wants and resulting compromises that the c450 represents a conflicting mix of pleased and not fully awed. As you say, I think some mods may be the ticket and will make the car feel individual and special.

As for wheels, I've seen some of the dialogue between you and Jim - in a nutshell, what is the issue with finding wheels for the c450? Is it the nature of the suspension fitment?

Mike5215

The car essentially got the suspension set up of the C63 but didn't get the widened fenders, so anything wider than an 8" rim up front either has suspension clearance issues or, if you clear the suspension, fender clearance issues, and nobody is making 8" wheels aftermarket.

Arthrodesis

Sat in a 2017 c300 coupe and found this. Nothing about performance exhaust was listed on the invoice though.

z28lt1

Yes, I don't think it is available on the C300 no matter what.

Although the picture does display what might be my one pet peeve with MB and this car - the blanks for the buttons. I know many manufacturers do it, and it saves cost, but a few get it right. MB has them in the center, next to the steering wheel, and in the C450, since you can't get vented seats, there as well Too many blanks.

Agingracefully

I first heard about the C43 replacing the C450'last night and was really hacked because I had an order for a 450'to be delivered in 3 weeks. I just got back from my dealer with the order cancelled and a C43 specked and a confirmed delivery date in the second week of August. Thanks to these forums for the heads-up and saving me from a bad surprise. The 450 is great, but who wouldn't take the 43 and 9speed if they had a choice?

tivoboy

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tan70ri

Maybe piece doesn't matter to you, but did you get any pricing or commitment from the dealer to honor your current deal? Threads from yesterday were well written about the significant cost difference the 43 AMG is likely to be (MSRP, ELW, insurance, etc.). For me I'd rather take the 16.5% discount on the C450 and use it to buy the 7/75k ELW, ECU tuning, and a few years of gas. A new transmission and some badging that can be bought on eBay isn't worth $10k to me.

Agingracefully

My dealer guaranteed no price increase given the fact that they were not up to speed on the demise of the 450, but I purchase at least one car from them annually. The trains is a big deal, but badging is of no importance to me. The car will receive a Renntech Ecu on arrival. You have to weigh what is important to you, for example, lots of people posting are looking for more or larger badges and louder exhaust with no noticeable performance improvement, w hike I am not. If you're u are being offered a discount of 16.5% to take a 450, that may be a good trade-off Thanks!

rustycruiser

Wonder what that button is for. Here is what the C63 exhaust button looks like:

rustycruiser

OK, found it in th coupe manual on MBUSA site. That button manually extends the retractable set belt extenders.

iluvdaBenz

So I have been going through the break in process as specified in the user manual driving only in E or C mode. But I have been reading the car learns or adapts to your driving style. Is there a concern that after the 1000-mile break in, the car would have adapted to the gentle driving style and will not have the burble, crackle sound and nice aggressive gear shifting when I finally start driving more aggressively in S and S+ mode?

gtron8

I don't know 100% but I can tell you that every car I've ever owned with an ECU that adapts to driving style does so very quickly. If your car is feeling sluggish, drive very aggressively for a short time and I'm willing to bet that it will adapt to your current aggressive driving style.

It's certainly never been permanent. As a matter a fact, some people have even said it's as little 40 presses of the gas peddle. I have no idea if that is true either because I feel like it's more advanced than that but still worth noting.

tmoneyC450amg

I say just drive it the way you want. Just don't exceed 4500rpm or 90mph for the first 1000 miles.

Newzchspy

Does anyone reliably know exactly what changes the 2017 C43 are getting from the "old" C450??? I've heard trans (2 more gears) , exhaust , colors and some other things, BUT no one has actually confirmed any of this??

z28lt1

The order guide is out (and posted in a couple of threads) so we have most of the facts. Things like to details of what the optional exhaust is, is still under some speculation.

Thefiverivers

It has all been confirmed by MB. Go here to read up:

https://www.mercedes-amg.com/latest....d=20160224_c43

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/future..._AMG_C43_Coupe

And you can check out the DOG's in the 450/43 thread, it has all the details.

petvan

One more tint question guys ;-)

Local tint guy (I've spoke to a few) says that often with MB, when tinting some water seeps into the door panel and may impact the the body control module. For this reason, they have you sign a waiver to waive them of any responsibility for damage to this module.

Does this sound right and is there truly stuff in the door susceptible to water damage that tinting might risk?

Don't want a 1500 dollar bill post the tint ;-)

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z28lt1

Don't know about the C class specifically, but I have heard of cases where cars had electrical problems after tinting due to water (mostly in BMWs).

That said, I would find another shop. Signing a waiver is giving them a license to be careless. Are they removing the door panels? If they remove the door panes, and cover everything with towels/plastic, etc... hard to see how they can't carefully do it properly.

Some tinters will remove panels, some won't, and some only do it when needed for a proper job.

petvan

Interesting. First guy I called said he won't touch AMG because of complexity in the door panel and its just not worth it for him. I mentioned that here and folks said run from anyone who takes the panel off.

Now it would seem if there are electronics in the door to be concerned with, taking the panel off would appear prudent.

MB wants 799 to do this ;-) I really can't stomach that as a premium tint up here is most 299.

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alexasa

iTrader: (1)

I usually prefer to have the dealer do tint, they usually do a better job - can fix anything they break and it isn't too pricey.

I have heard of water problems on the current platform of vehicle I own (B8 S4), but it's the AMP that can short out, IIRC.

z28lt1

Sorry, don't mean to confuse you. There are definitely cons to taking off the door panels, they may break a tab or introduce a rattle, etc....I think that is why some say to stay away from those that do. Particularly in some cars where you can get the tint below the line without removing the panel, it doesn't always make sense to do. But if water is a concern (and again, I have no idea if it is a real concern on the W205) but I believe if it is, that is the best way to protect the electronics.

I would find a good shop that doesn't require a waiver, and let them make their own decision on approach (panel on or off).

I did not do our W205, but did do one of the other vehicles and they did not remove the door panel, but no one had any worries about them messing up electronics.