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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by autopal
Here are my rims. I bought them at Kaltire for $275 each, I don't remember how much I paid for the tires
What brand are those?

I hope they are reputable, because you can get some decent 18 inch wheels in that price range.
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 04:39 PM
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What brand are those?

I hope they are reputable, because you can get some decent 18 inch wheels in that price range.
https://www.braelin.ca

They are from this company
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by autopal
Here are my rims. I bought them at Kaltire for $275 each, I don't remember how much I paid for the tires
Awesome, thank you so much! I'll visit my local kaltire and see if they have something similar that will fit.
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 09:55 PM
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C43 is now on MBUSA.com!

edit: standard with halogen headlights ... are you effing kidding me?

ALSO: GLE 43 SUV is now on website

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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 08:11 AM
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Also new to MBUSA site is the 2017 CLA. They now offer a more aggressive sport body package that looks like the C63 front clip, plus all of the bumper canards. On the c43 page they offer the AMG body enhancements. Woo spensive!
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by topsider
C43 is now on MBUSA.com!

edit: standard with halogen headlights ... are you effing kidding me?

ALSO: GLE 43 SUV is now on website
I definitely thought they were going to make the upgraded lights standard for the c43...

MB is behind on that.
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cenzo86
Also new to MBUSA site is the 2017 CLA. They now offer a more aggressive sport body package that looks like the C63 front clip, plus all of the bumper canards. On the c43 page they offer the AMG body enhancements. Woo spensive!
yeah i saw that on there a couple weeks ago, i like the flicks on the CLA, shouldve made that an option though versus standard, kind of unnecessary (as much as i hate to admit)

I'd really love to see what the 9-speed is like in the C-Class. In the 2017 E-Class loaner i have right now it is smooth as hell, zero jerky shifts and fires of the shifts almost as fast as the DSG's i've had in previous cars

Also surprised the coeeficient of drag is .32 for the C43, so that means its the same for my car because same body.. thats not great, same as it was on my GTI which is a pretty blunt design.

EDIt: GLE 43 SUV has been taken down from MBUSA

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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 11:26 AM
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Also surprised the coeeficient of drag is .32 for the C43...
I don't know where you found that number from, but multiple sites has the W205 C Class drag coefficient pegged at 0.24...
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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I don't know where you found that number from, but multiple sites has the W205 C Class drag coefficient pegged at 0.24...



I have seen low cD's for the super eco versions of the C-class, but thats it

For non amg-sport pack equipped cars, the cD is .30


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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 12:01 PM
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"Optionally fitted with the Airmatic pneumatic suspension for the first time, the new C-Class will offer unprecedented comfort and road-holding, while the up to 100 kg (220 pounds) lower weight and the drag coefficient of up to 0.23 will make it the leader in its segment."

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...ery-73211.html

0.26 and 0.27...

http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Merc...ew/C_W205.html

0.24...

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...s-benz-c-class

0.24...

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mer...e-new-c-class/
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 01:53 PM
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"Optionally fitted with the Airmatic pneumatic suspension for the first time, the new C-Class will offer unprecedented comfort and road-holding, while the up to 100 kg (220 pounds) lower weight and the drag coefficient of up to 0.23 will make it the leader in its segment."

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/20...ery-73211.html

0.26 and 0.27...

http://www.autozine.org/Archive/Merc...ew/C_W205.html

0.24...

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...s-benz-c-class

0.24...

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mer...e-new-c-class/
I saw those too, but when they do the inital press drives arent they driving the euro spec cars? big difference if thats the case. when the CLA came out it was "the most aerodynamic production car in the world" .. but not in America, since the euro models came with additional underbody aero treatments
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 03:02 PM
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Guys, can I or should I be rotating my tires on a staggered setup? I've read differing opinions...

I have the Continental ContiSportContact 5 SSR (summer only with the 19" AMG wheel package). Based on my research, the tire is NOT directional but is also not symmetrical either. Not sure what the symmetrical part has to do with anything on rotation.

Should I be rotating side to side or not?
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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Guys, can I or should I be rotating my tires on a staggered setup? I've read differing opinions...

I have the Continental ContiSportContact 5 SSR (summer only with the 19" AMG wheel package). Based on my research, the tire is NOT directional but is also not symmetrical either. Not sure what the symmetrical part has to do with anything on rotation.

Should I be rotating side to side or not?
side to side can create noisy tires. Also, there is no point in doing side to side i.e. with the fronts, the outside edge will still be on the outside on the other side.
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Old Sep 29, 2016 | 02:23 PM
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Gone are the ala carte options and add-ons for the C450/43. It does suck that the Lighting Pkg is only included in the P4 option which is priced over $7k...
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Old Sep 29, 2016 | 06:04 PM
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So.. after 3 weeks of owning the thing.. I had to take it to the shop and get felt tape in the rear pass door and gauge instrument cluster (rattling noises).. also had an update on the touch pad.. Always good to have a new car with warranty..
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Old Sep 29, 2016 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg
Gone are the ala carte options and add-ons for the C450/43. It does suck that the Lighting Pkg is only included in the P4 option which is priced over $7k...
Yea and that package includes options I don't need (fragrance, hands free {bad for winter i.e. the ice jams})
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 12:06 PM
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Ugh - I let my wife drive the car for one day last Friday... Dealer wants $608 (CDN) to replace... POS tires... This shouldn't happen over small bumps...

Now, should I get Michelin PSS on all four corners for $1500... thing is I need to return lease with runflats... unless I decide to buy out the lease and sell it myself - in that case I don`t need to do that...
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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That's a common rupture point for the OEM run flats. I'd recommend the Michelins. Big improvement in ride and feel, and unlikely to suffer sidewall rupture.
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nvestr

Ugh - I let my wife drive the car for one day last Friday...
That was your first mistake...

Dealer wants $608 (CDN) to replace... POS tires... This shouldn't happen over small bumps...
It doesn't...your wife hit a doozy. I've put a total of 8,000 miles on stock 19" runflat tires...hit some good potholes...and NEVER split a sidewall.

Now, should I get Michelin PSS on all four corners for $1500... thing is I need to return lease with runflats... unless I decide to buy out the lease and sell it myself - in that case I don`t need to do that...
For a lease...IMO...I'd pay the $600 for replacement run flats since you have to return the car with them.
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Originally Posted by MASSC450
That was your first mistake...

It doesn't...your wife hit a doozy. I've put a total of 8,000 miles on stock 19" runflat tires...hit some good potholes...and NEVER split a sidewall.


For a lease...IMO...I'd pay the $600 for replacement run flats since you have to return the car with them.

Man, you really are a puppet.
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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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Man, you really are a puppet.
To who...Mercedes or run flat tires in general? I think not Sparky.

Say he does pony up the money for non-run flat tires...his lease ends...and he decides not to purchase. What's he going to do with 4 used non-run flat tires after he surrenders his lease...because the dealership will want run flats on the car when he turns it in.

Then there's the issue what will he do for a spare if he installs non-run flat tires...at the least he will have to carry a can of sensor safe Fix-a-Flat in his car...which won't do **** for a sidewall tear.

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Well firstly, I believe the Continentals are known for being very oversensitive to sidewall tears - much more common than the Pirelli run-flats and WAAY more than non runflats.

As for the lease, my OEM tires won`t last until lease return anyway, so a new set has to be purchased. I was thinking of putting the Conti`s aside and using the MPSS's until close to lease return. At that point, if I decide to return, I can purchase a replacement tire then and put the run-flats back on... If I decide not to return, I can sell the car without runflats (with a disclaimer to the buyer!).

If I get a flat, I'll call roadside assistance and carry Fix-a-Flat with me as well... Best option I can think of... Thoughts?

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Old Oct 4, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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If I get a flat, I'll call roadside assistance and carry Fix-a-Flat with me as well... Best option I can think of... Thoughts?
You don't plan on running your 19" wheels/tires during the Winter up there in Canada, do you? I hope not.

Why don't you just pick up a set of 18" AMG take offs on ebay for about $1,500? At least they will have all seasons on them...plus they're run flats so you don't have to worry about a spare or Fix-a-Flat. The 18" tires are much less likely to experience a sidewall tear hitting a bump or pot hole, they give a smoother ride than the 19" wheel/tires, and you will have a easier time selling the stock Mercedes 18" AMG wheels compared to some cheap aftermarket wheel set up.

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Originally Posted by MASSC450
To who...Mercedes or run flat tires in general? I think not Sparky.

Say he does pony up the money for non-run flat tires...his lease ends...and he decides not to purchase. What's he going to do with 4 used non-run flat tires after he surrenders his lease...because the dealership will want run flats on the car when he turns it in.

Then there's the issue what will he do for a spare if he installs non-run flat tires...at the least he will have to carry a can of sensor safe Fix-a-Flat in his car...which won't do **** for a sidewall tear.

your thought process is so linear. you are only validating my point.

Not worth the time.
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You don't plan on running your 19" wheels/tires during the Winter up there in Canada, do you? I hope not.

Why don't you just pick up a set of 18" AMG take offs on ebay for about $1,500? At least they will have all seasons on them...plus they're run flats so you don't have to worry about a spare or Fix-a-Flat. The 18" tires are much less likely to experience a sidewall tear hitting a bump or pot hole, they give a smoother ride than the 19" wheel/tires, and you will have a easier time selling the stock Mercedes 18" AMG wheels compared to some cheap aftermarket wheel set up.
No I have aftermarket rims and winter tires for the winter. Not a chance I would drive those AMG rims on low-profile tires on frozen roads...

I paid extra to have 19" AMG rims, I definitely want to have them on the vehicle during the summer...
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