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Old 10-02-2015, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by pointbreak
That interior is absolutely stunning!!

Congrats on the new ride.

Edit - are you still looking for the black 19" AMG cross spoke wheels? they would look killer on your build.
Thx man!

Yeah, the C63 wheels... I would love to find those for less than the OEM price. I haven't looked very hard yet, but that is definitely on the to-do list. Find those wheels and pull together all of the parts for surround view.
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Decisions, decisions. Damn you with the silver trip sexy interior, Viper.
Yeah, my decision was a little easier because the silver fiber glass was the perfect combination for the silver vents in the performance seats.

Either one is going to look great... I like the idea that the silver fiber glass would provide the light contrast to the dark interior, to go along with the white exterior.
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Viper, your car looks AMAZING!! Congrats!! post more pics w your big boy cam whenever you can...I wish I can take mine out, but currently in day 3 of the Noreaster and the 450 been a dormant garage queen for the past 4 days. I'm gonna start using my GoPro once the weather improves!
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Viper, your car looks AMAZING!! Congrats!! post more pics w your big boy cam whenever you can...I wish I can take mine out, but currently in day 3 of the Noreaster and the 450 been a dormant garage queen for the past 4 days. I'm gonna start using my GoPro once the weather improves!
Thx man!

I need some good scenery for the backdrop for some additional pictures... I was thinking maybe Denmark w/ PalmerC450

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Or Switzerland w/ CornishPasty

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A distance shot of my new baby

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Thx man!

I need some good scenery for the backdrop for some additional pictures... I was thinking maybe Denmark w/ PalmerC450



Or Switzerland w/ CornishPasty
Looks like we need to do an American cross-country photo-road trip with our 450s
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Delivered yesterday and I love it. It's no C63 S, but I knew that. Keeping an eye out for an ECU upgrade to make it even more thrilling, but you can definitely have fun driving this car - and I am!

Here's my build. Will post a picture later today after windows are tinted.

755 – Steel Grey Metallic $720
661 – 18” AMG 5-Spoke Wheel (Standard)
640 – Lighting Package $1,580
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C450 was really 53K MSRP?
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Looks like we need to do an American cross-country photo-road trip with our 450s
Nice! I'm in!
Old 10-02-2015, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jester435
C450 was really 53K MSRP?
Yes, I got mine for 54,003 after dealership and registration fees and a 5% discount off MSRP.

Polar White w/ Linden Wood Trim $325
Lighting Package $800
Cranberry Red Interior package $2150
Pano roof $1480
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Plus got free wheel locks and MB all weather mats
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Originally Posted by jester435
C450 was really 53K MSRP?
Just off the base MSRP alone, without factoring in the discounts, the C450 only carries a measly $2K premium over the C400. However, with the 450, you get the C63 suspension, retuned engine, and cosmetic upgrade...in the end it is well worth the small premium you pay up for the 450 over the 400...sorry

However, let's say you got a 16% discount off MSRP off the C400 then maybe then, it is a more prudent choice to purchase the C400 over the 450. Some members have actually gotten close to 20% off the C400 cuz they were unloading the 400s in preparation for the 450...if you got that discount then mucho kudos to you, otherwise, 450 gives more bang for the buck, all in all
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Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg
Just off the base MSRP alone, without factoring in the discounts, the C450 only carries a measly $2K premium over the C400. However, with the 450, you get the C63 suspension, retuned engine, and cosmetic upgrade...in the end it is well worth the small premium you pay up for the 450 over the 400...sorry

However, let's say you got a 16% discount off MSRP off the C400 then maybe then, it is a more prudent choice to purchase the C400 over the 450. Some members have actually gotten close to 20% off the C400 cuz they were unloading the 400s in preparation for the 450...if you got that discount then mucho kudos to you, otherwise, 450 gives more bang for the buck, all in all
Exactly, that's why I took offense to jester435 and his dumb comments about how the C400 is basically a C450, without even saying how much he paid for the CPO C400. His comments suggest he was taken for a ride by a slick salesman. Unless he paid significantly less than 50 grand for the CPO, then his deal is not as good as he thinks
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Exactly, that's why I took offense to jester435 and his dumb comments about how the C400 is basically a C450, without even saying how much he paid for the CPO C400. His comments suggest he was taken for a ride by a slick salesman. Unless he paid significantly less than 50 grand for the CPO, then his deal is not as good as he thinks
The only C450 besides ordering in SLC was 61K MSRP.

My C400 MSRP was 58K it is fully loaded.

I paid 46K for CPO C400 with 2yr unlimited mile warranty after manufacture warranty & 2yrs of prepaid maintenance. Car was built in March 2015

Once again, I am misquoted. The C450 AMG tune wasnt worth the price premium for me. I got a better equipped option wise car

Palladium silver
Rear window shades
Linden Wood
New Pirelli Pzero tires (They changed them to all-season because we are in Utah $1,500 new tires they ate.)
Blind Spot
Lighting Package: Dynamic headlights
Multimedia package
Panorama Sunroof
19" AMG wheels
heated front seats
Premium 1 package
hands Free
airmatic suspension

I think that is everything.

It is really only missing driver assistance, which I didnt want.

this is why C400 with all these options MSRP higher than C450.

I am not trying to debate. It was a good choice for my wife and we are happy. They couldnt sell this car as a new car because it was Mercedes Demo car and it wasnt technically used, so that is why they made me a good deal. It was listed at 49,980. The link at SLC mercedes is still up I think.

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Not sure about you, but after about 45 minutes of driving, I have to say that I love the HUD. I wasn't sure how well the speed limit info would be displayed (from a frequency standpoint), but it seems to be spot on. So the setting that I have it on provides speed, current speed limit, next NAV turn, next NAV turn distance, time to final destination and final destination distance.

As well as it worked on my drive home, I would buy it for the speed limit alone.
Congrats on the new ride Vipershade! The interior is truly stunning, my mind is officially blown. Thanks for all your contributions to this forum, very much helped myself and a lot of others as well.

Good to hear about the HUD. Do you have Driver Assistance? I love the speed limit info on my BMW (also displays on the HUD) but I didn't want to pony up the $2800 for DAP just for that, since really the only other aid I wanted was the already-standard blind-spot assist.
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blind spot, heated front seats and premium 1 package are all standard in the 450 as well...

But you did receive a good price on the C400...I for one am a sucker for the little extra bells and whistles and declined a comparable C400 for 45K (it was the test drive car) and opted to order a fresh new 450..

But congrats on your purchase!!! you got a great price and in the end all that matters is you and what makes you happy. Money shouldnt matter, it comes and goes, just a medium to get you what you want in the end.
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Originally Posted by Vipershade
Thanks brother!

Not sure about you, but after about 45 minutes of driving, I have to say that I love the HUD. I wasn't sure how well the speed limit info would be displayed (from a frequency standpoint), but it seems to be spot on. So the setting that I have it on provides speed, current speed limit, next NAV turn, next NAV turn distance, time to final destination and final destination distance.

As well as it worked on my drive home, I would buy it for the speed limit alone.
You're the first owner verifying that speed displays on the HUD. I'm really glad to hear that. I couldn't get a straight answer from the local sales people. No question that speed limit on the HUD is worth the price of admission. But, actual speed and NAV directions are close behind. It all allows you to keep your eyes on the road where they belong
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Originally Posted by jaywac
Congrats on the new ride Vipershade! The interior is truly stunning, my mind is officially blown. Thanks for all your contributions to this forum, very much helped myself and a lot of others as well.

Good to hear about the HUD. Do you have Driver Assistance? I love the speed limit info on my BMW (also displays on the HUD) but I didn't want to pony up the $2800 for DAP just for that, since really the only other aid I wanted was the already-standard blind-spot assist.
Thanks man!

Yeah, I got a little carried away with the order system here are the options that I got:

319 Lighting Package $ 800
320 Multimedia Package $ 2,690
389 HANDS-FREE Access Package $ 250
997 Driver Assistance Package $ 2,250
P02 Premium 2 Package $ 1,520
P63 designo Platinum White Performance Seat Package $ 6,400
235 PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist $ 970
281 AMG Performance Steering Wheel $ 500
413 Panorama Sunroof $ 1,480
463 Head-Up Display $ 990
540 Power Rear-Window Sunshade $ 440
605 19" AMG® Multi-Spoke Wheel - Titanium $ 850
H84 Silver Fiber Glass Trim - Matte $ 1,300
P21 Air Balance Package $ 350

(This is from an old build sheet, I know at least the MSRP for the 320 Multimedia Package is wrong, I think the designo/performance seats might have dropped a little also).

Had this been a C63 or E63, I wouldn't have been quite so liberal with the options.
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Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg
blind spot, heated front seats and premium 1 package are all standard in the 450 as well...

But you did receive a good price on the C400...I for one am a sucker for the little extra bells and whistles and declined a comparable C400 for 45K (it was the test drive car) and opted to order a fresh new 450..

But congrats on your purchase!!! you got a great price and in the end all that matters is you and what makes you happy. Money shouldnt matter, it comes and goes, just a medium to get you what you want in the end.
I think he got a reasonable deal, and I also agree that the C400 is a great daily driver for his wife, and I would have done the same if I was only looking for a dd for my wife. Most of us could have gotten a C400 for mid forties, if that was what we were looking for. The part of his comments that got us ticked was this "Nobody is dumb enough to not realize that the C400 is basically a C450"
There was no need for him to justify his purchase by throwing **** on those of us who spend more for a C450, and I'm of tired of hearing how the C450 is just a C400 with a "tuned" engine, as we all know it's much more than that.
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Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg
Just off the base MSRP alone, without factoring in the discounts, the C450 only carries a measly $2K premium over the C400. However, with the 450, you get the C63 suspension, retuned engine, and cosmetic upgrade...in the end it is well worth the small premium you pay up for the 450 over the 400...sorry

However, let's say you got a 16% discount off MSRP off the C400 then maybe then, it is a more prudent choice to purchase the C400 over the 450. Some members have actually gotten close to 20% off the C400 cuz they were unloading the 400s in preparation for the 450...if you got that discount then mucho kudos to you, otherwise, 450 gives more bang for the buck, all in all
You're forgetting that it looks a whole lot like a C63 S and has AWD to boot. I'd say that's a bargain in and of itself!!
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You're the first owner verifying that speed displays on the HUD. I'm really glad to hear that. I couldn't get a straight answer from the local sales people. No question that speed limit on the HUD is worth the price of admission. But, actual speed and NAV directions are close behind. It all allows you to keep your eyes on the road where they belong
I agree... I am really glad that I got the HUD, day #1 and it has exceeded expectations.

On a side note, the remote start from mbrace is pretty cool (along with the locate feature). I kind of blew off mbrace on the ML350.
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I agree... I am really glad that I got the HUD, day #1 and it has exceeded expectations.

On a side note, the remote start from mbrace is pretty cool (along with the locate feature). I kind of blew off mbrace on the ML350.
Hey Vipershade, can you have the smooth ride in comfort settings and the louder exhaust from sport plus? Does the individual mode allows that combination?
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Nice! I bet it looks good in the steel grey.
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I think he got a reasonable deal, and I also agree that the C400 is a great daily driver for his wife, and I would have done the same if I was only looking for a dd for my wife. Most of us could have gotten a C400 for mid forties, if that was what we were looking for. The part of his comments that got us ticked was this "Nobody is dumb enough to not realize that the C400 is basically a C450"
There was no need for him to justify his purchase by throwing **** on those of us who spend more for a C450, and I'm of tired of hearing how the C450 is just a C400 with a "tuned" engine, as we all know it's much more than that.
I completely agree..I was prepared and willing to pay 10k more for the C450 over the C400. Like I said, I was offered a fully loaded C400 everything minus the airmatic (I think) with 1500miles on the ODO for 45K pre-negotiation price and I declined..instead I went ahead and ordered a C450 that I waited close to 5months for. and it was worth the wait, no doubt about it.
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Originally Posted by Vipershade
Thanks man!

Yeah, I got a little carried away with the order system here are the options that I got:

319 Lighting Package $ 800
320 Multimedia Package $ 2,690
389 HANDS-FREE Access Package $ 250
997 Driver Assistance Package $ 2,250
P02 Premium 2 Package $ 1,520
P63 designo Platinum White Performance Seat Package $ 6,400
235 PARKTRONIC with Active Parking Assist $ 970
281 AMG Performance Steering Wheel $ 500
413 Panorama Sunroof $ 1,480
463 Head-Up Display $ 990
540 Power Rear-Window Sunshade $ 440
605 19" AMG® Multi-Spoke Wheel - Titanium $ 850
H84 Silver Fiber Glass Trim - Matte $ 1,300
P21 Air Balance Package $ 350

How are you liking the comfort of the performance seat? Any concerns a front passenger will find it too restrictive? I ordered the performance seats based on all of the positive comments. I had a brief test drive in a C63 and I liked them, but my time in it was short. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
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Hey Vipershade, can you have the smooth ride in comfort settings and the louder exhaust from sport plus? Does the individual mode allows that combination?
I'm actually headed out for the weekend (minus the 450 )

I went to take it out a few minutes ago and the rain started right when I was half way out of the garage... SON-OF-A!

I'll give that a try when I get back... that was one of the configurations that I was thinking about also. I would have to say that I am not big on eco start/stop, I won't be doing that regularly.

The pops in Sport+ are definitely fun.
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Can any one give me VIN number?

Really i need it. Because i want to buy C450 diamond grill. But i dont know part number.

I go to dealer and say yor VIN number and request grill.
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How are you liking the comfort of the performance seat? Any concerns a front passenger will find it too restrictive? I ordered the performance seats based on all of the positive comments. I had a brief test drive in a C63 and I liked them, but my time in it was short. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
I have liked them since the time that I spent the better part of a day with a C63 S Ed1.

The side bolsters are pretty much the only limiting part, I think everything else gives enough adjustment to make it unnoticeable compared to the AMG Sport Seats. So if you/or passenger is too big for the side bolster adjustment to make you comfortable, you are not going to like them.

If you can get the side bolsters to feel good, you should be able to adjust everything else to give you a comfortable ride.


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