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Old 11-27-2015, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bourne
Ths forum is a bit sleeping these days let's move on !

The ECU reprog is now available in Europe. This is what I got from the dealer i'm used to.

Basically stage 1 + 33hp / 100 nm for around 1200 EUR

careful units are european ones.


Can you send me a website link so that I can update the website with this tune.
Old 11-27-2015, 03:20 PM
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Has anyone managed to find aftermarket wheels in size 19 inch for this? I posted this several times without a response yet. Even tire rack doesn't have a wheel that will fit.
Yea I got some HRE on order 19 by 9 front and 19 by 9.5 rear
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Yea I got some HRE on order 19 by 9 front and 19 by 9.5 rear
Nice! You getting flowforms or something else?
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Nice! You getting flowforms or something else?
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Originally Posted by osubeaver
Has anyone managed to find aftermarket wheels in size 19 inch for this? I posted this several times without a response yet. Even tire rack doesn't have a wheel that will fit.
While I don't have my C450 yet, my dealership tried SL550 take-off wheels on an in-stock C450. The SL550 wheel compared favorably with the C450, having the same front rotor size and similar offsets. The 18" SL 550 wheels were 8.5" front with 35.5 offset. The rear wheels were 9.5" with 47 offset. The front wheel had 235/45 tire mounted, while the rear wheel just had the rim.

The news was not great. The front wheel cleared the rotor, but it was too wide and was hitting the suspension. The rear wheel fit a bit better, but they indicated the wheel was very close to hitting the suspension. The dealership was surprised the C450 couldn't accommodate a wider rim. They are also not optimistic that any other oem wheels would fit since the closest in offset to the C450 would be the SL550 & CLS550.

I am hoping someone else will have a better experience, but at this point I am waiting until aftermarket fitments are known. Here are the photos the dealership took for me.

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Nice choice.

osubeaver, you should check out HRE, their HQ is here in SD
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Just started writing the review for the OE Tune


The tune should be up by the end of next week I need to get the car on a dyno and will have an update with track numbers soon just don't have an exact date.
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Can we do launch control with the C450?
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Can we do launch control with the C450?
As for as I'm aware the answer is no.
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
As for as I'm aware the answer is no.
How does the OE tune feel compared to Stock and the Vivid Piggyback? Does the butt dyno suggest the gains are as claimed?
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Originally Posted by *Knowledge*
Nice choice.

osubeaver, you should check out HRE, their HQ is here in SD
Thanks. The HRE wheels are really nice but super expensive. Looking to stay around 200 per wheel.
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
bump Cajun, did you see my post in regards to the OE tune? Is it on your car, how's it feel?
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bump Cajun, did you see my post in regards to the OE tune? Is it on your car, how's it feel?
not on the car yet should get here on tuesday. Just wrote the first two sections of the review last night consisting of the documentation on removing the ECU and information about shipping it off. I have a dyno scheduled for next thursday so should have solid numbers and a completed review for friday. At least thats what I am hoping for. As of right now I am carless yet again as the ecu is currently on its way to OE.
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Ecu's for tunes

Good afternoon everyone,

I am about to get into a bind in regards to tune reviews so I am reaching out to yall. My question is as of right now we have a few tester vehicles to flash these ecu flashes on however the number is finite. I am interested to see if some of yall would be interested in sending me your ecus to be flashed and allowing me time to review the tune. In return you would receive one of our ecus to use while yours is being reviewed and then would receive a free/discounted flash.

Im am still pondering on the idea vs. Buying some extra ecus but would like your feedback one way or the other.
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
Good afternoon everyone,

I am about to get into a bind in regards to tune reviews so I am reaching out to yall. My question is as of right now we have a few tester vehicles to flash these ecu flashes on however the number is finite. I am interested to see if some of yall would be interested in sending me your ecus to be flashed and allowing me time to review the tune. In return you would receive one of our ecus to use while yours is being reviewed and then would receive a free/discounted flash.

Im am still pondering on the idea vs. Buying some extra ecus but would like your feedback one way or the other.
Aren't the ECUs coded to the cars VIN now?
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Aren't the ECUs coded to the cars VIN now?
If that's the case then I will have to just buy new ecu's and have them coded to one of our cars.
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Godspeed Cajun, you are the pioneer! Looking forward to the numbers, if it is as good as claimed, this car will be epic.
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When I get my car Mid December and do the proper 1000 mile break in, then I will do some reviews of ECUs.
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The ECU flash doesn't kill the warranty in the US?
According to multiple sources no dealership in the states have the ability to detect a ecu flash in house as the odb2 port blocks root access to the ecu somehow. For someone to determine if the ECU was indeed flashed the ECU itself would have to be sent to germany.


I may be slightly off base as i may have understood something wrong, however the general info should be right. Someone else on the thread can confirm or clarify.
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Updated Us stats on the Lorinser Tune have been added to the site in a new blog post they are claiming 435hp higher then any other manufacture so for. http://c450amg.com/news/2015/11/29/u...nser-tune-info

I kind of like the body kit, however some people especially the autoeveloution doesn't let me know what you think...
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Originally Posted by cajun1689
Updated Us stats on the Lorinser Tune have been added to the site in a new blog post they are claiming 435hp higher then any other manufacture so for. http://c450amg.com/news/2015/11/29/u...nser-tune-info

I kind of like the body kit, however some people especially the autoeveloution doesn't let me know what you think...
I don't like the body kit. The side view is OK, but the front fascia with the curves is not my style.
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I'm having a hard time believing OE Tuning's claims... According to the graph, they are getting 395 WHP compared to the baseline 285 WHP. So, based on the driveline loss estimated from the baseline number (285 divided by claimed flywheel HP of 362 = 0.787...meaning 21.2% drivetrain loss), the OE tune should yield around 497 crank hp (395 divided by 0.787).

Why is this so far off from other tunes that are claiming 30-40 crank hp...?

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