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Old 08-29-2021, 01:54 PM
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Dont expect some good audio quality output from this "engineered on the lap" thing. Its raw, glitched and uses cheap elements base without proper shielding. I spent hours trying to figure it out till i opened it to take a look at schematics. They didnt even clean all the flux on the PCB lol. Sound is washed out with cut off at low and mid frequencies, especially when you use those parasitic noise suppressors ( with transformers inside) to remove background hiss and buzz. Its made as cheap as possible and it sounds OKish for most but those ppl with good hearing can clearly notice lack of range and mediocre quality. No way to improve it, its been made that way.
Yes, once again, it makes me shout: "WHY, MERCEDES, DIDN'T YOU MARKET A PROPER UPGRADE, ALSO PRICEY?"


Anyway, I will try to use BT output, which should avoid the analog step, hopefully it will improve the situation.
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Originally Posted by gibi72
Yes, once again, it makes me shout: "WHY, MERCEDES, DIDN'T YOU MARKET A PROPER UPGRADE, ALSO PRICEY?"


Anyway, I will try to use BT output, which should avoid the analog step, hopefully it will improve the situation.
It takes millions and years to develop this kind of stuff for the platform, its generational and manufacturers wont gna spend a dime or keep spare development team to work on updates for discontinued products, it will never pay back. So for us its either ching chong junk or new car. New features and technology are their incentive and leverage to push sales of new cars.
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Originally Posted by gibi72
Navifly N8 pro owner here on a GLC MY 2018.
I always had poor quality from the Android device, connected through the standard Navifly AUX to USB box connected to the center console USB on the GLC.

the audio is kind of “closed”, low quality and dynamic range. Did not make any instrumental measurements, but it is pretty obvious when comparing any FM radio to the web-radio stream through the Navifly (the same stream is very good quality on an iPad or smartphone).

I read all the thread and I see some nice setups (curious about the Dragonfly connection), but I guess I may have some issue with the aux to usb box or (worse) the Navifly aux output.

I am looking for any suggestions to solve my issue and, in particular, for some high quality aux to usb box compatible with the GLC .

thanks
I can't speak for the N8 pro screen, but I plugged my Dragonfly red DAC into the screens usb, set android volume to 100% (in settings) and connect to the usb aux box.

I then played songs from Tidal and the audio sounded just as good as using OEM Bluetooth with my Fiio M11. I compared them.

I mostly just use my Fiio M11 + Tidal (master quality downloads) + OEM BT.

When using the Tidal app on the 12 inch Android screen the tidal menu buttons are not visible, making proper music navigation impossible.

Also, when you restart the screen the volume goes back to default (low volume) and you have to set it back to 100% each time.

**There are workarounds for that in the forums and also the latest updates now include a setting to control it.

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One work around for Tidal ratio issue on the 12 inch screen is to use USB Audio Player PRO (with Tidal account).It works well.

USB Audio Player PRO (Showing MQA decode)







Tidal with menu hidden. ( I sent them an email long ago but crickets)

It would be perfect if Tidal scaled properly on the display.


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Old 08-30-2021, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gibi72
Navifly N8 pro owner here on a GLC MY 2018.
I always had poor quality from the Android device, connected through the standard Navifly AUX to USB box connected to the center console USB on the GLC.

the audio is kind of “closed”, low quality and dynamic range. Did not make any instrumental measurements, but it is pretty obvious when comparing any FM radio to the web-radio stream through the Navifly (the same stream is very good quality on an iPad or smartphone).

I read all the thread and I see some nice setups (curious about the Dragonfly connection), but I guess I may have some issue with the aux to usb box or (worse) the Navifly aux output.

I am looking for any suggestions to solve my issue and, in particular, for some high quality aux to usb box compatible with the GLC .

thanks
Serge is right on the headunits cutting corners on their soundboard as well as weak "updates" on its audio drivers.

Get yourself a decent digital audio converter,
good 3.5 mm cable, and subscription to tidal or Amazon music hd. If your phone doesn't have a headphone jack, buy branded Samsung or Apple USB-c headset jack adapter.
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Also, still can't find the option to select NTG version like you see in the videos.
Isn't it under UI Configuration in Factory settings? Password is usually 1314 to access it.
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Thanks, I was considering Dragonfly red, I need anyway to get a good AUX to USB box.
Any suggestions?
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Isn't it under UI Configuration in Factory settings? Password is usually 1314 to access it.
Not for my model for the NTG options.. I found out from the seller (Navifly) that for my model, in the top blank section of settings, tap the empty area three times to bring up the 'hidden' menu where I was able to select the NTG resolution options.
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Nothing of any real note to post but big thanks to benzdude for showing his install, convinced me to bite the bullet. Working perfectly after an hours tweaking:

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Thanks, I was considering Dragonfly red, I need anyway to get a good AUX to USB box.
Any suggestions?
The one that came with my screen works grreat, otherwise AliExpress has USB aux boxes sold separately. There are a few with good reviews.
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Car USB AUDIO BOX TO AUX 3.5mm Adapter FOR Mercedes Benz NTG5.0/5.1/5.5/6.0

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That's a good usb aux. I got one similar from aliexpress
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Hi all, I just bought the N600 Plus by Navifly for my Mercedes W205.
Everything is working fine except the sound. Sound is only working in NTG Menu but issn't working at the android side.
anyone know how to fix this? if yes help me please.

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[QUOTE = TaiTai; 8388685]同じ症状があります。リセットはそれを改善しましたか?[/ QUOTE]
The result was defective.
I sent it back twice and finally received the normal one.
If you have the same symptoms, have them replaced with normal ones.
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Originally Posted by gibi72
Navifly N8 pro owner here on a GLC MY 2018.
I always had poor quality from the Android device, connected through the standard Navifly AUX to USB box connected to the center console USB on the GLC.

the audio is kind of “closed”, low quality and dynamic range. Did not make any instrumental measurements, but it is pretty obvious when comparing any FM radio to the web-radio stream through the Navifly (the same stream is very good quality on an iPad or smartphone).

I read all the thread and I see some nice setups (curious about the Dragonfly connection), but I guess I may have some issue with the aux to usb box or (worse) the Navifly aux output.

I am looking for any suggestions to solve my issue and, in particular, for some high quality aux to usb box compatible with the GLC .

thanks
hello gibi,

i have the same headunit as you and also the same audio problem. have you already found a solution to this problem?

Thanks
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Hello!
I have a problem with Navifly N8 (GLC 250d, 2018) of the following nature:
After a long idle time of the car, when it is turned on, a blurred image appears on the Navifly screen, then stripes, and after 2 minutes the image is normalized.
This happens if you immediately turn on the car. If you first remove from the alarm, open the door, wait a couple of minutes and then press the power button, then the screen immediately shows a normal image
What could be problematic?.




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Hi, i need help please
I bougth the screen N600 Plus for my A class W176. Firstly there was no issue except for the Apple Carplay (when I played the music the music stopped by itself without pressing any buttom). The canbus syncronisation is not working:
- The iDrive is not working (sometimes it works with 5 mins.of lag)
- When I change the air conditioner I can not see it on the screen (it also works sometimes with 5 mins.of lag)
- The hang-in and hang-out buttons on the driving wheel don`t work

I have restarted the screen, entered inside of the "factory" settings and done the canbus syncronanisation (I do not know if I have done it correctly).

What should I do in order to fix all of these issues?
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hello gibi,

i have the same headunit as you and also the same audio problem. have you already found a solution to this problem?

Thanks
not yet.
tried to connect the N8 to MB audio using Bluetooth, it works and quality is much better, but I lost phone connection and calls.
now I couldn’t make any hardware test because I have been too busy.
I will keep posted
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Hi, i need help please
I bougth the screen N600 Plus for my A class W176. Firstly there was no issue except for the Apple Carplay (when I played the music the music stopped by itself without pressing any buttom). The canbus syncronisation is not working:
- The iDrive is not working (sometimes it works with 5 mins.of lag)
- When I change the air conditioner I can not see it on the screen (it also works sometimes with 5 mins.of lag)
- The hang-in and hang-out buttons on the driving wheel don`t work

I have restarted the screen, entered inside of the "factory" settings and done the canbus syncronanisation (I do not know if I have done it correctly).

What should I do in order to fix all of these issues?
By canbus synchronisation do you mean you ticked the log canbus data and left it on? that would be the reason why the screen is lagging badly, turn it off asap.
As for the other issues try contacting your seller, explain the problems and ask for updated MCU, that might fix the issue.
If you want you can post your MCU version here (system info in settings) and I can have a look if I can find an updated version.
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Hello!
I have a problem with Navifly N8 (GLC 250d, 2018) of the following nature:
After a long idle time of the car, when it is turned on, a blurred image appears on the Navifly screen, then stripes, and after 2 minutes the image is normalized.
This happens if you immediately turn on the car. If you first remove from the alarm, open the door, wait a couple of minutes and then press the power button, then the screen immediately shows a normal image
What could be problematic?.



Sometimes I start my car and my screen looks like the second image with lines. I just press a paper clip in the top hole on the left side of the screen to reset it.
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Same, paper clip reset
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Hello benzdude!
I tried to reset the screen with a paper clip, but this situation repeats again. I have an idea why this might be happening. I have a wireless charger installed (pictured below) that displays the voltage in the car's network.
And when starting the car after a long period of inactivity, the initial voltage = 11.8 volts, and then it gradually increases to 12.4 volts. It is at these moments when the car starts up with such low voltages (11.8) that the screen starts showing nonsense. In cases where the starting voltage is 12.4 volts at once, there are almost no such problems (although sometimes they were). Auto The battery is 3 years old (original), measured the voltage on it with a multimeter at start, shows 12.4 volts. Although the original head unit always works well.
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I can confirm that the Dragonfly Red DAC works with the 12.5 screen.

(A USB DAC can be used if you don't like the sound quality of the provided 3.5mm AUX out cable)

The Dragonfly Red is connected to the yellow USB cable and then to the included USB AUX box, using a short 3.5mm stereo to stereo cable.

The Dragonfly Red volume can be adjusted using the android volume control in settings. (Also make sure you have latest Dragonfly Red firmware)

I set my display volume to about 100% to match the Mercedes Bluetooth volume level when I switch back and forth.

I will be testing Tidal later as the Dragonfly Red can process MQA (Master quality) tracks for Tidal.

Tidal is having an issue displaying properly on the 12.5 inch screen, need to debug.
Hello @benzdude ,

I am testing a Dragonfly cobalt, but when I plug it in the Navifly USB port (then through their 3.5mm to usb and then to the GLC..) I cannot hear any sound.
did you setup anything on Android on your device? Any driver or app?
on my Samsung smartphone it works seamlessly without any additional setting
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Hello @benzdude ,

I am testing a Dragonfly cobalt, but when I plug it in the Navifly USB port (then through their 3.5mm to usb and then to the GLC..) I cannot hear any sound.
did you setup anything on Android on your device? Any driver or app?
on my Samsung smartphone it works seamlessly without any additional setting
  1. Make sure the cobalt is on the latest firmware.
  2. Plug it into the usb.
  3. Go into the Android screen settings and set volume to 10O%
  4. Make sure GLC media is set to USB Aux
  5. Make sure GLC oem volume on
  6. You can verify by plugging in headphones or desktop speakers to the cobalt. (Lower the volume first)
  7. The Android screen volume resets back to low volume on every reboot. (At least mine does)
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Hello @benzdude ,

I am testing a Dragonfly cobalt, but when I plug it in the Navifly USB port (then through their 3.5mm to usb and then to the GLC..) I cannot hear any sound.
did you setup anything on Android on your device? Any driver or app?
on my Samsung smartphone it works seamlessly without any additional setting
If it still doesn't work after what benzdude said then you can try USB Audio Player Pro on Google Play store, if it works then there isn't much you can do other than keep using this app, if it doesn't you can refund the app purchase and use a USB powered hub as that will most likely indicate the dragonfly isn't getting enough juice.
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