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Old 10-06-2006, 02:11 PM
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C32 @ 426hp & 593lb/t

Birdsauto C32 to S32 Conversion

I am waiting to see the cost on this......will post the return email when they shoot me back.
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wow....yah definitely interested on what the price of that is
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the torque that they are quoting is inconsistent with the chart that is below that paragraph, it says 384 torque...not 593 torque...might want to ask them to clarify that...sounds just like the evosport stage 2 setup except for the cams and high flow cats...
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Not only that but they don't even know where the air filters go
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All that money, all that HP, and you go from 0-60 in 5.1 to 4.8?
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All that money, all that HP, and you go from 0-60 in 5.1 to 4.8?
That does seem strange. Don't we have stock C32's on this site that have run sub 5.0s?
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Hmmm..... something is not right.

1st paragraph says 593lbft (=804Nm ). The table says 384lbft (=520Nm). So there are 2 numbers: 593lbft or 520Nm. BIG BIG difference...

If it's true that this upgrade could give 426hp & 593lbft, not 384lbft. This could be one of the best upgrade of all.... w/ less weight (600 lbs less) & same torque peak (2700rpm), should be able to blow stock W211 E55 (469hp & 510lbft). Heck, I bet it could blow away 65's.

But if it's "only" 384lbft, nothing special...

EDIT: Never mind... someone mentioned this already.... but hell, can someone verify that it IS 593lbft, or even 520lbft??? If so, I'll sell my C55 and get C32 w/ this upgrade... that'll be one hell of a car.... But from the list of the package, I think 384lbft is the right one

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Typo. I don't see that motor running 593 ft-lbs at all. If any, that will require serious internal upgrades, SC upgrade, and if not all that, then nitrous.
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I spoke to these guys over here in the UK, and it is deffinatly a typo guys, the 426 bhp figures are quite correct but the 593ftlb are not.

Price over here for this conversion is £9.500===$17.500. So dont bother
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17.5k????? wtf
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Did I read the boost correctly at 2.1 BAR? That's ~30psi. Can the supercharger support that boost level?
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This is an old MKB kit. The picture is taken from their website.
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Did I read the boost correctly at 2.1 BAR? That's ~30psi. Can the supercharger support that boost level?
Sure, for at least about 10 seconds before meltdown.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
Did I read the boost correctly at 2.1 BAR? That's ~30psi. Can the supercharger support that boost level?
That's my next new mod.....30psi. LOL
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figured it was a typo, and wow, that is some price for that HP level...definitely not worth it!
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
Did I read the boost correctly at 2.1 BAR? That's ~30psi. Can the supercharger support that boost level?
I thought that EVOsport tried 2x psi and the supercharger clutch was slipping
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Originally Posted by jgsx
I thought that EVOsport tried 2x psi and the supercharger clutch was slipping
they did, and it did...
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At 23 psi car made over 400 at the wheels, but the compressor clutch would not hold that kind of rpms.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ MBLN
At 23 psi car made over 400 at the wheels, but the compressor clutch would not hold that kind of rpms.
so there is no way to prevent the clutch from slipping?
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Short of redesigning the whole clutch setup, the answer is no.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ MBLN
Short of redesigning the whole clutch setup, the answer is no.
will the E55 clutch setup work? is it any different? maybe a heavier clutch setup?
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E55 clutch has different offset. More boost is not a reliable way to go at this point. Heads and cams will be more beneficial and reliable.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ MBLN
E55 clutch has different offset. More boost is not a reliable way to go at this point. Heads and cams will be more beneficial and reliable.
gotcha...thanks for the feedback, i agree with you...i am going to look into porting the heads and getting a set of cams....
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Originally Posted by jgsx
I thought that EVOsport tried 2x psi and the supercharger clutch was slipping

How efficient is the supercharger at that boost level?
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At stock boost, the blower is about at the limit of the efficiency With the standard oversize crank pulley, one is already operating down the slope of the efficiency curve. The Intercooler can barely keep up, even with the normal pulley swap.

Positive displacement blowers typically like to work in the 6lb/sqin to 12lb/sqin range. At over 15lb/sqin, one should consider making the engine more freely flowing.

The turbos & fan type (Vortech) forced induction systems are NOT positive displacement blowers, air volume is determined by blower turbine/impeller RPM. Also, because of the type of air intake plumbing they can easily use air/air heat exchangers, which are more efficient. Once the blower is placed in the valley of the V6 manifold, cooling is more difficult, but it very effective at low boost levels.

When running higher boost, one is just heating up the air and putting excessive drag on the belt drive.

If you want to run 30lb/sqin boost, go to an air/air intercooled twin turbo setup.

We need to find an expert at porting the V6 Mercedes heads. Also the cam needs to be optimized with the ported heads for blown applications.

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