C32 @ 426hp & 593lb/t
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C32 @ 426hp & 593lb/t
Birdsauto C32 to S32 Conversion
I am waiting to see the cost on this......will post the return email when they shoot me back.
I am waiting to see the cost on this......will post the return email when they shoot me back.
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the torque that they are quoting is inconsistent with the chart that is below that paragraph, it says 384 torque...not 593 torque...might want to ask them to clarify that...sounds just like the evosport stage 2 setup except for the cams and high flow cats...
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Hmmm..... something is not right.
1st paragraph says 593lbft (=804Nm
). The table says 384lbft (=520Nm). So there are 2 numbers: 593lbft or 520Nm. BIG BIG difference... 
If it's true that this upgrade could give 426hp & 593lbft, not 384lbft. This could be one of the best upgrade of all.... w/ less weight (600 lbs less) & same torque peak (2700rpm), should be able to blow stock W211 E55 (469hp & 510lbft). Heck, I bet it could blow away 65's.
But if it's "only" 384lbft, nothing special...
EDIT: Never mind... someone mentioned this already....
but hell, can someone verify that it IS 593lbft, or even 520lbft??? If so, I'll sell my C55 and get C32 w/ this upgrade... 
that'll be one hell of a car.... But from the list of the package, I think 384lbft is the right one 
1st paragraph says 593lbft (=804Nm
). The table says 384lbft (=520Nm). So there are 2 numbers: 593lbft or 520Nm. BIG BIG difference... If it's true that this upgrade could give 426hp & 593lbft, not 384lbft. This could be one of the best upgrade of all.... w/ less weight (600 lbs less) & same torque peak (2700rpm), should be able to blow stock W211 E55 (469hp & 510lbft). Heck, I bet it could blow away 65's.
But if it's "only" 384lbft, nothing special...
EDIT: Never mind... someone mentioned this already....
but hell, can someone verify that it IS 593lbft, or even 520lbft??? If so, I'll sell my C55 and get C32 w/ this upgrade... that'll be one hell of a car.... But from the list of the package, I think 384lbft is the right one
Last edited by zoink; Oct 6, 2006 at 04:55 PM.
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I spoke to these guys over here in the UK, and it is deffinatly a typo guys, the 426 bhp figures are quite correct but the 593ftlb are not.
Price over here for this conversion is £9.500===$17.500. So dont bother
Price over here for this conversion is £9.500===$17.500. So dont bother
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At stock boost, the blower is about at the limit of the efficiency With the standard oversize crank pulley, one is already operating down the slope of the efficiency curve. The Intercooler can barely keep up, even with the normal pulley swap.
Positive displacement blowers typically like to work in the 6lb/sqin to 12lb/sqin range. At over 15lb/sqin, one should consider making the engine more freely flowing.
The turbos & fan type (Vortech) forced induction systems are NOT positive displacement blowers, air volume is determined by blower turbine/impeller RPM. Also, because of the type of air intake plumbing they can easily use air/air heat exchangers, which are more efficient. Once the blower is placed in the valley of the V6 manifold, cooling is more difficult, but it very effective at low boost levels.
When running higher boost, one is just heating up the air and putting excessive drag on the belt drive.
If you want to run 30lb/sqin boost, go to an air/air intercooled twin turbo setup.
We need to find an expert at porting the V6 Mercedes heads. Also the cam needs to be optimized with the ported heads for blown applications.
Positive displacement blowers typically like to work in the 6lb/sqin to 12lb/sqin range. At over 15lb/sqin, one should consider making the engine more freely flowing.
The turbos & fan type (Vortech) forced induction systems are NOT positive displacement blowers, air volume is determined by blower turbine/impeller RPM. Also, because of the type of air intake plumbing they can easily use air/air heat exchangers, which are more efficient. Once the blower is placed in the valley of the V6 manifold, cooling is more difficult, but it very effective at low boost levels.
When running higher boost, one is just heating up the air and putting excessive drag on the belt drive.
If you want to run 30lb/sqin boost, go to an air/air intercooled twin turbo setup.
We need to find an expert at porting the V6 Mercedes heads. Also the cam needs to be optimized with the ported heads for blown applications.
Last edited by m444; Oct 8, 2006 at 04:30 PM.
