Secondary Air Injection Diagnosis C32 Amg

Jan 2, 2008 | 02:22 PM

ESCOFIASCO

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MERCEDES 500 SEC , C32 AMG , S-TYPE JAGUAR

Secondary Air Injection Diagnosis C32 Amg

The Engine Light Has Shown On My Car C32, I Have Just Dropped By My Mates Garage. He Diagnosed It With The Computer Which Come Up With A Secondary Air Injection Fault. I Have Warranty So I Will Be Taking This To The Dealers,
Does Any Body Know What This Fault Means? And Will It Effect The Car In Any Way?

Jan 2, 2008 | 03:29 PM

john89011

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MB C32 AMG

I just had mine replaced recently. Your secondary air pump is gone (the pump is located right next to your passenger headlight.) There's a service campaign out for a faulty relay that causes the pump to short (Service Campaign #2006030011) They'll replace the relay and flash your ECU at no charge. Note that some guys have experienced throttle response issues after the ECU flash. Below is some info you might need that I got from one of the posts on here. There's plenty of info on this in the forum just do a search on "error code P0410" Good Luck! Just print the info below and give it to your dealer and they'll know what to do.

SERVICE CAMPAIGN 2006030011
MODEL 170/199/203/211/215/219/220/230/463 AMG
MODEL YEAR 2002-2006
REPLACED SECONDARY AIR INJECTION PUMP RELAY
DC 59 950 01 7
FW PERFORMED CAMPAIGN 2006030011 COMPLETED REPLACEMENT OF RELAY AND PERFORM ME UPDATING PROGRAMING
FP-NUMBER 002-542-26-19-64

SECONDARY AIR PUMP (GETTING CHECK ENGINE LIGHT/ERROR CODE P0410)
PART#000-140-42-85 OR 0580000010

RELAY
PART#002-542-26-19
203-545-16-01(CONTROL UNIT)

Jan 2, 2008 | 03:29 PM

m444

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Audi C7.5 S6

Have you had both ECU recalls done on your C32 ?

The second one, they replace the air pump relay and reprogram the ECU to limit the time the air pump runs, so it will not fail as soon.

Do a search on recall or air pump. You will see lots of info on this.

The air pump helps the cats out by providing O2 to heat them up faster at start up.

Jan 8, 2008 | 04:09 PM

ESCOFIASCO

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MERCEDES 500 SEC , C32 AMG , S-TYPE JAGUAR

Booked In For The Dealers, Your Info Will Be Usefull. Will Let You Know On There Comments.

Jan 8, 2008 | 05:07 PM

MB_Forever

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E63 P30, CL500 Sport

Controversial Dealer Flash

Unfortunately, this is the dreaded (and very controversial) ECU flash that has consumed the E55 guys for a while. Some guys have actually shown data before and after this ECU flash claiming that Mercedes also installs a new EEPROM that hides the location of a new aggressive torque limiter, which prevents or limits (and in some cases severly detunes) the car's powers if you have any mods. There doesn't seem to be much effects if the car is stock.

I say do NOT let the dealer perform the ECU flash until you research this a little more. There is plenty of very useful threads in the E55 section of the forum about this topic. For now, just have the dealer fix the pump and the faulty relay relay switch but not to flash your ECU with the new software.

Here are some threads about the ECU re-flash, but if you do a search, you'll even find the discussion gets much deeper.....

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/153434-alert-hold-your-stock-ecu.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/157866-2003-e55-ecu-flash-another-mad-owner.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/163868-i-am-dissapointed-amg.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/163098-i-lost-70-rwhp-where.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/163617-dealer-ecu-reflash.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/166415-dyno-results-stock-vs-mb-recall-flash-vs-re-flash-renntech.html

Last edited by MB_Forever; Jan 9, 2008 at 03:35 AM.

Jan 9, 2008 | 04:00 PM

TopGun32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MB_Forever

Unfortunately, this is the dreaded (and very controversial) ECU flash that has consumed the E55 guys for a while. Some guys have actually shown data before and after this ECU flash claiming that Mercedes also installs a new EEPROM that hides the location of a new aggressive torque limiter, which prevents or limits (and in some cases severly detunes) the car's powers if you have any mods. There doesn't seem to be much effects if the car is stock.

I say do NOT let the dealer perform the ECU flash until you research this a little more. There is plenty of very useful threads in the E55 section of the forum about this topic. For now, just have the dealer fix the pump and the faulty relay relay switch but not to flash your ECU with the new software.

Here are some threads about the ECU re-flash, but if you do a search, you'll even find the discussion gets much deeper.....

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=153434
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=157866
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163868
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163098
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163617
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=166415

I agree...

but if you don't have a ECU flash and only bolt on mods.. you should be okay.

If you are stock.. you might see a bit different power delivery as on my C32.

As far as my E55.. got the recall last month.. and the engine feels better than before.

than again.. I only have bolt on mods and I'm pushing more PSI than stock.. maybe I dont notice the power difference as much.

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