C32 AMG, C55 AMG (W203) 2001 - 2007

A turning point in Mercedes tuning...Performance Supercharger Pulley

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rating: Thread Rating: 15 votes, 5.00 average.
 
Old 05-15-2008, 11:03 AM
  #576  
Super Member
 
turbo16lbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
1991 Toyota MR2, 2002 C32 AMG
Update on the Intake mod?
Old 05-15-2008, 02:50 PM
  #577  
Member
 
SRTpowa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Shreveport/BAFB
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Srt-6 Crossfire
Originally Posted by Code3 Performance
Next batch of pulleys will be ready next week.

178mm + SC pulley going on the dyno Wednesday night at 6pm. We will do a before and after.
Dyno results in on the crank pulley combo?
Old 05-15-2008, 04:23 PM
  #578  
SPONSOR
 
loungn14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Houston/ Austin /Toronto / UAE / Minneapolis / Orlando /Cincinnati
Posts: 5,459
Received 149 Likes on 109 Posts
Eurocharged Performance ML63 and TT lambo
Originally Posted by SRTpowa
Dyno results in on the crank pulley combo?
+1 or at least measurements on the sc pulley so we can do the math via the chart provided...
Old 05-15-2008, 04:49 PM
  #579  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
c32used's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,209
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
LET C32 2002
Question

Brandon did you get a chance to dyno the 178mm crank pulley together with the S/C pulley? I remember you saying that for yesterday at 6pm you were...
Old 05-15-2008, 11:18 PM
  #580  
M_M
Member
 
M_M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
C32 AMG
Originally Posted by loungn14
+1 or at least measurements on the sc pulley so we can do the math via the chart provided...
SC pulley=65.8mm.
Old 05-16-2008, 07:00 AM
  #581  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
c32AMG-DTM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 2,949
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2008 A8L, 2002 996TT X50, 2009 X5
Originally Posted by M_M
SC pulley=65.8mm.
Hmmm... interesting. So, if the "math chart" on Page 1 is accurate, the Code3 pulley should boost a lower max psi than a 178mm crank pulley - but Brandon's testing seemed to suggest otherwise... am I missing something
Old 05-16-2008, 09:36 AM
  #582  
SPONSOR
 
loungn14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Houston/ Austin /Toronto / UAE / Minneapolis / Orlando /Cincinnati
Posts: 5,459
Received 149 Likes on 109 Posts
Eurocharged Performance ML63 and TT lambo
Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Hmmm... interesting. So, if the "math chart" on Page 1 is accurate, the Code3 pulley should boost a lower max psi than a 178mm crank pulley - but Brandon's testing seemed to suggest otherwise... am I missing something
Very good point.....thoughts anyone?

for the lazy..

SC pulley=65.8mm.

Using a Stock Crank Pulley, the S/C pulley would need to be reduced to:

63.6mm to equal the boost of 178mm Crank Pulley running @ 6,200 Engine RPM
62.5mm to equal the boost of 181mm Crank Pulley running @ 6,200 Engine RPM
61.2mm to equal the boost of 185mm Crank Pulley running @ 6,200 Engine RPM
Old 05-16-2008, 12:45 PM
  #583  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
TopGun32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Southern Cali (Ontario)
Posts: 3,466
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Hmmm... interesting. So, if the "math chart" on Page 1 is accurate, the Code3 pulley should boost a lower max psi than a 178mm crank pulley - but Brandon's testing seemed to suggest otherwise... am I missing something
its the 1 and 2 punch of the smaller pulley with the extra intake filter...

which yields similar performance than say "evosport ODSP" with OUT ECU tuning.

I have been experimenting with my intake in the last few days.

I just removed the intake last night ..and throttle response is back to being a bit slow even with the clutch pulley on. Once the kompressor engages.. the car pulls great.. but not until you hit around 4K is when you get pushed back to your seat.

With the intake filter on.. the punch starts earlier and you don't have jab the pedal as deep to get the car moving.

But as posted earlier.. I covered around 50% of the intake opening with electrical tape to muffle the sound.

I'm going to definately put the intake filter back on.. but going find a better and thicker tape material that will last longer.
Old 05-16-2008, 01:45 PM
  #584  
SPONSOR
 
loungn14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Houston/ Austin /Toronto / UAE / Minneapolis / Orlando /Cincinnati
Posts: 5,459
Received 149 Likes on 109 Posts
Eurocharged Performance ML63 and TT lambo
Originally Posted by TopGun32
its the 1 and 2 punch of the smaller pulley with the extra intake filter...

which yields similar performance than say "evosport ODSP" with OUT ECU tuning.
ah..thanks....little lost...

Old 05-16-2008, 02:58 PM
  #585  
Member
 
MyFirstAMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Philadelphia Suburbs
Posts: 166
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
2002 C32, 2007 E550 4matic
Originally Posted by TopGun32
its the 1 and 2 punch of the smaller pulley with the extra intake filter...

which yields similar performance than say "evosport ODSP" with OUT ECU tuning.

I have been experimenting with my intake in the last few days.

I just removed the intake last night ..and throttle response is back to being a bit slow even with the clutch pulley on. Once the kompressor engages.. the car pulls great.. but not until you hit around 4K is when you get pushed back to your seat.

With the intake filter on.. the punch starts earlier and you don't have jab the pedal as deep to get the car moving.

But as posted earlier.. I covered around 50% of the intake opening with electrical tape to muffle the sound.

I'm going to definately put the intake filter back on.. but going find a better and thicker tape material that will last longer.
Thanks for the info.
Old 05-17-2008, 02:07 AM
  #586  
Member
 
SRTpowa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Shreveport/BAFB
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Srt-6 Crossfire
Originally Posted by loungn14
Very good point.....thoughts anyone?

for the lazy..

SC pulley=65.8mm.

Using a Stock Crank Pulley, the S/C pulley would need to be reduced to:

63.6mm to equal the boost of 178mm Crank Pulley running @ 6,200 Engine RPM
62.5mm to equal the boost of 181mm Crank Pulley running @ 6,200 Engine RPM
61.2mm to equal the boost of 185mm Crank Pulley running @ 6,200 Engine RPM
With the 65.8 supercharger pulley, can you calcultate what the boost will be combined with each of the crank pulleys? I guess Code3 is a little busy to post the dyno, but I am anxious to see how it works with the ASP pulley, sinced I just score a great deal on the set.
Old 05-17-2008, 05:46 AM
  #587  
M_M
Member
 
M_M's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
C32 AMG
Originally Posted by TopGun32
its the 1 and 2 punch of the smaller pulley with the extra intake filter...

which yields similar performance than say "evosport ODSP" with OUT ECU tuning.

I have been experimenting with my intake in the last few days.

I just removed the intake last night ..and throttle response is back to being a bit slow even with the clutch pulley on. Once the kompressor engages.. the car pulls great.. but not until you hit around 4K is when you get pushed back to your seat.

With the intake filter on.. the punch starts earlier and you don't have jab the pedal as deep to get the car moving.

But as posted earlier.. I covered around 50% of the intake opening with electrical tape to muffle the sound.

I'm going to definately put the intake filter back on.. but going find a better and thicker tape material that will last longer.

well, maybe this is because your filters are too dirty, try to clean them or replace them and see how it goes before putting the intake mod back in, I bet the result wouldn't be as dramatic if you had the new filters.
Old 05-17-2008, 04:24 PM
  #588  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
TopGun32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Southern Cali (Ontario)
Posts: 3,466
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by M_M
well, maybe this is because your filters are too dirty, try to clean them or replace them and see how it goes before putting the intake mod back in, I bet the result wouldn't be as dramatic if you had the new filters.
there new K&N bought late March...

its been really hot around here 90's..

in the evening the cars responds great.. with out the intake mod.

its only during the day when its really hot when performance suffers without the intake.. and even with the intake on, throttle response suffers a bit.
Old 05-17-2008, 06:24 PM
  #589  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Code3 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Santa Barbara & Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 973
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C32, Cobra, 700hp Vespa
Just a quick update.

Intakes - I apologize for the delay. I was told on Friday I would have these in my hands mid week. The time quote ended up being on the high side, not the low side. We are just waiting for the filters, thats it. Here is a shot of the die cut filter. The piece its sitting in is not part of the intake, it was just made for fitment purposes. The foam will be green. I will send these out upgraded shipping so that hopefully everyone will have them in their hands by the weekend.



Pulleys - Looks like end of next week I will have them back in stock. If you are considering a pulley, don't wait too long. After all of the positive reviews, they are flying off the shelf. They go fast! I actually have an aluminum one I did that I am going to test as well. Its light as a feather Not sure if I will offer them in Aluminum in the future, but it will be interesting to see the results. Also, I am currently testing a larger middle idler pulley for better tension and more belt wrap I am going to get my car back on the dyno with the new idler and see what she can do. It feels stronger with the new idler, especially down low.



As far as the crank pulley/sc pulley dyno, it got canceled. But, I was assured by the customer that it will happen this week for sure, most likely Wednesday night again.

Also, all good news to report on the belt front. Customers have been calling and letting me know how the car is driving, and how the belt looks. Nothing but rave reviews with no reports of belt wear. In fact, we are going to have 1/4 mile results this evening from the track event that LET had. The car with the SC Pulley had 34 miles worth of 1/4 mile runs today, and said the belt looks perfect. Look for times and videos this evening. It sounded like a fun event. I know there was a head to head run between SRT6s with the 185mm pulley and SC pulley
Old 05-17-2008, 07:00 PM
  #590  
Super Member
 
AirFrcd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 618
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
03 c32
Originally Posted by Code3 Performance
... I know there was a head to head run between SRT6s with the 185mm pulley and SC pulley
Please post some reviews NOW
Old 05-17-2008, 07:25 PM
  #591  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
c32AMG-DTM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 2,949
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2008 A8L, 2002 996TT X50, 2009 X5
One car managed 136 1/4 mile runs in one day!?!
Old 05-17-2008, 07:51 PM
  #592  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Code3 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Santa Barbara & Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 973
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C32, Cobra, 700hp Vespa
Not quite...Somewhere around 30+ runs.
Old 05-17-2008, 09:24 PM
  #593  
Newbie
 
Bikecop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2005 Crossfire SRT-6
Well, I really tested out the S/C pulley today at the track rental. With driving around the track and making about 30 runs I put over 30 hard miles on it. No belt problems and my car held its own very well against the other pulleys. I ran Steve Hellums SRT6(renntech pulley & tune) like 10 times and were about even back and forth. His fastest was a 12.51@111 to my 12.62@110.55. Riot (Let pulley, tune & H E) and I only ran once. His 12.6360@109.20 to my 12.6881@110.23(Code 3 pulley & HE and Inmotion tune) If it was not so hot we all would have had some much better times.

Last edited by Bikecop; 05-18-2008 at 08:02 AM.
Old 05-17-2008, 09:44 PM
  #594  
Super Member
 
turbo16lbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 594
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
1991 Toyota MR2, 2002 C32 AMG
I'll sit back and see until the Supercharger pulley gets refined. Upon release a product is never 100%. The tensioner is an excellent idea. Until Code3 has exhausted all of it's R&D ideas I'll be sitting back watching. Definitely eager to purchase it at some point. Who knows someone may in-fact be able to run the 185MM pulley with this product without a single problem who knows?
Old 05-17-2008, 09:53 PM
  #595  
Newbie
 
czwhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2003 C32 AMG
How do you get the pulley off? I keep trying to hold the clutch but it just keeps spining and I dont want to screw it up.
Old 05-17-2008, 10:00 PM
  #596  
Newbie
 
Bikecop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2005 Crossfire SRT-6
Originally Posted by czwhat
How do you get the pulley off? I keep trying to hold the clutch but it just keeps spining and I dont want to screw it up.
I used on of those rubber strap wrenches, it worked great.
Old 05-17-2008, 10:05 PM
  #597  
Newbie
 
czwhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2003 C32 AMG
I got the pad on it and I am applying pressure and clutch just keeps spining. the blower bolt comes off to the left not right.
Old 05-17-2008, 10:13 PM
  #598  
Member
 
SRTpowa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Shreveport/BAFB
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Srt-6 Crossfire
Originally Posted by Bikecop
Well, I really tested out the S/C pulley today at the track rental. With driving around the track and making about 30 runs I put over 30 hard miles on it. No belt problems and my car held its own very well agains the other pulleys. I ran Steve Hellems SRT6(renntech pulley & tune) like 10 times and we about even back and forth. His fastest was a 12.51@111 to my 12.62@110.55. Riot (Let pulley, tune & H E) and I only ran once. His 12.6360@109.20 to my 12.6881@110.23(Code 3 pulley & HE and Inmotion tune) If it was not so hot we all would have had some much better times.
Nice runs! 30 runs is insane. That warm weather is a bummer huh? Welcome to my world.
Old 05-17-2008, 10:37 PM
  #599  
Newbie
 
czwhat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2003 C32 AMG
any tips on keeping this clutch from spining?
Old 05-17-2008, 10:55 PM
  #600  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Code3 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Santa Barbara & Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 973
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C32, Cobra, 700hp Vespa
I just sent you an email in regards to the clutch spinning. Here is the picture from the manual.



Great runs Bikecop! Its nice to get some track numbers for the people that were interested in them. It looks like the SC Pulley held its own today.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 15 votes, 5.00 average.

Quick Reply: A turning point in Mercedes tuning...Performance Supercharger Pulley



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:10 AM.