Camshaft info?
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Camshaft info?
I think im going to entertain some offers on my car, but until i do that I think Cams are on my short list of mods i would like to do. I dont know much about cams so any info on them and where to buy them would be cool. Does anyone have them in their C55?
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As much as you have been wanting to mod, you should just sell your car and get something more tuner friendly, ie C32, E55, M3/5/6, etc. 
Honestly Cams aren't going to give you a huge gain that will all of the sudden make you happy. You will end up dumping more money into the car and not have anything to gain from it if/when you go to sell the car, which sounds like it could be in the near future.
Or bite the bullet and put the blower on that bad boy and live happily ever after.
Honestly Cams aren't going to give you a huge gain that will all of the sudden make you happy. You will end up dumping more money into the car and not have anything to gain from it if/when you go to sell the car, which sounds like it could be in the near future.
Or bite the bullet and put the blower on that bad boy and live happily ever after.
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I dont mind dumping money into the car, If I sell it i sell it if not its not that bad. i'm just trying to research parts so when i do pull the trigger i know what i want. Im not saying I'm getting cams just want to know who makes them and were to find them. If i keep its going to me insane when im done. Anyway just looking for some cam info, like who makes them and were to get them.
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I wish it was that easy. I dont mind dumping money into the car, If I sell it i sell it if not its not that bad. i'm just trying to research parts so when i do pull the trigger i know what i want. Im not saying I'm getting cams just want to know who makes them and were to find them. If i keep its going to me insane when im done. Anyway just looking for some cam info, like who makes them and were to get them.
I dont mind dumping money into the car, If I sell it i sell it if not its not that bad. i'm just trying to research parts so when i do pull the trigger i know what i want. Im not saying I'm getting cams just want to know who makes them and were to find them. If i keep its going to me insane when im done. Anyway just looking for some cam info, like who makes them and were to get them.FWIW, I agree w/ SilverBulletAMG - cams are a big investment from a parts + labor standpoint... I'd ONLY do this if you're definitely keeping the car - otherwise, that $3k+ bill could've gone towards the new car's mods (E55K, $3k probably at least gets you Stage I pulley + ECU + some cooling mods - that is, likely an 11.xx second car at sea level)
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Few questions
When someone says SLR cams do they mean the same cams that are in the SLR mclearn? If so or even if not were does one get them?
were can you get schrick cams?
Just to make sure ive got the best of my searching kleemann cams are made by schrick?
I know LET had cams a while back does LET still have them? if so would they work with a renntech tune?
When someone says SLR cams do they mean the same cams that are in the SLR mclearn? If so or even if not were does one get them?
were can you get schrick cams?
Just to make sure ive got the best of my searching kleemann cams are made by schrick?
I know LET had cams a while back does LET still have them? if so would they work with a renntech tune?
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you'll benifit from a re-tune afterwords. Since the profile on the cam lobes are higher, the valves will stay open longer, thus letting in/out more air. The tune should allow for more fuel and raise the idle RPM a little higher if your loping to much. And Yes, the same cams from the SLR V8k, my guess would buy them from the dealer, or online?
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you'll benifit from a re-tune afterwords. Since the profile on the cam lobes are higher, the valves will stay open longer, thus letting in/out more air. The tune should allow for more fuel and raise the idle RPM a little higher if your loping to much. And Yes, the same cams from the SLR V8k, my guess would buy them from the dealer, or online?
Calimax coming through i'll get the beer next time. So the slr cams are the cams from the slr mcln mercedes.
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i think you should think long and hard whether your going to go supercharger or stay NA.
Cams help, but you can't really take full advantage of the cams without the supporting mods. Since you have to take off the head to install the cams, you might as well upgrade to titanium valves and springs while your at it. Maybe a aftermarket head gasket to slightly raise compression.
Also with more aggressive cams, you do lose a little bit of compression so you either want to raise the compression ratio or turn up the boost.
If your staying NA, the cams will benefit with a port and polish head.
If your going boost then there certain things you can probably leave out. But if you lego build it, it's going to cost you a lot more in the long run.
Then finally ecu. Also keep in mind with aggressive cams, you'll have a higher idle and it'll make more noise at idle. Something to consider as well.
The benefit is you can make more power, rev higher and shift later.
Cams help, but you can't really take full advantage of the cams without the supporting mods. Since you have to take off the head to install the cams, you might as well upgrade to titanium valves and springs while your at it. Maybe a aftermarket head gasket to slightly raise compression.
Also with more aggressive cams, you do lose a little bit of compression so you either want to raise the compression ratio or turn up the boost.
If your staying NA, the cams will benefit with a port and polish head.
If your going boost then there certain things you can probably leave out. But if you lego build it, it's going to cost you a lot more in the long run.
Then finally ecu. Also keep in mind with aggressive cams, you'll have a higher idle and it'll make more noise at idle. Something to consider as well.
The benefit is you can make more power, rev higher and shift later.
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Good Morning All; If you wish please read the following . It has great info. When I have time I will add to some of the missnomers.https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...highlight=cams
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Good Morning All; If you wish please read the following . It has great info. When I have time I will add to some of the missnomers.https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...highlight=cams
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BTW I started to reread that thread and the more I read it the more I'm starting to understand what was being discussed over there.
A couple of things you posted over there stand out.
I thought that was interesting because when I took cams in to get measured the first guy "Scott" (who did the measuring) said they were almost dead ringers for the Ford 3V cams. Later on when another employee walked over to take a look he had the same comment. Not really any relevant info we can use but I thought it was interesting.
As I mentioned at the top of the post I'm looking forward to any info you may add!
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I stand corrected, Good catch. Like I once said I'm only Human Cheers ___PTEngineering
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...9&d=1177679826
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...0&d=1177679826
I did use a Micrometer and I'll stand by my numbers. I've ported & flow benched 3 set of heads , Posted the flow numbers. Had 8 sets of Titainum valve spring retainer built , sold them all in 90 days. Did the development on VRP cams. You can Search my posts under PTE . There is plenty of pictures too.. All for you guys to read up on.It was fun for me to do that kind of stuff. and share . Cheers ___PTEngineering
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...9&d=1177679826
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...0&d=1177679826
I did use a Micrometer and I'll stand by my numbers. I've ported & flow benched 3 set of heads , Posted the flow numbers. Had 8 sets of Titainum valve spring retainer built , sold them all in 90 days. Did the development on VRP cams. You can Search my posts under PTE . There is plenty of pictures too.. All for you guys to read up on.It was fun for me to do that kind of stuff. and share . Cheers ___PTEngineering
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I wasn't questioning your #'s (or your expertise) in fact I'd take your #'s over the ones I posted. I just noticed the typo and wanted to make sure people didn't get confused.
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As much as you have been wanting to mod, you should just sell your car and get something more tuner friendly, ie C32, E55, M3/5/6, etc.
Honestly Cams aren't going to give you a huge gain that will all of the sudden make you happy. You will end up dumping more money into the car and not have anything to gain from it if/when you go to sell the car, which sounds like it could be in the near future.
Or bite the bullet and put the blower on that bad boy and live happily ever after.
Honestly Cams aren't going to give you a huge gain that will all of the sudden make you happy. You will end up dumping more money into the car and not have anything to gain from it if/when you go to sell the car, which sounds like it could be in the near future.
Or bite the bullet and put the blower on that bad boy and live happily ever after.
