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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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6) wires. You will have to wire up the supercharger so it is always running I believe its just a 12v hard wire to have the clutch always on a retro fit car wil not know how to engage the clutch. I have wired in to my car some safety nets like... If the intercooler pump ever fails the supercharger will shut off, sure that will make it run pig rich but its better than kaboom.
Boy, thats really gotta take a toll on your IATs. Probably also does a number on your fuel consumption. (both assuming that you aren't bypassing later on in the intake tract)

Finally, I would get a good lab grade NGK sensor and a good wideband (AFM1000 or Horiba) and make a couple pulls on the street just to be sure the a/f is in an acceptable region.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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Very cool!
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Amazing man, looking forward to tons and tons of videos.

Good luck getting that power to the ground. What are your suspension and tire plans? Are stock axles strong enough to support that much power?
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rory breaker
Amazing man, looking forward to tons and tons of videos.

Good luck getting that power to the ground. What are your suspension and tire plans? Are stock axles strong enough to support that much power?
I can spin the tires on command its kinda funny looking in you rear view and what sound like a normal engine rev leave two strips behind.

I think on the street my axles are fine, but I'm yet to use them with VHT and slicks so more grip will deff but more torque on the axles. I dont think I'm butting down blackbezz power so i may bot have that problem.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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damn! Awesome awesome work sir... sooo sick
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
I can spin the tires on command its kinda funny looking in you rear view and what sound like a normal engine rev leave two strips behind.

I think on the street my axles are fine, but I'm yet to use them with VHT and slicks so more grip will deff but more torque on the axles. I dont think I'm butting down blackbezz power so i may bot have that problem.
If your loosing traction @ 80mph I can guarantee only 1 wheel is spining @ that point unless you have a true LSD. Though it is wierd how some esp simulated lsd's show rersults like you report @ lower speeds when rubber tracks can be seen. I've seen 1st hand a w210 e55 do exactly like you described (Mario's E55 w/supercharger "e55cent") left mean dually burn-out evrywhr..

My SL & other CL/S/E 600/55 commonly report 1 wheel burnout marks noticably stronger on 1 side (both spin but more prominent on 1 side IE like a 70/30 spilt)

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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
If your loosing traction @ 80mph I can guarantee only 1 wheel is spining @ that point unless you have a true LSD. Though it is wierd how some esp simulated lsd's show rersults like you report @ lower speeds when rubber tracks can be seen.

My SL & other CL/S/E 600/55 commonly report 1 wheel burnout marks noticably stronger on 1 side (both spin but more prominent on 1 side IE like a 70/30 spilt)
I will open up the diff when i drain the fluid next week and stick the wire camera down in there and see if this has some sort of LSD/phantom grip or what not. I will see whats up. Sure enough if i dont have an LSD or some sort i will be getting one.

The shop thinks since i switched to Motul diff fluid it maybe causing the lock up. Rich the owner and race car driver of Dyno-Comp said he was getting alot more lockup Motul diff fluid. He is running a Carbonetics LSD in his race car.

I tell you what the Motul Diff fluid is awesome, wroth at least trying it out.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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So is this what a torque spike looks like?

Take a look at my last dyno before the car went into shop for the rebuild.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...condition.html

Pistons were fried by HPS long before Vadim got the car.

Your AFR being in balance is critical. I'm surprised they did not record this on your dyno.

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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Take a look at my last dyno before the car went into shop for the rebuild.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...condition.html

Pistons were fried by HPS long before Vadim got the car.

Your AFR being in balance is critical. I'm surprised they did not record this on your dyno.
I would call that a torque spike, But if your are running lean your numbers wont be where they should. Torque spikes look a bit more violent and peaky, I tell you what though who ever did this dyno caused the car to kick down or shift. you can see that in your torque graph when it first starts out.

we did monitor A/F it just was not printed on this graph.

On the Dyno-Dynamics you can only have two things showing, HP and Tq, TQ and A/F, Hp and A/F, Boost and HP, and so on. I would love to show you guys a graph with all of those printed on it, but the machine will only let two monitored items be shown at one time. However you can go back and look at all the other stuff.. Like remove the torque graph and insert the A/F graph.... If thats not clear enough, the screen will only show two items at a time but will monitor them all. Man I'm winded after that.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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Mike, I couldn't help but notice you rounded up that 449.1 to 450 whp. Everyone knows proper rounding on decimal places.... .5 and up rounds up. put a bag of ice on the s/c to get that .4 more to make you eligible for 449.5 aka 450 haha
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 01:09 AM
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Mike, I couldn't help but notice you rounded up that 449.1 to 450 whp. Everyone knows proper rounding on decimal places.... .5 and up rounds up. put a bag of ice on the s/c to get that .4 more to make you eligible for 449.5 aka 450 haha

LOL. I was thinking the same thing. If i did a dyno jet the numbers would be higher, so 450 sounds fair? it would look kinda funny if the sig pic showed 449.1
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 02:43 AM
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Congrats Hooley

Well there is only one thing left to do.........Hit the track. This friday night is an ADRA race plus test n' tune trophy. So the track will get prepped for the race and you get to enjoy it after the 2nd qualifying session. Let the big boys lay down the rubber and get all sticky. It's the only night you can get a decent test n' tune in.

Do you think you will get a full second off your time? With the wind and cool weather coming in, this friday may be your best chances of hitting 11's until next october.

Let me know if you want to meet out there. If so plan on staying late when the DA is at it's best.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 02:44 AM
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nice work
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Well there is only one thing left to do.........Hit the track. This friday night is an ADRA race plus test n' tune trophy. So the track will get prepped for the race and you get to enjoy it after the 2nd qualifying session. Let the big boys lay down the rubber and get all sticky. It's the only night you can get a decent test n' tune in.

Do you think you will get a full second off your time? With the wind and cool weather coming in, this friday may be your best chances of hitting 11's until next october.

Let me know if you want to meet out there. If so plan on staying late when the DA is at it's best.

I plan on being there. my car is going in for a slight adjustment on a shift point right now and it should be good to go at the track.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
I will open up the diff when i drain the fluid next week and stick the wire camera down in there and see if this has some sort of LSD/phantom grip or what not. I will see whats up. Sure enough if i dont have an LSD or some sort i will be getting one.

The shop thinks since i switched to Motul diff fluid it maybe causing the lock up. Rich the owner and race car driver of Dyno-Comp said he was getting alot more lockup Motul diff fluid. He is running a Carbonetics LSD in his race car.

I tell you what the Motul Diff fluid is awesome, wroth at least trying it out.
Never heard of the stuff? thanks for the info googled it & HMS uses a simlar Redline product, other info points to Motul 90PA Differential Oil really helping to lock-up NON true LSD's I'm def giving it a try...
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congrats. that thing is a beast. you deserve the thanks of the many people that will be following your foot steps. good work.
He's paved the way for a lot of us! Including those that want to remain N/A and demonstrated just how far that can be taken without going the forced induction route (which I might add is fairly decent)..
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hooleyboy
I plan on being there. my car is going in for a slight adjustment on a shift point right now and it should be good to go at the track.
Sounds good, I'll clear my schedule and meet you out there. I haven't ran in almost 2 months.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:39 PM
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So you didn't flash the tranny tcu with e55 program???
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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So you didn't flash the tranny tcu with e55 program???
I dont know if you can do that? can you?
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:42 PM
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it's the same tranny just with a different program.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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problem we are having now is the throttle body is slapping shut prematurely under partial throttle, it only happens around 1800-3000rpms. Got the shop checking it out. not really sure why it is or whats going on.

It makes the car hard to drive under normal driving conditions...
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Never heard of the stuff? thanks for the info googled it & HMS uses a simlar Redline product, other info points to Motul 90PA Differential Oil really helping to lock-up NON true LSD's I'm def giving it a try...
clutch style diffs often need an additive to help them "slip" under normal driving conditions. just refilling the diff without the additive will make them grab more, but also wear them faster. GM used it for years, but im not sure about MB...
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Text me if you aren't going to make it tomorrow night.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cruzinquick
Text me if you aren't going to make it tomorrow night.

oh plan on being there, WOT works real good.
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Plan on staying till around 12am. They should still be running the ADRA race, they usually last till 2am. From 11pm on the weather should be just right. I'm expecting a possible sub 1400' DA that late. Any earlier will be lucky to be below 2000' DA. As it gets colder the track will loose some traction, but should be prepped real well for the race. If I can't make the start of the ADRA race I'll be out there around 8pm on. I'm planning on running the race but my schedule has been crazy lately.
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