MOD UPDATE:Swapped cams to 55k
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MOD UPDATE:Swapped cams to 55k
So I finally got around to swapping my NA (stock) C55 cams for 55k cams. I hit the dyno and.................. gained ZERO HP. Infact it didn't even move the power around or change the ARF. It did drop the boost my 1/2lb. whatever though.
Last night I did a cat delete and swapped in my "test pipes" Hit the dyno today and gained......... ZERO HP. However, strangely enough, it knocked my head exploding drone down quite a bit.. so I will take that as a plus. I also think my car sounds more like it did with my last exhaust system, and I liked that sound better.
As of now I'm stuck with 480whp. I think my currant intake design is bottle necking my power. I'm going to have to do an bigger throttle body and totally redesign the way my car sucks air. So this goal for 500whp eludes me another day.
Last night I did a cat delete and swapped in my "test pipes" Hit the dyno today and gained......... ZERO HP. However, strangely enough, it knocked my head exploding drone down quite a bit.. so I will take that as a plus. I also think my car sounds more like it did with my last exhaust system, and I liked that sound better.
As of now I'm stuck with 480whp. I think my currant intake design is bottle necking my power. I'm going to have to do an bigger throttle body and totally redesign the way my car sucks air. So this goal for 500whp eludes me another day.
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that sucks
did you resolve some of those "problems" you were having with the car mike? namely the belt slip, idler bearing, and exhaust problem you got yourself into? lol
you gonna check with your manufacturer about a custom TB? if so....i may join you as well
and yes, i think your intake it a bottleneck. it is not getting enough air flow. it isnt even near the radiator support/intake inlet.....it needs greater exposure.........aka.........take out one of those inner headlights....one on each side (its not like you use those ones much anyway).....and dual ram intake with maximum air exposure....ftw! lol (ok ok, i know how much you hate that idea)
did you resolve some of those "problems" you were having with the car mike? namely the belt slip, idler bearing, and exhaust problem you got yourself into? lol
you gonna check with your manufacturer about a custom TB? if so....i may join you as well
and yes, i think your intake it a bottleneck. it is not getting enough air flow. it isnt even near the radiator support/intake inlet.....it needs greater exposure.........aka.........take out one of those inner headlights....one on each side (its not like you use those ones much anyway).....and dual ram intake with maximum air exposure....ftw! lol (ok ok, i know how much you hate that idea)
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that sucks
did you resolve some of those "problems" you were having with the car mike? namely the belt slip, idler bearing, and exhaust problem you got yourself into? lol
you gonna check with your manufacturer about a custom TB? if so....i may join you as well
and yes, i think your intake it a bottleneck. it is not getting enough air flow. it isnt even near the radiator support/intake inlet.....it needs greater exposure.........aka.........take out one of those inner headlights....one on each side (its not like you use those ones much anyway).....and dual ram intake with maximum air exposure....ftw! lol (ok ok, i know how much you hate that idea)
did you resolve some of those "problems" you were having with the car mike? namely the belt slip, idler bearing, and exhaust problem you got yourself into? lol
you gonna check with your manufacturer about a custom TB? if so....i may join you as well
and yes, i think your intake it a bottleneck. it is not getting enough air flow. it isnt even near the radiator support/intake inlet.....it needs greater exposure.........aka.........take out one of those inner headlights....one on each side (its not like you use those ones much anyway).....and dual ram intake with maximum air exposure....ftw! lol (ok ok, i know how much you hate that idea)
I want totally paying attention. You know there are some smokin hot chicks who work at Schumacher MB. It seems today they were all by the parts Dpt.And NO! I'm not cutting up my headlights! I will just find another way to get more air. My exhaust is killer right now. I'm going to be trying like 3 different styles of new mufflers out, to see what one I like the best.
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I think some beer and a bar stool will help me come up with a cool idea. If I was still NA I would build a crazy intake. I've got to but some real thought into this next move.
Cant wait until after the holidays, I'm thinking SLR bottom end. Saving my pennies now.
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I guess the boys at AMG did a GOOD job on the cams after all. I am REALLY surprised that there was no gain here
After all, NA cams usually have A LOT more overlap to increase scavenging. And then you LOST boost with the SC cams which should have had less overlap and add MORE boost
Doesn't make much sense but I TRULY believe in you my friend.
Good luck with the other mods and keep us posted please
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How many mm is the stock MAF?
For throttle body modifications, you may want to try Accufab (http://www.accufabracing.com). If anyone can mod your stock TB or create you a new one, it'd be them.
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Dang! Thats unfortunate to hear hooley. How do you manage to lose half a pound of boost but still make the same power? Isnt that a good thing? 
Keep us posted on that intake design
Keep us posted on that intake design
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So I finally got around to swapping my NA (stock) C55 cams for 55k cams. I hit the dyno and.................. gained ZERO HP. Infact it didn't even move the power around or change the ARF. It did drop the boost my 1/2lb. whatever though.
Last night I did a cat delete and swapped in my "test pipes" Hit the dyno today and gained......... ZERO HP. However, strangely enough, it knocked my head exploding drone down quite a bit.. so I will take that as a plus. I also think my car sounds more like it did with my last exhaust system, and I liked that sound better.
As of now I'm stuck with 480whp. I think my currant intake design is bottle necking my power. I'm going to have to do an bigger throttle body and totally redesign the way my car sucks air. So this goal for 500whp eludes me another day.
Last night I did a cat delete and swapped in my "test pipes" Hit the dyno today and gained......... ZERO HP. However, strangely enough, it knocked my head exploding drone down quite a bit.. so I will take that as a plus. I also think my car sounds more like it did with my last exhaust system, and I liked that sound better.
As of now I'm stuck with 480whp. I think my currant intake design is bottle necking my power. I'm going to have to do an bigger throttle body and totally redesign the way my car sucks air. So this goal for 500whp eludes me another day.
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I am thinking about doing that but I think Hooley has more technical resources at his disposal.
I would have to send the block to the shop that does it for Brabus. With iron sleeves, the walls should be strong enough to install some massive Garrett Twin Turbos.
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Hello:
There is plenty on cam specs & profiles Please see page #2 & post #42
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ams-e55-2.html
Rflow306 car had the normal Mods , ASP pulley, H/E & Pump Cooling stuff 180* modded T-stat By PTE
MBK shorty headers. Primary Cat delete. The secondary cats still in place with the full stock exhaust pipes & Mufflers. 80 mm T-body.
Stock Air boxs . with K&Ns & SL-5.5 Tubes and an ECU tune from Active Autowerke
Cheers ___PTEngineering
There is plenty on cam specs & profiles Please see page #2 & post #42
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ams-e55-2.html
Rflow306 car had the normal Mods , ASP pulley, H/E & Pump Cooling stuff 180* modded T-stat By PTE
MBK shorty headers. Primary Cat delete. The secondary cats still in place with the full stock exhaust pipes & Mufflers. 80 mm T-body.
Stock Air boxs . with K&Ns & SL-5.5 Tubes and an ECU tune from Active Autowerke
Cheers ___PTEngineering
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Sold my E55 for a CLK63BS and never got to use them.
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Sold my E55 for a CLK63BS and never got to use them.
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So I finally got around to swapping my NA (stock) C55 cams for 55k cams. I hit the dyno and.................. gained ZERO HP. Infact it didn't even move the power around or change the ARF. It did drop the boost my 1/2lb. whatever though.
Last night I did a cat delete and swapped in my "test pipes" Hit the dyno today and gained......... ZERO HP. However, strangely enough, it knocked my head exploding drone down quite a bit.. so I will take that as a plus. I also think my car sounds more like it did with my last exhaust system, and I liked that sound better.
As of now I'm stuck with 480whp. I think my currant intake design is bottle necking my power. I'm going to have to do an bigger throttle body and totally redesign the way my car sucks air. So this goal for 500whp eludes me another day.
Last night I did a cat delete and swapped in my "test pipes" Hit the dyno today and gained......... ZERO HP. However, strangely enough, it knocked my head exploding drone down quite a bit.. so I will take that as a plus. I also think my car sounds more like it did with my last exhaust system, and I liked that sound better.
As of now I'm stuck with 480whp. I think my currant intake design is bottle necking my power. I'm going to have to do an bigger throttle body and totally redesign the way my car sucks air. So this goal for 500whp eludes me another day.
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Mike, I believe what you are experiencing is similar to what Kleemann (factory) has experienced with the C55 SC. There are no (if any) gains with the cams they offer for the conversion to SC. Thats why my car does NOT have them since the cost of parts and install did not justify the alleged HP gains.
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So I finally got around to swapping my NA (stock) C55 cams for 55k cams. I hit the dyno and.................. gained ZERO HP. Infact it didn't even move the power around or change the ARF. It did drop the boost my 1/2lb. whatever though.
Last night I did a cat delete and swapped in my "test pipes" Hit the dyno today and gained......... ZERO HP. However, strangely enough, it knocked my head exploding drone down quite a bit.. so I will take that as a plus. I also think my car sounds more like it did with my last exhaust system, and I liked that sound better.
As of now I'm stuck with 480whp. I think my currant intake design is bottle necking my power. I'm going to have to do an bigger throttle body and totally redesign the way my car sucks air. So this goal for 500whp eludes me another day.
Last night I did a cat delete and swapped in my "test pipes" Hit the dyno today and gained......... ZERO HP. However, strangely enough, it knocked my head exploding drone down quite a bit.. so I will take that as a plus. I also think my car sounds more like it did with my last exhaust system, and I liked that sound better.
As of now I'm stuck with 480whp. I think my currant intake design is bottle necking my power. I'm going to have to do an bigger throttle body and totally redesign the way my car sucks air. So this goal for 500whp eludes me another day.
