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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Congrats to Turk

Turk and myself hit the track yesterday as part of Cruzinquick's AZ shootout event. Turk hit is best time ever with a (Correct me If I'm wrong) 12.6 @ 111mph. Very impressive. I ended up loosing a $10 bet, that he would not beat a 12.70.

Some other highlights:

We had a G Wagon out at the event running in the 12's. I got got a chance to drive it down the track... Man that truck is so much fun to drive. Also the stock brakes on the G wagon are insane. It can stop better than My C55 and that think is like 6500lbs or something.

We also had a Stock ZR1 vette out there. I was running 11.4's at like 129mph. I got a chance to race it in my C55. I killed it to half track and then out of nowhere it blew my doors off. Every thing I've ever felt about Corvettes just got thrown out the door. Its an absolutely insane car. I feel even the fastest E55's out there would have nothing on this car up top. It literally blew right by my C55 at 1/2 track. Funny part was My Friend Rich (owner of Dyno-Comp) gave me a friendly wave goodbye as he was blasting on by me. If there was a microphone in my car you would have heard me say "Holy Sh**!"

My brother, who has never raced before. Ran a respectable 12.5 with 20inch wheels and street tires. His CLS55 sounded amazing. He's going to need some slicks ASAP. I honestly think he has a half second in that car if he hooks up.

Evan (Cruzinquick) was as consistent as ever. Placing second in the bracket race. I think his wife was happy he didn't win. I don't think she would know where to put another racing trophy. Evan has the cleanest looking 32 motor on the planet thats for sure. Its like he has a maid that lives under his hood. Not to mention the most Steelers shirts ever worn by a human at one time.

I ended up beating my best time in Arizona time of 11.74 with an 11.72. Nothing to brag about really. My trans was slipping all day as expected so I was just running for fun. And it was good fun. the weather was very comfortable at 70-80 degrees. The DA ranged from 1900ft to 3000ft. Not the best, but not bad.

Also The MB Atrs camber arms work. I was only able to muster up a 1.80 60ft at Famoso on H&R lowering springs. I got the camber arms dialed in and got back to a 1.60, 60ft. They are well worth the few 100 bucks if you are going to race.
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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congrats.

isn't 12.6 a little slow with all of turk's mods?
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingleberry
congrats.

isn't 12.6 a little slow with all of turk's mods?
Turk needs to work on his burnouts a bit IMO. He's got 350whp So I think thats kinda fast for racing in Arizona.
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingleberry
congrats.

isn't 12.6 a little slow with all of turk's mods?
91 octane....DA about 1800 or so (IIRC), and like Mike said, my first time with DRs....i couldnt get my launch down. this car has 12.5s and below in it for sure. i'll post some of my time slips in a second

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Turk needs to work on his burnouts a bit IMO. He's got 350whp So I think thats kinda fast for racing in Arizona.
haha.....check my last dyno, Mike.....i need my new numbesr
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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91 octane....DA about 1800 or so (IIRC), and like Mike said, my first time with DRs....i couldnt get my launch down. this car has 12.5s and below in it for sure. i'll post some of my time slips in a second



haha.....check my last dyno, Mike.....i need my new numbesr
your car would probably run a 12.3 easily on the east coast using 93 octane
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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my runs all on 91 octane (closer t0 88 octane quality):

12.7382@110.32 (1.8789 60'); 2526DA, adjusted 12.595 @ 111.573 MPH
12.6485@111.28 (1.9471 60'); 1824DA, adjusted 12.559 @ 111.793 MPH
12.7575@110.89 (1.9990 60'); 1983DA. adjusted 12.655 @ 111.788 MPH
13.0932@110.73 (2.1942 60'); 1983DA, adjusted 12.988 @ 111.627 MPH
12.8015@111.03 (1.9907 60'); 1824DA, adjusted 12.711 @ 111.823 MPH
12.7472@110.13 (1.9381 60'); 2349DA, adjusted 12.617 @ 111.264 MPH
12.7015@109.86 (1.8934 60'); 2644DA, adjusted 12.55 @ 111.185 MPH
12.6535@110.70 (1.9703 60'); 1983DA, adjusted 12.552 @ 111.596 MPH
12.6371 @110.76(1.8941 60'); 2526DA, adjusted 12.495 @ 112.018 MPH

not posted in order of runs, just in order i read over my slips....sub 12.6 runs were coming. i was stargint to get my launches down but then i ran too low on gas to continue running. those DAs were estimated made by Dragtimes.com's DA estimator thing. Evan's DA calculator there was showing 2800-2850 for my afternoon runs (12.7382@110.32, 12.6371 @110.76, 12.7015@109.86, 12.7472@110.13)

i think my times were quite good considering all the variables (track prep was also questionable IMO). better runs to come soon!

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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingleberry
your car would probably run a 12.3 easily on the east coast using 93 octane
i think that is certainly a possibility. that and with better launches. next time, i will try to make a 93 octane mixture and run that
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Sounds like good stories and good times. Nice job.

Only thing I'm confused about though is the $10 bet. We drive AMG MB's, it should've been a $1,000 bet. Or at least that's what I've been lead to believe with the MB/AMG tax we pay.....
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Congrats jturkel, I think DRs tires made the best runs for you..
Great trap speeds for C32 with 91 OCT
I wish you can brake this 12.6 in the future....


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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jturkel
i think that is certainly a possibility. that and with better launches. next time, i will try to make a 93 octane mixture and run that
any plans to get the high stall torque converter?
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper98912
Sounds like good stories and good times. Nice job.

Only thing I'm confused about though is the $10 bet. We drive AMG MB's, it should've been a $1,000 bet. Or at least that's what I've been lead to believe with the MB/AMG tax we pay.....
He's lucky I bet $10. My standard rate is $5. "I'll betcha 5 bucks!"
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Great times Josh!
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingleberry
your car would probably run a 12.3 easily on the east coast using 93 octane
Hmmm... hard to say. jturkel's car is a beast, but to say he'd "easily" shave 3/10th's just by running 93 on the east coast is a bit optimistic IMHO. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer - just realistic. With more DR practice, if he starts cutting 12.4's and 5's frequently, then I'd tend to agree with you.

If he ever decides to, his closest proxy would probably be to attend one of the rentals at Sac that the CA guys organize - it's proven to be one of, if not the, fastest track(s) in the country.

Regardless - great results jturkel! Is your fastest pass good enough for top 5 on dragtimes? Gotta be close, I think...
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Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM
Hmmm... hard to say. jturkel's car is a beast, but to say he'd "easily" shave 3/10th's just by running 93 on the east coast is a bit optimistic IMHO. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer - just realistic. With more DR practice, if he starts cutting 12.4's and 5's frequently, then I'd tend to agree with you.

If he ever decides to, his closest proxy would probably be to attend one of the rentals at Sac that the CA guys organize - it's proven to be one of, if not the, fastest track(s) in the country.

Regardless - great results jturkel! Is your fastest pass good enough for top 5 on dragtimes? Gotta be close, I think...
Have to agree, and being someone that was doing whatever it took to get .1 off the times, thats quite a stretch.

I typically found that it would take approx 25-30 whp to gain a tenth with a frequent basis.

Great job tho Josh!
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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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I dont think 93oct is going to make a difference that will yield any drop in time. When so many things factor into a good run it would be next to impossible to say 93oct helped. However places that offer 93oct at the pump, generally have better or slightly better track weather.

My experience with two tracks.. Speedworld in AZ and Famoso in CA. I was only able to cut a 1.80 60ft due to camber issues. that lead to wheel spin at Famoso. I still ran an 11.55. Thats with a DA of about 500ft.

Now at Speedworld in AZ I ran a 11.72. My camber was fixed and I cut a 1.600 60ft. Thats with a DA of 2500ft.

Now does knocking of 2 tenths in a 60ft translated to knocking of 2 tenths on your ET? IDK.. Hypothetically if it does than my car should have run an 11.35 with a slipping trans. Seems kinda hard to swallow, but you never know till you hit that run you dream of.

What does all this mean? I'm not sure. But, I would go out on a limb and say with some great racing conditions and a good hook Turk might be able to knock off 2 or maybe 3 tenths. Its really hard to say though. I think he needs that dream run all racers are after. Really there ins't a guy who deserves it more.

In any event I dont see that happening in Arizona. Last time I bet him he I lost 10 bucks though. That we wouldn't run better than a 12.7 and I lost. So who knows.. Double or nothing Josh?

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I dont think 93oct is going to make a difference that will yield any drop in time. When so many things factor into a good run it would be next to impossible to say 93oct helped. However places that offer 93oct at the pump, generally have better or slightly better track weather.

My experience with two tracks.. Speedworld in AZ and Famoso in CA. I was only able to cut a 1.80 60ft due to camber issues. that lead to wheel spin at Famoso. I still ran an 11.55. Thats with a DA of about 500ft.

Now at Speedworld in AZ I ran a 11.72. My camber was fixed and I cut a 1.600 60ft. Thats with a DA of 2500ft.

Now does knocking of 2 tenths in a 60ft translated to knocking of 2 tenths on your ET? IDK.. Hypothetically if it does than my car should have run an 11.35 with a slipping trans. Seems kinda hard to swallow, but you never know till you hit that run you dream of.

What does all this mean? I'm not sure. But, I would go out on a limb and say with some great racing conditions and a good hook Turk might be able to knock off 2 or maybe 3 tenths. Its really hard to say though. I think he needs that dream run all racers are after. Really there ins't a guy who deserves it more.

In any event I dont see that happening in Arizona. Last time I bet him he I lost 10 bucks though. That we wouldn't run better than a 12.7 and I lost. So who knows.. Double or nothing Josh?
Why not? wouldn't the car run more aggressive timing on 93?
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Originally Posted by Dingleberry
Why not? wouldn't the car run more aggressive timing on 93?
Maybe, Yes, Its all going to depend on how much timing the car adds with only an octane rating 2 points higher than what we have. Then it has to translate into Horse power. How much IDK? Then you get into factors like Motor Octane Number (MON).

Most good 100oct fuels have a motor octane of 100oct. Thats why 100oct is so good. Even better in some cases than 109oct. some 109 and 108oct fuels have a motor octane of less then its listed value. However pump fuels motor octane can be all over the place. They can even be 6-10 points less the what the pump says you are putting in your tank.

I might be going out on a limb here. But your 93oct (RON)* might have a motor octane (MON)* of 85 where as our 91 might have a motor octane of 85 as well. This is by no means accurate. Rather just to show how sporadic pump fuels can be from pump to pump.



Dont get me wrong, I'd run 93 all day long if we had it here.

kinda useful tidbit: At elevation in northern Arizona you can not even get 91oct at the pump. its not sold.

*MON stands for Motor Octane Number
*RON stands for Researched Octane number (rating you see at the pump)
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Congrats to jturkel as well! That is an insane ET for a vehicle of that size to be running.

Glad to hear that the camber arms cut a couple tenths off your 60ft Hooleyboy
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Congrats to jturkel as well! That is an insane ET for a vehicle of that size to be running.

Glad to hear that the camber arms cut a couple tenths off your 60ft Hooleyboy

Cant complain about that. They do exactly what they are desinged to do.

IF you are lowered they are a must. Unless you like to burn up your tires fast.
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hooley, we need the vids. upload those asap. i think sarah has some on her vid camera as well with some "nice commentary" lol
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Rich has the camera, I forgot to get it. I will get it tomorrow for sure. Tell Sarah to up load those ASAP.
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