320 dreamer

http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...tml#post641570

now dont go thinkin you will be able to best the slk32! this may help you guys get close though! if any of you know about needswings you know rob has top quality mods with all the data to back them up. cheap they arent but worth every penny! merry christmas!

loudandheard

Can't wait to see the results, hopefully we'll see gains as high as the srt6 and slk32.

320 dreamer

i was talking to rob early in the week and he likes what he sees. if they go thru the grill the power is great. i have the dual cai and robs manis and y pipe being thermalcoated as we speak. should get them back next week

jturkel

glad to see Rob has been able to come up with an intake for the c32. he has great ideas and products!

out of curiosity, any ballpark numbers over stock or other style intakes?

also....for those of the c32 guys who are basically maxed out (185 pulley, headers, tune, intake, heat exchanger, etc), i would imagine there would be only a minimal increase in power (if any) since we're already at the fuel limit. can anyone confirm or deny (or simply reply to?) that thought?

nhmercracer

I have purchased from Rob at Needswings. Perfect transaction.

TruTaing

About time! Interested in the pix to come!

Lenin

I hope you are wrong about the fuel . At 1/4 mile runs my fule PSI drops from 55 to 50. But that should still leave me some. Will need to monitor the injector flow and the TB.

It's kind of plain looking, but very functional and top quality work.

One may be coming my way soon.

jturkel

i hope i'm wrong too.... i just remember someone saying that at the mod level i'm at, i have essentially maxed out my fuel and would need to upgrade it to get more power.

please keep us posted on your findings (assuming you are getting the intake)

loudandheard

I wonder our the Kleeman fuel system would work for us. I've heard people saying that we need to upgrade to an E55 fuel pump and injectors.

Lenin

Kleeman used to use a Kennebell boost-a-pump on the w203 conversions. NW has other fuel related products that work fine for the srt6 and slk32 cars. Some of them run DCAI and larger intake manifolds. Time will tell.

320 dreamer

remember the slk32 and srt-6 have an external fuel pump. simple swap to a sl55 gives us the fuel needed for the bigger pulleys. not sure about the c32 with the internal pump

Lenin

How can I forget. I was mainly referring to the injectors. I don't think injectors would be a problem. And if I need more fuel pressure, I'll give the boost-a-pump a try.
Worst case, I'll get myself an SLK fuel tank with an SL55 pump.

320 dreamer

you can try ttm fuel rail mod when its finished. it adds a ton of fuel in a loop setup and he also has new bigger drop in injectors. i run the prototype from bruce and it dropped my afr 2 full points without any injectors added yet. i mocked up a hard line for bruce to build for me

amx1397

I heard the C32 intake is finished and testing on dyno, and flow bench is almost done so we should have pic and price within a week or so..

Lenin

Dibs on the red one.

Lenin

Pictures are up. Use the original link from post #1.

gt4awd

Can we get that photograph posted on this thread? Don't want to sign up to another forum just to see...

Gramma_Benz

C32 DCAI = 659cfm on the flow bench today

And a lil reference thread to go along with it...
https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/368319-sl55-intake-vs-stock-intake-vs-needwings-cfm-numbers.html

Originally Posted by NeedsWings
so today i took a customer loaned sl55 airbox setup to the flow bench to be tested as well as being tested with our devil horn setup.

we have previously tested several combo's of our CAI/DCAI's along with the stock srt6 intake system, that data is here...
http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...flow-data.html

todays testing was also done at ~ 15in/h2o

the sl55 setup we recieved had some trimming/damage to one of the "snorkle" tubes in which i assume he trimmed to fit on the srt6. we did however had a brand new identical (without the trimming done) air snorkel tube here that we did up for a sl600 a while back, anyways i substituted that in place so that both snorkle tubes would be OEM sl55 so the trimmed/broken inlet end would not squew the results. the sl55 setup had paper filters installed (not k&n drop in's) so thats what we did the testing with.

the results were what i was expecting and saying for the past few years but today i ponied up and dropped some coin for the flow bench time so this could be put to rest.

stock sl55 setup with paper filters and stock snorkle tubes flowed between 513-515cfm @ 15 in/h20

i then went for the devil horns setup. now i do not have any of the aluminum tubes that customers have been using to connect the devil horns to the sl55 airboxes so i did make a substitution. the tubes anthony sells have 2 bends in them, the tube i substituted had only 1 bend in it. sorry i made due with what we had here today. to once the substitued snorkle tubes went on we connected up our devil horns. with the horns on and the same flow rate we made 529-533cfm.

the attachment to the flow bench was identical to the setup we used on our previous trip there with the straight 3" tube heading up and then a 90deg silicone coupler to another straight section of 3' tubing aiming towards the back of the bench, this enabled us to attach the entire intake systems. yes the number for all tests would have been increased if that setup was not used for the adaptor to the bench but at that point we wouldnt have been able to test most of these setups. the important point is that all tests were performed the same in a climate controlled environment even though they were done on different days. im sure there is a very slight difference in humidity from then to now but we are talking a very slight difference in numbers if any.

so there is the data, the sl55 setup does indeed flow better then the oem srt6 air intake system but it is no where near the flow numbers of even our single CAI system.

so to get the important numbers together...
stock srt6 intake = 446cfm
sl55 intake = 514
sl55 with devil horns = 531
single CAI with teflon = 602
dual CAI with teflon and big filters = 748

gt4awd

Looks great... Very well made and thought out!

C32maximus

Great posting Gramma Benz. Great looking intake from a good source. I want it but I am starting to think more of us will have to look at fuel delivery upgrades soon.

Kreuzfeuer

I highly endorse Rob and Needswings... running several of his mods on my '6 and it's a missile.

tw2

I am keen to see what sort of filters they are. I like stock paper panels, just throw them out and get new ones. K&N are annoying, no one washes and oils them anyway. Interesting to see what he chose.

amx1397

the filters can be replaced for around $35.00 or can be cleaned and retreated.
just in case some one you know has a e55 he is the pic of what it will look like.

I will have some 1/4 mile times before and after soon.
of both my car and a friend's e55 jim

Nachtsturm

I hope they are not the HKS Mushrooms of DOOM.

Really looking foward to the results!

amx1397

they are inline cone filters ,, NOT the hks mushrooms