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c36 conversion
Hey guys, just wondering...
how often do 36's get converted into 55's? or is it mainly 43's that get converted. If it isnt so unheard of, whats required to do to the car to handle the extreme boost in power? transmission, brakes, etc...
Anyone done it with their 36?
how often do 36's get converted into 55's? or is it mainly 43's that get converted. If it isnt so unheard of, whats required to do to the car to handle the extreme boost in power? transmission, brakes, etc...
Anyone done it with their 36?
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For the C36 I would just get a Kleeman Supercharger and that alone will give it well over 400hp.
For a 55 conversion, you would use a C43 because they are both V-8's already. Nothing much has to be changed except (I think) the tranny.. and thats about it. From the 4.3 to the 5.5 it will give you roughly 50hp ontop, the 5.5 pumps out roughly 350hp..
For a 55 conversion, you would use a C43 because they are both V-8's already. Nothing much has to be changed except (I think) the tranny.. and thats about it. From the 4.3 to the 5.5 it will give you roughly 50hp ontop, the 5.5 pumps out roughly 350hp..
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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
From what my mechanic has informed me ( He owns a 1999 C43, and used to own my very C36) that a 55 engine will fit easy in a C36 since the front frame of a c36 and that of the 43 are exactly the same.
So its just easier to start with a 43 since the wiring harness is there and only an ecu reflash or swap is needed.
So its just easier to start with a 43 since the wiring harness is there and only an ecu reflash or swap is needed.
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Thats what I thought, i understand the easier way is the 43, but a v8 for a 16 yearolds first car was a little much. Dad wouldnt let me buy a v8, now im a little older and still love my car (wouldnt trade it for anything), I was just considering my options with a little more power. Id rather spend my time and money under the hood
My worry about a supercharger is that I already have 130xxx on the car and have heard that a kleeman will only stress the engine to much with those many miles... Is that correct? or just more bs....
My worry about a supercharger is that I already have 130xxx on the car and have heard that a kleeman will only stress the engine to much with those many miles... Is that correct? or just more bs....
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.......ok, i just couldnt help it. I hve not ben posting but felt compelld to respond to this one. Everything that has been said so far in this thread is incorrect. Not sure where you get all this stuff from.
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Wouldn't it be easier to sell the C36 (or keep it and leave it alone) and buy a C43?
C36 are kind of a rarity or at least finding one that it close to stock and hasn't been ruined by mods.
C36 are kind of a rarity or at least finding one that it close to stock and hasn't been ruined by mods.
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I love my c36, and I would argue possibly better than the 43's (a bit better balanced and arguably quicker around a track wouldnt you say)! I dont plan on selling it, to be honest ever. Its mint, literally looks like its never been sat in or driven. All I want are 18 Monoblocks.
This was just a curiosity of mine, that i was searching for an answer for. But what incorrect about what was said? Again its all just curiosity....
This was just a curiosity of mine, that i was searching for an answer for. But what incorrect about what was said? Again its all just curiosity....
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I love my c36, and I would argue possibly better than the 43's (a bit better balanced and arguably quicker around a track wouldnt you say)! I dont plan on selling it, to be honest ever. Its mint, literally looks like its never been sat in or driven. All I want are 18 Monoblocks.
This was just a curiosity of mine, that i was searching for an answer for. But what incorrect about what was said? Again its all just curiosity....
This was just a curiosity of mine, that i was searching for an answer for. But what incorrect about what was said? Again its all just curiosity....
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I love my c36, and I would argue possibly better than the 43's (a bit better balanced and arguably quicker around a track wouldnt you say)! I dont plan on selling it, to be honest ever. Its mint, literally looks like its never been sat in or driven. All I want are 18 Monoblocks.
This was just a curiosity of mine, that i was searching for an answer for. But what incorrect about what was said? Again its all just curiosity....
This was just a curiosity of mine, that i was searching for an answer for. But what incorrect about what was said? Again its all just curiosity....
And about the Kleeman supercharger,, these 3.6's are one of the best built engines, their cast iron blocks!! I've seen a guy add a Bi-Turbo to his C36 stock block pumping out 561HP! Actually these AMG engines perform BETTER as they age aswell. But adding a supercharger would definitly take away the AMG stockness.. But it all depends on what you personally like.
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I'll probably be looking to purchase a C36 sometime next year. Hope I can find one that close to stock.
If I can't find a decent one, I might go with a BMW 850i
If I can't find a decent one, I might go with a BMW 850i
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Kleemann dosen't make a kompressor for the C36.
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Correct, the only official kit that ever was released by a major tuner was the twin turbo Mosselman turbo, other then that all the FI C36s have been custom and done by individuals. With that said its an amazing motor to boost with its bulletproof internals
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sounds like airplane
yeah, this thread is great.
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omey- where's the proof of this 350 hp na c43 you've been talking about for the last year or so?
search?
omey- where's the proof of this 350 hp na c43 you've been talking about for the last year or so?
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Drew, whats up with the car, track it, dyno it, yours blow up too? J/K let's hope not. I'm curious to what came of yours.
You may be able pick up 45bhp with alot of mods sans boost? Might take every N/A mod available though...
You may be able pick up 45bhp with alot of mods sans boost? Might take every N/A mod available though...
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Bimmerman- I know of a complete stock, black on black '97 c36, about 120xxx in menlo park california. Best year for the 36 in my opinion. Its advertised in the bay area section in craigslist.
I have seen it personally and its a flawless car. Looks and sounded to be very well cared for... Hope it helps a little, if your seriously looking to buy one
Benzmaster- I have also heard before that the 36's do age well and perform just as strong since day one. But is it just myth that says they perform better? Anyone else with their two-cents worth on this opinion?
I have seen it personally and its a flawless car. Looks and sounded to be very well cared for... Hope it helps a little, if your seriously looking to buy one
Benzmaster- I have also heard before that the 36's do age well and perform just as strong since day one. But is it just myth that says they perform better? Anyone else with their two-cents worth on this opinion?
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Correct, it is possible but would require every mod available for the car to get it done (and just barely). Still.... sure beats trying to do a whole engine swap which can get pricey.
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car runs well- I'm happy with the power and love to drive it (the once a month I take her out, lol). I'm still slowly but surely cleaning things up and making it all pretty- plus finishing that new stereo install I started about a year ago.
I'm in no rush anymore at all- I really focused all year on training/racing my bikes, a season which just basically ended. It's getting a bit cold here now, but I plan to focus a bit more on the car for a bit now and perhaps get it fully up to the show quality I want for next spring. Regardless, my main focus will be my racing.
At some point I will get it on a dyno again- but have no real plans to upgrade it from how it stands now...
somewhat of an aside- we do plan to pick up another "nice" car here in just over 20 months. We are thinking of an r500.
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