C450/C43 Wheel Fitment Guide
#503
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yea the problem with upsizing rear for looks is on the 43, we have very small fronts in comparison so we cant upsize the front. You get massive push under steer with a large rear and small front. and with our AWD is is not close to necessary like the c63 which has rwd. my plan is to run a 275 or 285 rear with 245 front. still beefy (especially the 285) but will at least keep a closer to oem ratio.still not great oem. i bet a 255 square setup would be killer but squeezing a 255 up front is difficult. i may attempt it. we will see.
i currently am running 245/275 on my winter wheels and its working well.
#504
hard to say. i think there was a guy on here that had et56 lowered and it worked but was tight.
yea the problem with upsizing rear for looks is on the 43, we have very small fronts in comparison so we cant upsize the front. You get massive push under steer with a large rear and small front. and with our AWD is is not close to necessary like the c63 which has rwd. my plan is to run a 275 or 285 rear with 245 front. still beefy (especially the 285) but will at least keep a closer to oem ratio.still not great oem. i bet a 255 square setup would be killer but squeezing a 255 up front is difficult. i may attempt it. we will see.
i currently am running 245/275 on my winter wheels and its working well.
yea the problem with upsizing rear for looks is on the 43, we have very small fronts in comparison so we cant upsize the front. You get massive push under steer with a large rear and small front. and with our AWD is is not close to necessary like the c63 which has rwd. my plan is to run a 275 or 285 rear with 245 front. still beefy (especially the 285) but will at least keep a closer to oem ratio.still not great oem. i bet a 255 square setup would be killer but squeezing a 255 up front is difficult. i may attempt it. we will see.
i currently am running 245/275 on my winter wheels and its working well.
I might attempt a C63 front end conversion, so I am looking at C63 wheels for the potential project. A set of 20x10.5 ET 52 rears turned up and they looked fine on the C63, but just wondering if I'm going to get any surprises on the C43.
#505
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I have run 255 front on 20x8.5 ET30 successfully. Really depends on tire brand.
I might attempt a C63 front end conversion, so I am looking at C63 wheels for the potential project. A set of 20x10.5 ET 52 rears turned up and they looked fine on the C63, but just wondering if I'm going to get any surprises on the C43.
I might attempt a C63 front end conversion, so I am looking at C63 wheels for the potential project. A set of 20x10.5 ET 52 rears turned up and they looked fine on the C63, but just wondering if I'm going to get any surprises on the C43.
#509
I have the sedan, so I can’t speak for the wagon nor the coupe. But, if I’d do it, I’d stick to +55 offset. Looking at the clearance I have, it looks like it can still handle 1/4” inner and outer width. It would definitely be better if you had height adjustable springs. My h&r springs are fixed, so when I go through big dips on the road, it rubs the fender liner (worse with passengers) very slightly though. If I had adjustable springs, it probably wouldn’t even touch.
I’m on 295/30 19, now on 19x10 +55. I’m using Michelin ps4s. I used to be on 20x10 +55, with 285/30, Continental dws 06. The 20’s rubbed the liner more. That was because of the taller diameter.
I’ll post some clearance pics of my rear. You guys be the judge if 10.5” width with 305’s would fit. I think with a +55 offset and height adjustable springs it will. You can keep the fronts at 255/35, which is what I have on 19’s, it’ll still be within the f/r 4matic ratio.
I’m on 295/30 19, now on 19x10 +55. I’m using Michelin ps4s. I used to be on 20x10 +55, with 285/30, Continental dws 06. The 20’s rubbed the liner more. That was because of the taller diameter.
I’ll post some clearance pics of my rear. You guys be the judge if 10.5” width with 305’s would fit. I think with a +55 offset and height adjustable springs it will. You can keep the fronts at 255/35, which is what I have on 19’s, it’ll still be within the f/r 4matic ratio.
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#510
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I have the sedan, so I can’t speak for the wagon nor the coupe. But, if I’d do it, I’d stick to +55 offset. Looking at the clearance I have, it looks like it can still handle 1/4” inner and outer width. It would definitely be better if you had height adjustable springs. My h&r springs are fixed, so when I go through big dips on the road, it rubs the fender liner (worse with passengers) very slightly though. If I had adjustable springs, it probably wouldn’t even touch.
I’m on 295/30 19, now on 19x10 +55. I’m using Michelin ps4s. I used to be on 20x10 +55, with 285/30, Continental dws 06. The 20’s rubbed the liner more. That was because of the taller diameter.
I’ll post some clearance pics of my rear. You guys be the judge if 10.5” width with 305’s would fit. I think with a +55 offset and height adjustable springs it will. You can keep the fronts at 255/35, which is what I have on 19’s, it’ll still be within the f/r 4matic ratio.
I’m on 295/30 19, now on 19x10 +55. I’m using Michelin ps4s. I used to be on 20x10 +55, with 285/30, Continental dws 06. The 20’s rubbed the liner more. That was because of the taller diameter.
I’ll post some clearance pics of my rear. You guys be the judge if 10.5” width with 305’s would fit. I think with a +55 offset and height adjustable springs it will. You can keep the fronts at 255/35, which is what I have on 19’s, it’ll still be within the f/r 4matic ratio.
thats really tight! any pics and spec of the 255 front setup?
#513
#514
That’s from manufacturing. The rubbing doesn’t happen there. It’s more on top, on the tread part when the suspension bottoms out. This is why it only happens when I speed through dips. The tire goes up and inwards when the suspension compresses and the felt like lining is where it rubs. If you have height adjustable springs, you can raise the height a little bit and it even helps with the dreaded “reverse rake”, unless the wagon doesn’t suffer from it when lowered on h&r fixed springs.
#515
#516
Regardless I will still match the rolling diameter front to rear for the 4matic.
#517
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#519
If you can stick out 4mm more which i think you can, you’ll be ok. That basically puts your outer rim as if you had 10.5” +52. If you have a 5mm spacer available, you can try installing that with your current wheel and be able to check clearance. From there you should be able to check if you’re comfortable on how tight it fits. What aspect ratio do you have on the 265’s?
#520
If you can stick out 4mm more which i think you can, you’ll be ok. That basically puts your outer rim as if you had 10.5” +52. If you have a 5mm spacer available, you can try installing that with your current wheel and be able to check clearance. From there you should be able to check if you’re comfortable on how tight it fits. What aspect ratio do you have on the 265’s?
#521
2019 c43 Wagon with bbs lm-r
Ok so i have found my dream wheel for sale and I’m a bit confused if they will fit.
is there any way to make this combination of spacers/tired you can recommend to make these work on a stock height 2019 C43 wagon.
specs are:
front: 19” 8.5 wide and 38 offset
rear: 19” 9.5 wide and 38 offset
is there any way to make this combination of spacers/tired you can recommend to make these work on a stock height 2019 C43 wagon.
specs are:
front: 19” 8.5 wide and 38 offset
rear: 19” 9.5 wide and 38 offset
#522
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Ok so i have found my dream wheel for sale and I’m a bit confused if they will fit.
is there any way to make this combination of spacers/tired you can recommend to make these work on a stock height 2019 C43 wagon.
specs are:
front: 19” 8.5 wide and 38 offset
rear: 19” 9.5 wide and 38 offset
is there any way to make this combination of spacers/tired you can recommend to make these work on a stock height 2019 C43 wagon.
specs are:
front: 19” 8.5 wide and 38 offset
rear: 19” 9.5 wide and 38 offset
You could have the rear hub machined for the 9.5's reducing the offset. Need to get them down to et40ish - et45. BBS has proprietary spacers that could easily put them right back to correct spec. Given that the bore and all that is correct.
I run 9.5 et39 lowered and the people a et36 stock height are poking pretty hard. I would not go any wider than my current set up in the rear.
you must have edited post. sorry. the rear is borderline and front needs the BBS 10mm to be safe. Should really lower it to make it work though.
Last edited by alexasa; 01-08-2020 at 01:42 PM.
#523
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Ok so i have found my dream wheel for sale and I’m a bit confused if they will fit.
is there any way to make this combination of spacers/tired you can recommend to make these work on a stock height 2019 C43 wagon.
specs are:
front: 19” 8.5 wide and 38 offset
rear: 19” 9.5 wide and 38 offset
is there any way to make this combination of spacers/tired you can recommend to make these work on a stock height 2019 C43 wagon.
specs are:
front: 19” 8.5 wide and 38 offset
rear: 19” 9.5 wide and 38 offset
rear is bolt on. may poke a little though. i think an aggressive fitment for rear is 9.5j with an et of 45. so pushing another 7mm may look off unless you are lowered.
#524
rear is too aggressive for stock ride height. but front would just need a BBS 5mm spacer to work.
You could have the rear hub machined for the 9.5's reducing the offset. Need to get them down to et40ish - et45. BBS has proprietary spacers that could easily put them right back to correct spec. Given that the bore and all that is correct.
I run 9.5 et39 lowered and the people a et36 stock height are poking pretty hard. I would not go any wider than my current set up in the rear.
you must have edited post. sorry. the rear is borderline and front needs the BBS 10mm to be safe. Should really lower it to make it work though.
You could have the rear hub machined for the 9.5's reducing the offset. Need to get them down to et40ish - et45. BBS has proprietary spacers that could easily put them right back to correct spec. Given that the bore and all that is correct.
I run 9.5 et39 lowered and the people a et36 stock height are poking pretty hard. I would not go any wider than my current set up in the rear.
you must have edited post. sorry. the rear is borderline and front needs the BBS 10mm to be safe. Should really lower it to make it work though.
sorry I put the wrong offset before I edited it, I’ll attach a picture of all the wheel specs I have currently.
machine the wheel to increase offset is a concept I have never considered.. so with a 38 offset I can hope to achieve a 43-45max?