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FishtailnZ

I can't believe I just read all this....sounds like a facking knitting circle. Ah well, entertaining on a boring night shift if nothing else.

bigben320e

I don't know about you guys but I am in suspense on the finale.

AMGSC

Can't we find a single AMG engineer to give us just the facts on whether the TCU can be tuned or not?

I'm getting a huge headache reading about everybody's claims, assertions and speculations. Please somebody that is a true AMG automotive engineering and software seasoned professional present such credentials before posting the truth.

AMGSC

Can I presume that the tune is too aggressive perhaps via such an extremely advanced timing? I can only recall when several HPS cars with a custom tune may have caused the engines to blow-up. Of course, the SC kit could also have contributed. My buddy's CL55 was one of them.

I know for a fact that Vadim would never push the envelope of power to the edge of safety, reliability or driveability even though I pressure him to do so constanlty for the last year or so. Heck I wanted him to tune for my methanol injection and he refused although he knew it would make much more power but was unsafe. He also is very conservative on how to proceed with the Twin-Charge set-up despite me constantly pushing him to do it. . He can easily make more money off me but advises against power mods that do not add much value. Examples include my latest request for ALL titanium engine upgrades, bigger exhaust, etc...or short-cut ways to further lower compression by using thicker gaskets which causes improper combustion.

I know I'm in good hands with Vadim because he has the customers LONG TERM interest in mind. I'm always wary of tuners that want to make a one-time big number at the track or on the dyno just to promote their product or service without any regard for the long term consequences a few months or years down the road when it's too late for the customer to do anything about it when something goes wrong. Vadim always tells me I'm a customer for life and he will treat my car as his own for as long as I own it!

mrtesting

Thank you! You said pretty much everything I said in my post.. however I tried to make it a bit more dummy proof. Either way, I hope that people here can read our posts and understand.

mrtesting

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Jones

I call myself Dr. Jones cause like Indy I HATE SNAKES, and boy is this place filled with em.
Now I hope someone reads this before it gets taken down by the owners/operators/dictators of this board.
If there is anyone who thinks this board is fair or nonbiased please just refer to this entire thread when you do.
First of all let us just pretend that the guy who started this thread has no other agenda other than to call out ANdy because he called him a fool. Ummm....Ooooookkayyy.
Everyone on this board has at one time or another insulted or said much worse things to fellow members. So far I have yet to see anyone else respond in this manner.
Now to be clear I am not Andys buddy chearleader or even friend, but this guy has gotten a rawer deal than A-Rod.
Anyone who has ever played the game Clue can put this together and figure out Andy is not being done by the Candlestick but clearly the keyboard instead.
I think the final piece of the puzzle fell into place when IndyJoe said maybe this has something to do with JRCarts car being over at EvoSport.
Hmmmmm..............
Than read another thread that said Evosport is going to start tuning the TCU - Hmmmmmmmmm...............Hmmmmmmmmmmmm............ ..
Then Jim chimes in that he's going back to a Powerchips tune boy the Spidey senses are tinglin now.
Powerchips dont they tune for .... ??? Wait its coming to me - YES! Evosport! Can u believe that?
Could Evosport have pulled a Jedi Mind Trick on old Jim while his cars has been there for over 3 weeks?
Now Tim said its nothing more than a stock 63 tune - now if Jim was one of only 3 in the country to have this - How would Tim have known this?
Could it be that Evosport jacked the MHP tune from Jims car?
Could it be that Evosport told people that it was a stock 63 tune - could it be that they told Jim the same thing?
Wow lots of questions here - lots.
NOw -This guy Tim comes out of no where after being called a "fool" and posts semantic issues ab ANdys tune - is it a flash - is it a tune?
Does it matter what its called? TOmato - Tumato - same thing to me.
Tune/Flash - are we splittig hairs over terms. The facts remain that Andy said that you would get raised shift points - CHeck! (according to those that have it) and firmer shifts - CHeck! so far I fail to see the fraud here?
ANyone?
If ANdy is frauding people by calling it a flash instead of a tune -Ok.
And if the tune is indeed too expensive and your getting ripped off - Ok again - dont buy it.
Seems to me that before Andy came along nobody was even talking about "adjusting the transmission" as Tim even admits can be done thru the ECU.
SO lets dig a little deeper shall we?
Andy comes along and makes alot of noise with his BIG MOUTH and obviously uncontrollable hands.
Starts making claims that nobody else does or even claims to be able to do.
Andy becomes a sponsor. Andy starts to get customers. Can anyone answer who runs this board - Times up - EVOSPORT!
Now at the end of the day folks what does everything boil down to?
YES - M O N E Y $! Every tune that Andy sells is one less tune that Evosport or anyone else is getting. And in this horrible economic climate its every man for himself. There is much more at stake here folks than bragging rites - Companies are on the line here - families that eat off these companies and if an upstart comes along and steals some of the thunder - well thats a bit of a problem isnt it?
THink this is far fetched well lets go to the post made by the M6 guy who stated how Wayne at Powerchips was relentlessly calling him to try his tune over ANdys - and i seem to remember a certain JRCart claiming the same thing here too. The same Jr CArt that is now back in bed w them.
Wow this really stinks man.
So if Andys tune was such garbage why was Wayne calling alot of the MHP guys to try and persuade them hell even offering free reflashes to get his customers back? ANyone care to venture a guess?
BECAUSE MAYBE ANDYS TUNE ISNT GARBAGE.
Maybe they were all running scared of this loudmouth pain in the *** who now managed to be a sponsor on the very board that you manipulate so well.
What better way of controlling him than constantly banning or suspending him for absurd "TOU" violations. PLEASE PLEASE - everyone here has violated the TOU and i only see a handful hell less than that getting banned or suspended or put on probation. There is only one guy here that is constantly put on suspension or probation constantly.
Do you think its a coincidence that this revelation has come at a time when Andy is banned for 30 days? THink again. Seriously read thru the thread that his latest ban came from - its absurd that hes banned.
Any ANdy member that comes to his aid has a probation next to their name. How about this unbelievable bit about the dictators at IB who listen to Brad and Simon allowed ANdy one post thru them to respond to allegations that could potentially end his tuning career. COME ON PEOPLE!
You think this is fair?
Bashing him and not allowing him to respond - how about not closing this thread - Please Vic has closed threads for absolutely nothing and this thread remains open - anyone care to guess how long a thread against Evosport like this would last? 2 seconds? Maybe.
Before I forget - When was the last time anyone remembers Brad jumping in to support the claims of a completely anonymous unknown guy who just joined here and makes outrageous slanderus comments about a sponsor. That answer folks would be zero. Now one more thing - Andy is about to release his header and full exhaust for 6k - anyone check the price on Evosports full header and exhaust for the 63? that would be 13k.
YEs thats more than double the price. WHy hasnt anyone cried RIPOFF to that? ANdys tune at $4500 is a ripoff but their exhaust at 13k isnt?
OK.
Could it be that if you applied my principle of MONEY being the bottom line you could see that this could be a disaster for Evosport and their charging practices?
Am i the only person here that sees this?
This is much more than whether Andys tune is good or not or whether he flashes or tunes TCU's - I think this should be quite apparent now.
Now Im going to copy this so when it gets taken down i can repost at
Absolutelydriven and 6Speed. Watch out for those snakes....

chiromikey

i know everyone is interested...so the "other" side of the story is posted on the absolutely driven forum.

LZH

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Interesting list of viewers we have this evening....

Mikey - I also find it interesting that after all your negativity and doubt of MHP's ability from day one here....you seem to be supportive of him now over on the absltlydrvn site.

Anyway, just kinda thinking out loud....this is bigger than us or our collective opinions now. I'm really at a loss for words. I hope the truth comes out.

BalboaIslanddud

AMGSC,

Is Vadim using Powerchip software or VRP? I am wondering if one of those tuners came come on board. I spoke with Travis at PC. He told me Andy was a fraud and Jessie Diakus whom stole powerchip software was the one that blew up the HPS cars not the hardware. That would include your buddy with the CL55. I tend to believe Travis whom tuned my buddies 03 e55 AMG. Without any CL or problems.

Hope your project is working for you!

BalboaIslanddud

Hate to admit, we all don't have a life.

BalboaIslanddud

I think Tim is a fraud and a loser. A guy with 1 post bad mouthing. If anything, why can't he post his information for all of us to check out. That would include name, address, company information, and direct line. Let us see if he is legit or not

LZH

Not a bad idea...at least it would demonstrate his authenticity and help us all make a decision one way or the other.

hooleyboy

I hate to admit it but i was not viewing the thread at that time, I was searching for an E55 fuel rail on google.

I think we need to let this thread go to the wasteland. Nothing good will come from this thread and only leave a bunch of members and sponsors hating each other. I'm done setting my DVR for this thread. We should all go back to our respected forum sections and talk cars.

SebringSilver

I have a life. I'm only on here because the **** site is temporarily down.

nlpamg

link or ban.

SebringSilver

And corrupt all the innocent minds here? I have a conscience, sir.

chiromikey

actually, if you go all the way back to day one, i was completely on mhp's side...it wasn't until later that i changed my perspective.

as far as this situation goes, i'm not involved except as an observer and am therefor neither supportive nor antagonistic. as you quite rightly said, "this is bigger than us or our collective opinions now".

indyjoe

Dr. Jones, Andy, whomever, please don't use my name in your defense. Andy may very well be getting screwed here, but to say that he didn't have it coming..........well, sadly he brought most of this on himself.

I honestly wish that someone would be honest about TCU tuning because what I get from the member that actually watched TCU's get tuned by AMG representatives is that you can't tune the TCU via the ECU. That this has to be done through the port in the car. So, a MAIL IN ECU could not "tune" the TCU. However, you can adjust some parameters within the ECU that the TCU will adapt to. So, have all the other tuners all of a sudden figured out how to do TCU tuning, or did they just realize what MHP was doing, and that there was a demand for this?

I don't know the answers. What I do know is that everyone that got a MHP tune was saying how different (faster, harder) the shifting was, and how great the car performed. Everyone that used MHP was defending Andy like it was 'their' company. Now what?

Rock

A must read!!! There really are two sides to this story. After reading this thread and Andy's response on Absolutely Driven, I'm beginning to think he is being treated unfairly. Unfortunately, I'd guess that Andy has brought on this firestorm by his aggressive nature on this board (pissed off the wrong people) and now the carnage has begun.

Jrcart, how is Andy's tune the greatest for months with you and others breaking numerous records and heaping continuous praise on MHP and now all of a sudden we have a problem? Your cryptic responses are unfair to MHP and this community. You would have been better off not saying anything until you can actually provide some useful information.

I know nothing about the ECU/TCU tuning debate and what is actually manipulated with the MHP tune but Andy did provide a tune that showed performance gains on both the dyno and the track, at least for the 63.

If you are going to keep this thread open and continue to crucify Andy, at least be decent enough to allow him back on to defend himself.

otoupalik

Doctor Jones = JT55.

That 2nd user is now banned for posting under alias, against the TOU.

Just so that everyone is clear, the allegations that he puts forth are 100% fiction, and can be supported as such in any court in the country. I will tell you that Andy threatens to sue everyone that says anything against him. He has threatened me, IB, other sponsors and many customers of his. This is why you do not see more info posted - people are scared. That will likley change as more people come forward.

FYI, At this point I see no reason to delete that post as many thought would happen as it is unsupportable and frankly, MBWorld and evosport have nothing to hide from. This thread is about something that may or may not be very real to customers from a sponsor. That is why is is open. There could be a lot of people who are effected and not allowing this to be discussed would not benefit the community as a whole.

Also, for those that do not know Tim - Google him or PM him.

Thanks
Brad

otoupalik

As I have said many times, Andy was allowed to reply, and he chose to only offer a bit about tuning via the OBD2 port.

Rock

Damn, don't ban him......... that guy was funny as hell.

This place is getting a bit frightening and heavy handed.

BTW, can Dr Jones at least stay?