What does Andy @ MPH really know or do?
02-11-2009, 09:33 AM
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One thing I know for sure, there are some real low life's out there and the truth is only just starting to come out. Certain people/companies on here should be ashamed of themselves and they will get what is coming to them for their roles in this mess... MB World should be cautious who it hitches its' caboose too.
02-11-2009, 09:43 AM
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I find Tim's claim's plausible, on my thread "why 451 hp?" I asked specifically what is the difference between the 63's engines. I wrote it basically to MHP, and I was disappointed he didn't add anything insightful. But Tim here actually gave me the stuff I was expecting, in the beginning of this thread where he talks about throttle positions. Makes sense, thanks Tim.
02-11-2009, 09:43 AM
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Doctor Jones = JT55.
That 2nd user is now banned for posting under alias, against the TOU.
Just so that everyone is clear, the allegations that he puts forth are 100% fiction, and can be supported as such in any court in the country. I will tell you that Andy threatens to sue everyone that says anything against him. He has threatened me, IB, other sponsors and many customers of his. This is why you do not see more info posted - people are scared. That will likley change as more people come forward.
FYI, At this point I see no reason to delete that post as many thought would happen as it is unsupportable and frankly, MBWorld and evosport have nothing to hide from. This thread is about something that may or may not be very real to customers from a sponsor. That is why is is open. There could be a lot of people who are effected and not allowing this to be discussed would not benefit the community as a whole.
Also, for those that do not know Tim - Google him or PM him.
Thanks
Brad
That 2nd user is now banned for posting under alias, against the TOU.
Just so that everyone is clear, the allegations that he puts forth are 100% fiction, and can be supported as such in any court in the country. I will tell you that Andy threatens to sue everyone that says anything against him. He has threatened me, IB, other sponsors and many customers of his. This is why you do not see more info posted - people are scared. That will likley change as more people come forward.
FYI, At this point I see no reason to delete that post as many thought would happen as it is unsupportable and frankly, MBWorld and evosport have nothing to hide from. This thread is about something that may or may not be very real to customers from a sponsor. That is why is is open. There could be a lot of people who are effected and not allowing this to be discussed would not benefit the community as a whole.
Also, for those that do not know Tim - Google him or PM him.
Thanks
Brad
JT55, you owe me.
02-11-2009, 09:44 AM
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Doctor Jones = JT55.
That 2nd user is now banned for posting under alias, against the TOU.
Just so that everyone is clear, the allegations that he puts forth are 100% fiction, and can be supported as such in any court in the country. I will tell you that Andy threatens to sue everyone that says anything against him. He has threatened me, IB, other sponsors and many customers of his. This is why you do not see more info posted - people are scared. That will likley change as more people come forward.
FYI, At this point I see no reason to delete that post as many thought would happen as it is unsupportable and frankly, MBWorld and evosport have nothing to hide from. This thread is about something that may or may not be very real to customers from a sponsor. That is why is is open. There could be a lot of people who are effected and not allowing this to be discussed would not benefit the community as a whole.
Also, for those that do not know Tim - Google him or PM him.
Thanks
Brad
That 2nd user is now banned for posting under alias, against the TOU.
Just so that everyone is clear, the allegations that he puts forth are 100% fiction, and can be supported as such in any court in the country. I will tell you that Andy threatens to sue everyone that says anything against him. He has threatened me, IB, other sponsors and many customers of his. This is why you do not see more info posted - people are scared. That will likley change as more people come forward.
FYI, At this point I see no reason to delete that post as many thought would happen as it is unsupportable and frankly, MBWorld and evosport have nothing to hide from. This thread is about something that may or may not be very real to customers from a sponsor. That is why is is open. There could be a lot of people who are effected and not allowing this to be discussed would not benefit the community as a whole.
Also, for those that do not know Tim - Google him or PM him.
Thanks
Brad
I have a lot of respect for Evo, and have been a huge detractor of MHP, but this just seems really shady. I hope you can understand that.
02-11-2009, 09:49 AM
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Orlando Florida - yesterday 2/9/09. Temps were in the high 70's. All these runs came from the new MHP tune. Back to back runs with some delay between a few. All in all probably done in an hour long process. The last two were made right behind each other when the car was the hottest and it made the most power. I'm just sharing what my results were. If you have similar results then you are making good power also. Any other questions?
02-11-2009, 09:50 AM
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02-11-2009, 09:54 AM
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02-11-2009, 09:58 AM
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I didn't think that was any kind of secret? I recommend RENN or Brabus to anyone who asks, Kleeman for BASIC V6 stuff (their V8 superchargers are garbage), and Lorinser (for bodywork).
My message here: try to keep things to "the big 3". A money-back warranty is pretty worthless if you lose an engine/tranny - you'd better have a good company standing behind that!
My message here: try to keep things to "the big 3". A money-back warranty is pretty worthless if you lose an engine/tranny - you'd better have a good company standing behind that!
02-11-2009, 10:26 AM
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Is anyone else getting exactly ZERO done at work today because of this thread?
I'm gonna need I.B. to reimburse my employer because I'm feeling very guilty about this.
Please PM me for my paypal address and I'll forward your payment along to them.
I'm gonna need I.B. to reimburse my employer because I'm feeling very guilty about this.
Please PM me for my paypal address and I'll forward your payment along to them.
02-11-2009, 10:35 AM
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Does it matter what its called? TOmato - Tumato - same thing to me.
Tune/Flash - are we splittig hairs over terms. The facts remain that Andy said that you would get raised shift points - CHeck! (according to those that have it) and firmer shifts - CHeck! so far I fail to see the fraud here?
ANyone?
If ANdy is frauding people by calling it a flash instead of a tune -Ok.
And if the tune is indeed too expensive and your getting ripped off - Ok again - dont buy it.
Tune/Flash - are we splittig hairs over terms. The facts remain that Andy said that you would get raised shift points - CHeck! (according to those that have it) and firmer shifts - CHeck! so far I fail to see the fraud here?
ANyone?
If ANdy is frauding people by calling it a flash instead of a tune -Ok.
And if the tune is indeed too expensive and your getting ripped off - Ok again - dont buy it.
Let me say first off that I have absolutely NO BEEF with Andy, MHP, Evosport or any other tuner...nor I am affiliated with any of them. I'm just a consumer looking for the best possible "tune" out there for my beloved C63 (i.e. the most bang for the buck I can get).
It seems like u and certain others who are supporting Andy while he's unable to post here (and rightfully so) are missing a critical point: Andy claimed that he could "tune" the TCU...and used this not only as a MAJOR selling point for his product, but also to justify the hefty premium he was charging over his competitors. If this is not true (and I'm giving everyone the benefit of the doubt here), then that's a problem to me.
Is his product great? Sure seems like it.
Does it perform better than the others? Various members' results seem to indicate that.
Can we choose to ignore his claims and not buy his product? Sure.
Is it fair and ethical to say u can do something no one else can, not do it...and then charge consumers a premium for something that doesn't exist? I think we all know the answer to that one.
I for one am anxiously awaiting Andy's side of the story. I believe he at least deserves that. Aside from the above, I like what I've seen and heard from him so far. But I defnitely don't like being lied to. And I suspect everyone else on here feels the same way.
02-11-2009, 10:45 AM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
Brad, don't you think this whole thing smells pretty fishy? As you know, I've never liked Andy, and never believed the hype, but it was so coincindental that right after Jim's Cali trip he decides to do a complete 180 on Andy and MHP. I mean, I came up with the Evosport getting ahold of MHP's tune before Andy even mentioned it.
I have a lot of respect for Evo, and have been a huge detractor of MHP, but this just seems really shady. I hope you can understand that.
I have a lot of respect for Evo, and have been a huge detractor of MHP, but this just seems really shady. I hope you can understand that.
Evosport is not a material party in all of this, but we have seen first hand a few things that make me sick. I came into this industry to make it fun and be better then the shops that I was using when I was a kid. All of my partners and I gave up 6-figure salaries to do this company. We have advanced degrees from top schools and we were in the professional world. Seeing what has happened to a few people disappointments me and saddens me that our industry is like that, and more so that people will defend what they don't know based on assumption, hearsay and a justification of their spending.
Personally, I work off of facts. I believe half of what I hear and question what I see. But when you forensically direct problematic issues and all the arrows point the same direction, it becomes compelling.
It is not my story to tell, but it will be told I suspect shortly and it should clarify a lot of the questions that people have.
As for who people should believe, well I guess that is a hard one. I tend to look at people who post with REAL names, people who have LONG established ties to the industry and to look at the motivation of people.
I am not sure how this turned into an evosport v. MHP thing, as it is hardly that. We are not a software tuner or provider. We re-sell Powerchip. I don't have a dog in this hunt. And in fact, JRCart bought Powerchip software a LONG time ago, and as a Powerchip customer, you can always get the latest tune for a re-flash fee of $100-150. He has chosen to do that, and he can tell you why.
It also is not a Powerchip/Renntech/LET/etc v. MHP thing. Nobody is using this thread to promote another source. This thread was started by someone speaking about their findings on ONE vendor.
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02-11-2009, 10:51 AM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
02-11-2009, 10:54 AM
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Brad is right here. I just received a private message from YNOT600 - Stating the following:
Would you be willing to sign an affa davit stating what you posted on the forum regarding what was said about me by the powerchip employee?
I don't want to offend you if he's your friend, but I have to ask. This thread has gone way beyond the net at this point.
Thanks and apologies if I offended you.
I will not sign any affa davit about anyone. This is a public forum. Everyone including evosport, Kleemann, brabus, hps, renntech, powerchip have been bashed.
After reading this I think MHP is a fraud!
02-11-2009, 11:00 AM
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02-11-2009, 11:36 AM
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This is getting old, can't we bash someone new. How about Roger Penske?
I am just wondering if we will have any people left to post that are not on probation.
I am just wondering if we will have any people left to post that are not on probation.
02-11-2009, 11:37 AM
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Here is my story on the situation. I will try to answer question to the best of my ability.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...est-story.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...est-story.html
02-11-2009, 11:43 AM
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This is great, just like some kind of harlequin romance novel with a little Morry Povich thrown in for good measure.
KEEP THE HATE ALIVE!!!!
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02-11-2009, 12:03 PM
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Well, I know one thing for certain - when/if my C63 order works out, I can gaurantee I won't be buying ANYthing from ANY sponsor on this board as I don't know who to believe at this point. Things look suspect from every angle as far as I can read what with all the innuendo over he said/she said, proprietary insider information, and just the whole mechanism of how all this is playing out.
02-11-2009, 12:06 PM
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Here is my story on the situation. I will try to answer question to the best of my ability.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...est-story.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...est-story.html
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02-11-2009, 12:24 PM
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ones too fast according to CHP!
I didn't think that was any kind of secret? I recommend RENN or Brabus to anyone who asks, Kleeman for BASIC V6 stuff (their V8 superchargers are garbage), and Lorinser (for bodywork).
My message here: try to keep things to "the big 3". A money-back warranty is pretty worthless if you lose an engine/tranny - you'd better have a good company standing behind that!
My message here: try to keep things to "the big 3". A money-back warranty is pretty worthless if you lose an engine/tranny - you'd better have a good company standing behind that!
Again, please let people know who you are. Posting as a customer recommending them to your company is not acceptable.
