What does Andy @ MPH really know or do?
02-09-2009, 08:30 PM
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Tim, Andy would like for you to call him directly at 614 940 9523 (his number is all over the net btw). He also told me to post some answers and corrections they are copied and pasted from an email he sent me.
"Tim, I have no idea who you are. I tried to pull up info on you/EFI solutions and have found no contact info or website. From what I can tell you tune Fords/Chevys.
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I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. As any of our customers will tell you they have to send their ECU/TCUs in for us to flash. We will eventulally have a remote tool available (as I'm sure others will as well) but not in the immediate future.
As for the last part of the statement above highlighted in bold, how else would we tune a customers ECU/TCU, email it to them? What would they use to flash the file? You make no sense whatsoever.
Being that we've kicked out FOUR v3 tunes (mthis, jrcart, java, and DadsC63) how the hell did you get your hands on one? None of them dyno'd 376rw stock and none dyno'd 407rw after. I love it when people suspect or assume...
We've NEVER claimed 80rw gains, on our site we claim 60 flywheel even though we've made 64rw peak gain (not peak to peak, going from 373 to 436rw SAE on straight 93) and many others have had similar gains: mthis 421rw, DadsC63 449rw (more to come with his since he has headers), jrcart 525rw, Andrey Kravchenko 435rw (dyno dynamics). In addition we have the 2 quickest/fastest C63s (soon to be 3) in the world, quickest/fastest CLK63 BS's, both power adder and N/A, N/A M6, and soon to be Lexus IS-F.
"On Notice"??? LOL, We're shaking in our Keds that a reverse engineer (aka theif) will now be going through our cals. 
Feel free, we have nothing to hide and the dyno/track restults as well as our customer testimony negate anything you can possibly dream up or "suspect".
We have nothing against that whatsoever unless you copy our calibrations and sell them or use them to your benefit.
Tim, I've been on the net dealing with people like you (those that assume and run their mouths) for over a decade. I haven't gone anywhere, nor will I despite your best efforts. Again I know nothing of you, and I've never even spoken to you. All I can find out about who you are is that you're a Chevy/Ford tuner, we'll see how far that gets you around here, LOL. IIRC you used to be affiliated with Modular Powerhouse? That's great and all but it still means nothing compared to the actual results we've delivered.
As for your doubts about what we do with the TCU, how exactly do we raise shift points? Increase shift firmness, raise stall converter speed, eliminate TCU based TM, eliminate over 80% of the adaptive learning, etc? Feel free to contact: jrcart, JT55, mthis, DadsC63, rarfinancial, Fr33ken63, Jackpro1, C32AMGDTM, etc and ask them their feelings on our TCU tuning--as in is it real and does it work. The resounding answer (since you obviously don't know how to use the search function) is YES.
Honestly if you really knew what you claim to you'd be tuning MBs instead of attacking others that already are now wouldn't you?
As I've told you and others, open the 7G TCU up and you'll find a bunch of solenoids that require the TCU portion of the ECU to command them. Go ahead and rip those trannys apart and see what you get.
Anyway, to summarize, I don't know who you are, or why you felt the need to post misinformation (more like BS) about us and our products. If you think you have something better to offer meet us at MIR on March 1st and we'll race heads up. Otherwise you can call me anytime to talk and fill me in on exactly what your deal/issues are.
Though by the looks of the rest of your posts you're obviously working with a competitor and or preparing to bring out your own tuning (BEST of luck with that
) so you should really look into becoming a legit paying sponsor.
Finally I spoke to Dave about the accusations you've made above that involve him and he laughed so hard he almost had to pull over (driving). Evidently you've got a bone to pick because he wouldn't share info with you??? Grow up.
Thanks
Andy"
Andy,
You can fool some of the people all of the time, you can also fool all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.
You have dragged my name and information through the mud enough; it has come time to call you out. This will be my only post, so there is no need to reply with anything to attempt to save face, I will not respond.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, you can also fool all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.
You have dragged my name and information through the mud enough; it has come time to call you out. This will be my only post, so there is no need to reply with anything to attempt to save face, I will not respond.
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I have probably been reverse engineering automotive pcms longer than you knew what they are. I am not new to this at all. You have regurgitated information that you have gotten from Dave Kasper, and Dave Kasper has got from me during a phone conversation about providing Dave with a flash device, so that his customers would not be required to send their pcm in. I had told Dave about reflash protection that ONLY Bosch can generate. Dave told you , you told a potential customer and that customer repeated back to me. Some of the details were wrong as a result of going through three people before it got back to me but the fundamental story was the same. Dave Kasper boasts having the ability to generate the necessary key to pass the protection method. If this were true, he would have a capability not intrusted to Mercedes, AMG or GM. Yes, GM is using the ME97 ecu as well. Bosch supplies development ecus to the manufactures for calibration development but the final files that are distributed to dealers are all protected and ONLY Bosch can provide the protection key. Dave is not generating these keys. If he were, there would be no need for customers to send him ecus. It is literally that simple.
As for the last part of the statement above highlighted in bold, how else would we tune a customers ECU/TCU, email it to them? What would they use to flash the file? You make no sense whatsoever.
Now my friend has dynode his car stock today and a car with an ecu tuned by you. The difference was 31 RWHP. What happened to the 80+ RWHP you have promised?? The 407 RWHP he got from your “Stage III” tune is exactly what a stock E63 gets so I suspect Dave has simply placed an E63 or similar file on the C63 as they have the throttle fully opened where the C63 is throttle limited. I think the rest of the world needs to know that there is a lot more in the ecu than just opening the throttle and real tuners use this to generate more power.
We've NEVER claimed 80rw gains, on our site we claim 60 flywheel even though we've made 64rw peak gain (not peak to peak, going from 373 to 436rw SAE on straight 93) and many others have had similar gains: mthis 421rw, DadsC63 449rw (more to come with his since he has headers), jrcart 525rw, Andrey Kravchenko 435rw (dyno dynamics). In addition we have the 2 quickest/fastest C63s (soon to be 3) in the world, quickest/fastest CLK63 BS's, both power adder and N/A, N/A M6, and soon to be Lexus IS-F.
You and Dave are now on notice; we will get some of your flashed ecu’s. We will read them in an attempt to prove our theory that your customers are buying nothing more than a stock Mercedes file. Either way, we will post the results. Now as to what you might say about copyrighted information. Calibration data is not copyrightable, If you think it is, sue me and see who wins. I have already been down this road a few times, and I know the directions quite well.
Feel free, we have nothing to hide and the dyno/track restults as well as our customer testimony negate anything you can possibly dream up or "suspect".
As an alternative, customers need only log OBDii data from their cars and compare mixture, timing and throttle angle between a stock C63, stock E or S63 and your product. If the only difference is throttle opening then they will know that no real effort was put into the “tune”.
Now for the TCU being inside the ECU. That is entirely false and an outright LIE. You will notice in the attached pictures that even the factory Mercedes repair information shows the TCU inside the transmission, just as I have told my friend. You told him that I was basically a fool. Who is the real fool?? There are some shift timers and desired shift times in the ECU, but this is relayed via the CAN bus. So unless the customer is shipping the entire transmission to you, how are you giving them a TCU reflash?? Sounds to me like you owe some refunds to your customers. You might want to refer to the documentation before letting the bile spill from your mouth. I have seen many like you before, you get a little bit of information, and you spread it and attempt to make yourself appear as “The Man”. I have news for you, I have ran across your type many times before, and I am still in business long after they have went bankrupt.
As for your doubts about what we do with the TCU, how exactly do we raise shift points? Increase shift firmness, raise stall converter speed, eliminate TCU based TM, eliminate over 80% of the adaptive learning, etc? Feel free to contact: jrcart, JT55, mthis, DadsC63, rarfinancial, Fr33ken63, Jackpro1, C32AMGDTM, etc and ask them their feelings on our TCU tuning--as in is it real and does it work. The resounding answer (since you obviously don't know how to use the search function) is YES.
Honestly if you really knew what you claim to you'd be tuning MBs instead of attacking others that already are now wouldn't you?
As I've told you and others, open the 7G TCU up and you'll find a bunch of solenoids that require the TCU portion of the ECU to command them. Go ahead and rip those trannys apart and see what you get.
Anyway, to summarize, I don't know who you are, or why you felt the need to post misinformation (more like BS) about us and our products. If you think you have something better to offer meet us at MIR on March 1st and we'll race heads up. Otherwise you can call me anytime to talk and fill me in on exactly what your deal/issues are.
Though by the looks of the rest of your posts you're obviously working with a competitor and or preparing to bring out your own tuning (BEST of luck with that
) so you should really look into becoming a legit paying sponsor. Finally I spoke to Dave about the accusations you've made above that involve him and he laughed so hard he almost had to pull over (driving). Evidently you've got a bone to pick because he wouldn't share info with you??? Grow up.
Thanks
Andy"
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02-09-2009, 08:31 PM
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P:S. i know how and i got a diff number then him.
02-09-2009, 08:52 PM
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Mr. Moderator,
Why would you allow an individual to create an entire thread including the name just to attack someone personally? This forum should have better control of crapp like this. It shouldn't be allowed no matter who it is, especially a sponsor.
Why would you allow an individual to create an entire thread including the name just to attack someone personally? This forum should have better control of crapp like this. It shouldn't be allowed no matter who it is, especially a sponsor.
02-09-2009, 09:06 PM
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So much for standing up for the sponsor (the guy who pays money, remember). BTW, if this is my last post because I am kicked, it's been fun.
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02-09-2009, 09:36 PM
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You mean let it adapt to your fuel? A good tune doesn't "break in" If your car is leaning on the Long Term and short term adaptations then it wasn't done correctly. Those numbers should ALWAYS be close to zero
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If Tim came here JUST to enlighten all of us members and tell us how Andy has been lying to us, scamming people etc that would be one thing - and appreciated. But what is not appreciated, is he clearly said the reason he is here is becasue someone told him Andy called him a fool. Seems to me that sort of personal BS needs to be addressed in private and not on a public forum. What is also very suspect is the fact that Tim works for MHP's competitors and that makes his post here even more unethical.
If you want to be taken seriously, and in the effort of full disclosure...you need to tell us who you are and who you work for.
If you want to be taken seriously, and in the effort of full disclosure...you need to tell us who you are and who you work for.
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02-09-2009, 09:42 PM
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02-09-2009, 09:42 PM
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i dont know maybe its my car, or i got a speacial car or something anyway i like it 
thanks MHP you did a great job
02-09-2009, 09:43 PM
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If Tim came here JUST to enlighten all of us members and tell us how Andy has been lying to us, scamming people etc that would be one thing - and appreciated. But what is not appreciated, is he clearly said the reason he is here is becasue someone told him Andy called him a fool. Seems to me that sort of personal BS needs to be addressed in private and not on a public forum.
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If Tim came here JUST to enlighten all of us members and tell us how Andy has been lying to us, scamming people etc that would be one thing - and appreciated. But what is not appreciated, is he clearly said the reason he is here is becasue someone told him Andy called him a fool. Seems to me that sort of personal BS needs to be addressed in private and not on a public forum. What is also very suspect is the fact that Tim works for MHP's competitors and that makes his post here even more unethical.
If you want to be taken seriously, and in the effort of full disclosure...you need to tell us who you are and who you work for.
If you want to be taken seriously, and in the effort of full disclosure...you need to tell us who you are and who you work for.
What I have done here is enlighten everyone what is going on. If I would have told the NYSE about Enron deal before it happened, they would have been happy. And now I am not promoting or saying that any of you should go to any shop to get your car tuned. Go where ever you please. But now you can go armed with the facts.
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02-09-2009, 10:07 PM
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That's more like it....
The "I heard from a guy that Andy called me a fool" bit was not necessary. If you go back and look at my past threads regarding this, you will see that I in fact questioned Andy about how exactly the TCU is tuned VIA THE ECU and it's been discussed before - many times. If that is your only beef with MHP tuning, it's a valid one and a point well taken as we all know the TCU is buried in the transmission. But, to say that MHP is simply giving C63 owners the factory tune/tables from a STOCK S63 or CL63 is, well, a bit of a reach and if you are wrong you are gonna have mud on your face and a heafty lawsuit. Sure, you might win...but it's gonna be money out of your pocket for no reason.
I look forward to seeing these results ASAP.
The "I heard from a guy that Andy called me a fool" bit was not necessary. If you go back and look at my past threads regarding this, you will see that I in fact questioned Andy about how exactly the TCU is tuned VIA THE ECU and it's been discussed before - many times. If that is your only beef with MHP tuning, it's a valid one and a point well taken as we all know the TCU is buried in the transmission. But, to say that MHP is simply giving C63 owners the factory tune/tables from a STOCK S63 or CL63 is, well, a bit of a reach and if you are wrong you are gonna have mud on your face and a heafty lawsuit. Sure, you might win...but it's gonna be money out of your pocket for no reason.
I look forward to seeing these results ASAP.
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Hey what this guy does kinda makes sense. It seems like the c63 guys are happy with their tunes but Ive been doin my research and most of the complains ive read are from E class owners and clks too. Then there is Famoso, where MHP claimed their tune for a e55 was going to "kill" and "rip off mikeys bumper" couldnt even make a pass. Im not at all condoning whats going on, im just saying Tim does have some evidence backing what hes saying. I think alot of people just have a tough time admitting they dont know much about cars or admitting they got scammed and paying a whole lot of money for something they could have got cheaper elsewhere. The proof is in the pudding MHP tunes can make an improvement in HP but not for everybody.
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02-09-2009, 10:12 PM
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) to elaborate on why an ECU tune on the 6.2l needs to be "broken in" in order to get the "full benefit." I hadn't heard this until MHP's customers said so.
