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Quick question for the 'more experienced' C63 AMG drivers...
If you want to 'test' out your (non PP, non-LSD) C63 AMG and do a couple runs with your accelerometer (or at the track), what ESP setting do you use...ESP auto (if that's even a setting), on, sport, or off?
What are the differences?
I did a couple runs without touching the ESP button (whoops, I forgot to switch it
) and obviously got major intervention, bogging, and some seriously bad times, lol.
Thanks.
If you want to 'test' out your (non PP, non-LSD) C63 AMG and do a couple runs with your accelerometer (or at the track), what ESP setting do you use...ESP auto (if that's even a setting), on, sport, or off?
What are the differences?I did a couple runs without touching the ESP button (whoops, I forgot to switch it
) and obviously got major intervention, bogging, and some seriously bad times, lol.Thanks.
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best thing to get to know your vehicle is to test out all 3 settings when at a track with a controlled environment.. esp on, sports and off..
esp sports has a higher tolerance level than esp on, where the computer kicks in to ensure that your vehicle does not slide left, right and center at higher speeds..
having esp off = pure driver skills and confidence is required to handle the vehicle..
take your time to you know your C63.. try out some advance driving lessons too.. you'll appreciate the engineering better that way
just my 2 cents worth..
esp sports has a higher tolerance level than esp on, where the computer kicks in to ensure that your vehicle does not slide left, right and center at higher speeds..
having esp off = pure driver skills and confidence is required to handle the vehicle..
take your time to you know your C63.. try out some advance driving lessons too.. you'll appreciate the engineering better that way
just my 2 cents worth..
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best thing to get to know your vehicle is to test out all 3 settings when at a track with a controlled environment.. esp on, sports and off..
esp sports has a higher tolerance level than esp on, where the computer kicks in to ensure that your vehicle does not slide left, right and center at higher speeds..
having esp off = pure driver skills and confidence is required to handle the vehicle..
take your time to you know your C63.. try out some advance driving lessons too.. you'll appreciate the engineering better that way
just my 2 cents worth..
esp sports has a higher tolerance level than esp on, where the computer kicks in to ensure that your vehicle does not slide left, right and center at higher speeds..
having esp off = pure driver skills and confidence is required to handle the vehicle..
take your time to you know your C63.. try out some advance driving lessons too.. you'll appreciate the engineering better that way
just my 2 cents worth..
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Yes, well, in my tuned BMW 335i, the best way to launch was to push the DTC button one quick time to put traction control "on," which does turn it on but also raises the threshold for intervention. So, there was a little wheel spin, but it would quickly gain traction and giddy-up. ;-) If I turned DTC completely "off," it would only spin like crazy and get no traction for a bad launch. I just wanted to know if this is similar in the C63 while ESP is in the "sport" setting.
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Yes, well, in my tuned BMW 335i, the best way to launch was to push the DTC button one quick time to put traction control "on," which does turn it on but also raises the threshold for intervention. So, there was a little wheel spin, but it would quickly gain traction and giddy-up. ;-) If I turned DTC completely "off," it would only spin like crazy and get no traction for a bad launch. I just wanted to know if this is similar in the C63 while ESP is in the "sport" setting.
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Interesting...on mine (09 model bought in Canada), the break pedal does not switch on the ESP. It keeps its setting (off or sport). Do you think it's because in an 09 model or because it's a Canadian edition?
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I played with the ESP setting today and after a few tests, it is quite clear that the brake pedal does not change the ESP setting. It is the most obvious if you turn it off. After breaking, I can still get the wheels to spin, something I can't do if the ESP is on. I reread the manual and understood that if the brake HARD, the ESP turns on while you brake.
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My 2 cents.
I have been so completly out of control with my car in esp OFF mode. Fishtailing like a *&%$ and thought I would be in the wall. I tried everything I know to straighten it , gasing it, stearing, everything, and NO LUCK wall coming quick. I did a hard brake complete to the floor, and stright wheel and the car came around. It straightned up and came to a good safe stop. To me it did seem the ESP kicked on or something helped to correct the car to straighten up and stop fishtailing. After I got the car stopped I did floor it and the tires broke loose again and the ESP was off and could tell it was off. Even under hard braking the ESP will go back to its set position you selected. If it changes to "on" under critical situations, like A$$ savers, I am not sure but sure seems like it, but will go back to preselected modes. Thats just my observation. Maybe more expeiranced drivers can say more.
Be safe.
I have been so completly out of control with my car in esp OFF mode. Fishtailing like a *&%$ and thought I would be in the wall. I tried everything I know to straighten it , gasing it, stearing, everything, and NO LUCK wall coming quick. I did a hard brake complete to the floor, and stright wheel and the car came around. It straightned up and came to a good safe stop. To me it did seem the ESP kicked on or something helped to correct the car to straighten up and stop fishtailing. After I got the car stopped I did floor it and the tires broke loose again and the ESP was off and could tell it was off. Even under hard braking the ESP will go back to its set position you selected. If it changes to "on" under critical situations, like A$$ savers, I am not sure but sure seems like it, but will go back to preselected modes. Thats just my observation. Maybe more expeiranced drivers can say more.
Be safe.
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Yes normal braking does not turn ESP back on. Even puttin gin park or revers does not turn it back on. Only thing to reactivate the ESP from OFF mode is to phyisicly turn it on or shut the engine off and then restart it again.
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Must be an 08 thing. My ESP stays off even after breaks are applied. If your saying its on during the duration the break pedal is pressed I have no way to verify other than the manual of course and I didn't read that anywhere.
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Agree. It must be an 08 thing. Many reviews criticized this fact at the time. They may have fixed it in the 09 version. In my 09, even though the dash board does not show it is off during hard breaking, according to the manual, the ESP may be working but there's no way to tell unless you can reach the point that you can feel it or go through a painful experience like pmknapp.
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If you hit the brakes while spinning the tires the ESP will come on and safe you. ESP doesn't stay on though, it continues to stay off.
ESP ON - Wont allow spinning of the tires and controls engine torque in tight turns.
ESP SPORT - Will allow the back end to spin slightly, but not out of control.
ESP OFF - Will allow you to spin continuously. If the brakes are hit during a spin or while the back end is out hard, it will kick in then go back off once your off the brakes.
I drive with ESP off all the time.
You definitely need ESP off at the track otherwise it will come on and wreck your times. Learn throttle control to stop wheel spin.
ESP ON - Wont allow spinning of the tires and controls engine torque in tight turns.
ESP SPORT - Will allow the back end to spin slightly, but not out of control.
ESP OFF - Will allow you to spin continuously. If the brakes are hit during a spin or while the back end is out hard, it will kick in then go back off once your off the brakes.
I drive with ESP off all the time.
You definitely need ESP off at the track otherwise it will come on and wreck your times. Learn throttle control to stop wheel spin.
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If you hit the brakes while spinning the tires the ESP will come on and safe you. ESP doesn't stay on though, it continues to stay off.
ESP ON - Wont allow spinning of the tires and controls engine torque in tight turns.
ESP SPORT - Will allow the back end to spin slightly, but not out of control.
ESP OFF - Will allow you to spin continuously. If the brakes are hit during a spin or while the back end is out hard, it will kick in then go back off once your off the brakes.
I drive with ESP off all the time.
You definitely need ESP off at the track otherwise it will come on and wreck your times. Learn throttle control to stop wheel spin.
ESP ON - Wont allow spinning of the tires and controls engine torque in tight turns.
ESP SPORT - Will allow the back end to spin slightly, but not out of control.
ESP OFF - Will allow you to spin continuously. If the brakes are hit during a spin or while the back end is out hard, it will kick in then go back off once your off the brakes.
I drive with ESP off all the time.
You definitely need ESP off at the track otherwise it will come on and wreck your times. Learn throttle control to stop wheel spin.
Be safe
