Dyno: Kleemann K1, "ROW" airbox, K&Ns
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Dyno: Kleemann K1, "ROW" airbox, K&Ns
Tony from Eurocharged ran the dyno (Dynojet) at the Eurocharged Vegas Tune Day. No baseline was ever run before the mods.
Mods:
-Kleemann K1
-"ROW" AMG airbox tops
-K&N filters w/charcoals removed
Conditions:
-65 degrees
-17% humidity (approx)
-2000 ft elevation (approx)
-1673 current mileage at dyno time
Max results after 3 pulls in 4th gear (SAE smoothing 5):
421.75 HP/384.30 TQ
It was good to meet you, Tony.
Mods:
-Kleemann K1
-"ROW" AMG airbox tops
-K&N filters w/charcoals removed
Conditions:
-65 degrees
-17% humidity (approx)
-2000 ft elevation (approx)
-1673 current mileage at dyno time
Max results after 3 pulls in 4th gear (SAE smoothing 5):
421.75 HP/384.30 TQ
It was good to meet you, Tony.
Last edited by Sincity; Mar 13, 2010 at 09:51 PM.
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My tuned numbers are pretty close to what you have (K1, filters, charcoals removed). I also noted that temp was close to the same, but our humidity is much lower and elevation is much higher.
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Vegas_AMG was about 7 less on HP and TQ with this Eurocharged tune. He is still using stock box and filters but without charcoals. He also doesn't have a baseline to compare to. No other C63s showed up. There was a CL65 putting down 605HP to the wheels, but I forgot what his TQ was.
605 to the wheels
what a beast.. Ok, so NOW we have your base line 
from here on out your clime begins.. Have some fun 
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Next time you go to that dyno, bring a USB flash drive. You can download the runfiles (even today's) and view them at home in WinPEP software (free from dynojet.com). This will allow you to play with the data and even see the actual uncorrected horsepower/torque from each run.
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Vegas_AMG was about 7 less on HP and TQ with this Eurocharged tune. He is still using stock box and filters but without charcoals. He also doesn't have a baseline to compare to. No other C63s showed up. There was a CL65 putting down 605HP to the wheels, but I forgot what his TQ was.
My tuned numbers are pretty close to what you have (K1, filters, charcoals removed). I also noted that temp was close to the same, but our humidity is much lower and elevation is much higher.
My tuned numbers are pretty close to what you have (K1, filters, charcoals removed). I also noted that temp was close to the same, but our humidity is much lower and elevation is much higher.
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My budget is nowhere as big as yours. I will be taking "baby" steps. Can't wait to see what power your new mods will net.
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Yep. Notice your SAE correction factor is much higher? (1.04 vs. 0.96) It adjusts your output based on the differences you mentioned above.
Next time you go to that dyno, bring a USB flash drive. You can download the runfiles (even today's) and view them at home in WinPEP software (free from dynojet.com). This will allow you to play with the data and even see the actual uncorrected horsepower/torque from each run.
Next time you go to that dyno, bring a USB flash drive. You can download the runfiles (even today's) and view them at home in WinPEP software (free from dynojet.com). This will allow you to play with the data and even see the actual uncorrected horsepower/torque from each run.
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So this would seem to indicate that the K1 and Eurocharged tune produce very similar HP results. You had 7HP more but you have K&N's and ROW. Interesting because I previously thought the K1 tune produced approx. 10HP more than Eurocharged. Great info - thanks for posting this.
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Yep. Notice your SAE correction factor is much higher? (1.04 vs. 0.96) It adjusts your output based on the differences you mentioned above.
Next time you go to that dyno, bring a USB flash drive. You can download the runfiles (even today's) and view them at home in WinPEP software (free from dynojet.com). This will allow you to play with the data and even see the actual uncorrected horsepower/torque from each run.
Next time you go to that dyno, bring a USB flash drive. You can download the runfiles (even today's) and view them at home in WinPEP software (free from dynojet.com). This will allow you to play with the data and even see the actual uncorrected horsepower/torque from each run.
A full 4th gear dyno run was performed with the parking brake on?
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So this would seem to indicate that the K1 and Eurocharged tune produce very similar HP results. You had 7HP more but you have K&N's and ROW. Interesting because I previously thought the K1 tune produced approx. 10HP more than Eurocharged. Great info - thanks for posting this.
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So this would seem to indicate that the K1 and Eurocharged tune produce very similar HP results. You had 7HP more but you have K&N's and ROW. Interesting because I previously thought the K1 tune produced approx. 10HP more than Eurocharged. Great info - thanks for posting this.
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Very true. It's interesting data and it's the first time I have seen/heard results of two different tunes done on the same dyno and the same day. Or are there other expamples of this? I've searched and couldn't find any direct comparisons.
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What's your opinion when comparing EC to K1? Is one better than the other? It's an honest question because I don't know and can't find any unbiased direct comparisons.
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Here is a post worth reading -> https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...iscussion.html
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"ROW" (Rest of World) box on right and NA (North America) on left:
Airbox: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...mystified.html
Airbox: https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...mystified.html
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In your opinion, are the ROW's worth it? Can you "feel" a difference? This is a mod that I am considering too but trying to decide if the cost ($500) justifies the gains (approx. 10HP?) Also, are MAS easy to take out and put into the new ROW airboxes?
Appreciate your feedback.
Appreciate your feedback.
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I cannot "feel" the difference per se. What I can tell you is that when I started the car up, the cold-start is just a little bit louder. A difference you can tell. The MAS/MAF is included with the new box tops.
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Vegas_AMG was about 7 less on HP and TQ with this Eurocharged tune. He is still using stock box and filters but without charcoals. He also doesn't have a baseline to compare to. No other C63s showed up. There was a CL65 putting down 605HP to the wheels, but I forgot what his TQ was.
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MAS/MAF included - good to know, thanks. Where did you buy your ROW's from? Price?
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