SUPERCHARGED m156, 63 amg !!!!
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
Don't forget about the cost to install this bad boy. Then your lookin at close to $20k installed (if you want it done right).
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
Apparently the Weistec test C63 has been running around SoCal with the blower installed for a while. I'm sure when they have more info and become a sponsor, they will post all the information, videos etc that everyone is waiting for.
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
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And since you obviously missed it...my post regarding cost was more so geared to get a response from Brad (since I saw him viewing this thread) and perhaps he'd slip up and leak a bit of info so we could extrapolate what might be included in the kit...but as usual he remains tight lipped, LOL.
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A2W - has downsides due to a finite volume of heatexchanger fluid mass.
The water in the system will slowly inc in temps under heavy use and in traffic without some extras...... extra he, extra reservoir...etc......
Other downsides of A2W:
1. added components, elec, mech, complexity
2. putting a water filled he in the intake flow path has it's own risks... and they do leak.
3. finite amount of he fluid media..... which will heat up over time VS infinite amb air.
Where-as the A2A has a infinite volume of fixed temp ambient air.
Downsides:
1. can be difficult to plumb in/out tubing... should be heat wrapped and mandrel bent to min psi loss
2. can have sig psi loss due to extra ftg of tubing, bends, and psi drop in large a2a he's..... I've seen 2-4psi of boost lost going from no he to a2a, but the cooler charge more than makes up for the psi loss.
There is no hard and fast rule in hot rodding....... each has it's application.
I'm pretty excited to see some serious mods coming rather than just bolt-on headers/air filter piping..... bring on some ported heads, strokers, and blowers!
The water in the system will slowly inc in temps under heavy use and in traffic without some extras...... extra he, extra reservoir...etc......
Other downsides of A2W:
1. added components, elec, mech, complexity
2. putting a water filled he in the intake flow path has it's own risks... and they do leak.
3. finite amount of he fluid media..... which will heat up over time VS infinite amb air.
Where-as the A2A has a infinite volume of fixed temp ambient air.
Downsides:
1. can be difficult to plumb in/out tubing... should be heat wrapped and mandrel bent to min psi loss
2. can have sig psi loss due to extra ftg of tubing, bends, and psi drop in large a2a he's..... I've seen 2-4psi of boost lost going from no he to a2a, but the cooler charge more than makes up for the psi loss.
There is no hard and fast rule in hot rodding....... each has it's application.
I'm pretty excited to see some serious mods coming rather than just bolt-on headers/air filter piping..... bring on some ported heads, strokers, and blowers!
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Yeah ok Akhmed, Brad already posted the approx/anticipated cost....Move along
And since you obviously missed it...my post regarding cost was more so geared to get a response from Brad (since I saw him viewing this thread) and perhaps he'd slip up and leak a bit of info so we could extrapolate what might be included in the kit...but as usual he remains tight lipped, LOL.
And since you obviously missed it...my post regarding cost was more so geared to get a response from Brad (since I saw him viewing this thread) and perhaps he'd slip up and leak a bit of info so we could extrapolate what might be included in the kit...but as usual he remains tight lipped, LOL.
Is that what you were trying to extrapolate?
5K... 2K...Whatever.. Total cost of 17K installed is probably not worth the HP gained.. I really want to see how much they are getting out of it first though. Better be 700rwhp for that price.
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Wow has anyone any info on this? Which supercharger would be better?
I want one asap!
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=877j-ufLfWY
www.weistec.com
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK4nFksfbRQ
www.xtra-power.com
I want one asap!
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=877j-ufLfWY
www.weistec.com
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK4nFksfbRQ
www.xtra-power.com
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Just curious if the CARB E.O that is pending for this kit will apply to all AMG 63 models?
For instance, when you read a CARB E.O., they usually state that the kit that was granted an E.O., must maintain the ECU tune that was submitted for testing.
I think the C63 comes with two available tunes from the factory: 1) non-P31 C63's and 2) P31 C63.
I'm not sure if you can upload a C63 tune to a P31 C63. Perhaps, you can, I just don't know.
So, I would love to find out how the CARB E.O. will work.
Basically, does a CARB E.O. that was granted for a non-P31 C63 apply equally to P31 C63?
And also, does a CARB E.O., that was granted for an E63 apply for one or both of the available C63's?
For instance, when you read a CARB E.O., they usually state that the kit that was granted an E.O., must maintain the ECU tune that was submitted for testing.
I think the C63 comes with two available tunes from the factory: 1) non-P31 C63's and 2) P31 C63.
I'm not sure if you can upload a C63 tune to a P31 C63. Perhaps, you can, I just don't know.
So, I would love to find out how the CARB E.O. will work.
Basically, does a CARB E.O. that was granted for a non-P31 C63 apply equally to P31 C63?
And also, does a CARB E.O., that was granted for an E63 apply for one or both of the available C63's?
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
I do agree with you however that for ~$17k or so, it's not worth it. The M156 was never meant to be blown, the transmission will most likely be ok in low boost applications thou...but you can get the same hp increase from bolt-ons that are much more reliable.
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5k for a supercharger install?? What are you guys smoking.... I'd say 15-20 hrs installation.
90-100/hr x 20 hrs = 2000, I'd say 3000 max. Unless your including the cost of gauges/gauge pod, tuning etc But it STILL wouldn't be 5k....
90-100/hr x 20 hrs = 2000, I'd say 3000 max. Unless your including the cost of gauges/gauge pod, tuning etc But it STILL wouldn't be 5k....
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Perhaps it takes longer for the 63 AMG's.
