ACG Build: C63 Weistec Stage 2
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I haven't looked yet but I will. The SLS has its own trans cooler complete with pump. Really it is an intercooler pump. I know the part number to the cooling pump on the SLS used in the transmission. I plan on using it for on supercharger intercooler pump. it flows a nice 10.56 GPM. I'll look into it right now. If this thread gets to involved about transmissions, I will just start a new thread with my findings. 
I have heard of a few in search of a cooling solution for the tranny at the track. I'm sure many in the C63 would be interested. Thanks for the answer though. Back to Jim's results!
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From looking at the images/drawing on both C63 and CLK63BS transmission coolers the CLK63BS seems to be bigger. I mean much taller. It looks to be about double the size of the trans cooler radiator on the C63.
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propain: the C63 and CLK63BS share essentially the same tranny AFAIK. Good info from MBH, some of the interior bits might be slightly different - no way to know if they're better, worse, or just different. No DCT though - only the SLS has a DCT in the MB model lineup. First-ever model to get one, I think.
One thing we do know is the TCU tuning is different - the CLK63BS doesn't have the rev-matched downshift programming that the C63 has.
One thing we do know is the TCU tuning is different - the CLK63BS doesn't have the rev-matched downshift programming that the C63 has.
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CLK63BS part number 2095002200 Parts.com has it for $228.00 Retail is $318. If space is an issue and it is a concern to have more trans cooling, you can have one custom made.
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Thank you sir. So a slush box just like the C63 then. I thought it might have had the DCT. The tranny cooler is different as well? Why do you think the CLK's tranny does not go into limp mode on the track when the C63's does? Cooling only? Do you think those extra parts give it the ability to adsorb more power?
.... it's been discussed on this forum so many times, I assumed you knew that the transmission was the same in both cars. Hence my reply to you about the parts department.
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Public school I'm guessing?
I have no issues with Weistec or ACG at this time. I think in retrospect that they would both agree that the car was a more complicated project than either thought when I got frustrated.
If you have problems with me, why don't you move along? There are other threads you can spend your time in.
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I have no issues with Weistec or ACG at this time. I think in retrospect that they would both agree that the car was a more complicated project than either thought when I got frustrated.
If you have problems with me, why don't you move along? There are other threads you can spend your time in.
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Nice to see you are posting more like a normal person.
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Too much slurping, 'unslurping', and 'reslurping' going on here. Keep it real. Congratulations on the nice build folks, looks and sounds absolutely ridiculous. Looking fwd to videos. Enjoy!!
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Stalkerish lets be real I am too busy for that, bored while my wife is traveling and I cant sleep more like it. Maybe I was a bully in the past yeah but to be honest he crossed a line I have a hard time accepting but that is what the internet is for, complaining!
jspAMG I hope it all works well and congratulations the car is running now.
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congrats on getting the car back and running. Def a beast with all the hp/torque that makes the car squirmy with a touch of the gas pedal. Did you have a LSD put in as well? Cant wait to see what the final results after everything has been done to it and you get it back.
congrats on getting the car back and running. Def a beast with all the hp/torque that makes the car squirmy with a touch of the gas pedal. Did you have a LSD put in as well? Cant wait to see what the final results after everything has been done to it and you get it back.
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congrats on getting the car back and running. Def a beast with all the hp/torque that makes the car squirmy with a touch of the gas pedal. Did you have a LSD put in as well? Cant wait to see what the final results after everything has been done to it and you get it back.
congrats on getting the car back and running. Def a beast with all the hp/torque that makes the car squirmy with a touch of the gas pedal. Did you have a LSD put in as well? Cant wait to see what the final results after everything has been done to it and you get it back.
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Nope, I can't comment on the tranny internals. This has been discussed in other threads as well. I know for sure that the dif and axles are beefier but I have no clue regarding BS trans internals.
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Could we get back to hating me or liking the car and not fighting with each other?
I came back in to give my thoughts on the car today after driving it this afternoon. But it seems emotions are still high.
Also, for the record: while it's conceivable I could buy 7000 superchargers, who keeps that kind of liquidity? The longer term fate of the car is up in the air at the moment.
If people want some impressions, I'll check in tomorrow.
I came back in to give my thoughts on the car today after driving it this afternoon. But it seems emotions are still high.
Also, for the record: while it's conceivable I could buy 7000 superchargers, who keeps that kind of liquidity? The longer term fate of the car is up in the air at the moment.
If people want some impressions, I'll check in tomorrow.
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Something like these outrageously priced ones on ebay? There are several subtle styles.
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I like the older fatter Buddhas myself. And the Zhao Cai Mao waving lucky cat thing. Sorry, I'm as white as wonder bread. I just mooch off my wife's culture from time to time.
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I like the older fatter Buddhas myself. And the Zhao Cai Mao waving lucky cat thing. Sorry, I'm as white as wonder bread. I just mooch off my wife's culture from time to time.
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Interesting. Maybe those internals make it stronger than the C63 tranny. Dad's blew his tranny up with that much power so that was why I asked if they were different since you guys are reporting no issues.
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You are still misconstruing my comments. A week of work by ACG and Weistec essentially redoing everything cannot be distilled into a few sentences or posts.
Originally both sides were unaware the car had two electromechanical problems that only showed up under boost at high rpm. Additionally the stock air boxes seem to be inadequate for stage 2 levels.
I would say that both companies can now have an increased confidence in each other and have learned a couple of lessons in product configuration that will allow them to do this project faster, better and with higher customer satisfaction in the future.
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Originally both sides were unaware the car had two electromechanical problems that only showed up under boost at high rpm. Additionally the stock air boxes seem to be inadequate for stage 2 levels.
I would say that both companies can now have an increased confidence in each other and have learned a couple of lessons in product configuration that will allow them to do this project faster, better and with higher customer satisfaction in the future.
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To clarify a comment, I didn't blow up my tranny. In the "S" sport mode it was smoking the clutch packs with the nitrous. Since then we have learned that running in "M" manual mode it will change without a problem. Not sure why the line pressures may be different or the TCU limiters are not in effect in manual mode but it works perfectly fine in manual mode. Probably just gave away too much information but thats been our experience.
Since the C63 tranny and the CLK63 tranny's are the same what are your thoughts as to how they are not smoking the clutch packs while running in S mode then? Could those internals be making the difference?
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To clarify a comment, I didn't blow up my tranny. In the "S" sport mode it was smoking the clutch packs with the nitrous. Since then we have learned that running in "M" manual mode it will change without a problem. Not sure why the line pressures may be different or the TCU limiters are not in effect in manual mode but it works perfectly fine in manual mode. Probably just gave away too much information but thats been our experience. Thats why I have been interested to see if the other "63" platform cars with the S/C would change gears at WOT with sticky tires in the auto mode. I've been told they do but no one has done it with slicks at WOT at a track other than jrcart and since he ran high 10's it may still shift at that level of power. I am still on the fence with the S/C deal because I road race my car soo much and I'm very concerned about heat soak.
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Sounds like from Jim's experience the car becomes very unstable with all that power. Would be interesting to see if someone can break that horse and put down some good track times on the twisties.
The heat soak and tranny limp mode im curious about as well.
