Warning for anyone thinking about going to Eurocharged DC
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Warning for anyone thinking about going to Paul of "EC DC"
First, let me start off by saying Jerry and Rick have done their part, and their tunes are incredible, but the shop here in dc is far from half decent.
After 3 months of patience, it was time for me to go public before more people got hurt by Paul of euro charged DC. I have told others to chime in and write about their dreadful experience. Me and Paul hit it off, seemed like a great guy, till my new c63 was messed up and played with. He took on jobs that he wasnt supposed to using the euro charged name for authenticity. I wont get into the awful wrap job that took 17 days and messed up my paint, because Jerry and Rick have personally fixed that and refunded me every penny because Paul refused to when it wasnt their fault and they had no knowledge of Paul doing jobs like this. I had headers installed at euro charged, took two days and the headers have failed on me twice because of a poor install leaving me stranded for an hour or two in the AM waiting for a tow truck. Payed out of pocket to get that fixed, and it wasnt cheap. I asked for a refund, and i was constantly told that a check has been sent out, it was never sent and he never intended to refund me my money. He claimed to have tuned my car, because i purchased a tune during my header install come later to find out the tune was never put on the car, Jerry sent me a file and i did it via the tuner.
Paul has made a lot of customers never go back to that shop, and if i were to post the things that have happened to my friends cars, this would turn over very quickly. They will be creating accounts to share their awful experiences. This post isnt to bash eurocharged, because i still stand by their tunes, but Paul has messed up too many cars and customers paying hundreds/thousands out of pocket to get their cars fixed and using eurocharged's name to bring himself business. Ive never had such a dreadful experience like ive had at this shop. Ive also never met someone in the car industry that put me through what Paul has. I dont know the rules of the forums, but i have texts and emails showing how he was scheming against me. Sadly my friends have gone through worse than i have. I was going to put in a lot of work there but thankfully i had a bad experience before he started body work etc like he claimed to know how to do.
After 3 months of patience, it was time for me to go public before more people got hurt by Paul of euro charged DC. I have told others to chime in and write about their dreadful experience. Me and Paul hit it off, seemed like a great guy, till my new c63 was messed up and played with. He took on jobs that he wasnt supposed to using the euro charged name for authenticity. I wont get into the awful wrap job that took 17 days and messed up my paint, because Jerry and Rick have personally fixed that and refunded me every penny because Paul refused to when it wasnt their fault and they had no knowledge of Paul doing jobs like this. I had headers installed at euro charged, took two days and the headers have failed on me twice because of a poor install leaving me stranded for an hour or two in the AM waiting for a tow truck. Payed out of pocket to get that fixed, and it wasnt cheap. I asked for a refund, and i was constantly told that a check has been sent out, it was never sent and he never intended to refund me my money. He claimed to have tuned my car, because i purchased a tune during my header install come later to find out the tune was never put on the car, Jerry sent me a file and i did it via the tuner.
Paul has made a lot of customers never go back to that shop, and if i were to post the things that have happened to my friends cars, this would turn over very quickly. They will be creating accounts to share their awful experiences. This post isnt to bash eurocharged, because i still stand by their tunes, but Paul has messed up too many cars and customers paying hundreds/thousands out of pocket to get their cars fixed and using eurocharged's name to bring himself business. Ive never had such a dreadful experience like ive had at this shop. Ive also never met someone in the car industry that put me through what Paul has. I dont know the rules of the forums, but i have texts and emails showing how he was scheming against me. Sadly my friends have gone through worse than i have. I was going to put in a lot of work there but thankfully i had a bad experience before he started body work etc like he claimed to know how to do.
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i've seen you mention making this thread before, but never saw it so i figured everything had been taken care of. curious to know what happened to other people as well. i have heard some grumblings about that location though. i wonder if they'll keep him there or replace him? these cars are definitely not just toys so there's no excuse for all that stuff to have gone down the way it has.
btw...what kind of body work are you doing? are you going to go wide body?
btw...what kind of body work are you doing? are you going to go wide body?
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i've seen you mention making this thread before, but never saw it so i figured everything had been taken care of. curious to know what happened to other people as well. i have heard some grumblings about that location though. i wonder if they'll keep him there or replace him? these cars are definitely not just toys so there's no excuse for all that stuff to have gone down the way it has.
btw...what kind of body work are you doing? are you going to go wide body?
btw...what kind of body work are you doing? are you going to go wide body?
To answer your last question! Yeah, i wanted to do a wide body, Paul said t could be done for less than 3000 which of course was extremely appealing, i was told to check out a shop near RRT( who fixed everything and were extremely professional and courteous to all my needs) that does amazing body work on respectable cars. Its called D&V.
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this is why i always pay with amex. they'll pretty much ALWAYS take care of you if something like this happens.
don't want to derail your thread, but the wide body would be awesome. hope you go through with it and post pics so i can live vicariously through you haha. if you were just going to add rear fender flares, then i think about $3000 sounds right. i've read of a couple people doing it and they all paid about $2-$3k. if you get a whole body kit though, then it all starts adding up quickly when you also factor in the cost of the actual kit.
don't want to derail your thread, but the wide body would be awesome. hope you go through with it and post pics so i can live vicariously through you haha. if you were just going to add rear fender flares, then i think about $3000 sounds right. i've read of a couple people doing it and they all paid about $2-$3k. if you get a whole body kit though, then it all starts adding up quickly when you also factor in the cost of the actual kit.
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First, let me start off by saying Jerry and Rick have done their part, and their tunes are incredible, but the shop here in dc is far from half decent.
After 3 months of patience, it was time for me to go public before more people got hurt by Paul of euro charged DC. I have told others to chime in and write about their dreadful experience. Me and Paul hit it off, seemed like a great guy, till my new c63 was messed up and played with. He took on jobs that he wasnt supposed to using the euro charged name for authenticity. I wont get into the awful wrap job that took 17 days and messed up my paint, because Jerry and Rick have personally fixed that and refunded me every penny because Paul refused to when it wasnt their fault and they had no knowledge of Paul doing jobs like this. I had headers installed at euro charged, took two days and the headers have failed on me twice because of a poor install leaving me stranded for an hour or two in the AM waiting for a tow truck. Payed out of pocket to get that fixed, and it wasnt cheap. I asked for a refund, and i was constantly told that a check has been sent out, it was never sent and he never intended to refund me my money. He claimed to have tuned my car, because i purchased a tune during my header install come later to find out the tune was never put on the car, Jerry sent me a file and i did it via the tuner.
Paul has made a lot of customers never go back to that shop, and if i were to post the things that have happened to my friends cars, this would turn over very quickly. They will be creating accounts to share their awful experiences. This post isnt to bash eurocharged, because i still stand by their tunes, but Paul has messed up too many cars and customers paying hundreds/thousands out of pocket to get their cars fixed and using eurocharged's name to bring himself business. Ive never had such a dreadful experience like ive had at this shop. Ive also never met someone in the car industry that put me through what Paul has. I dont know the rules of the forums, but i have texts and emails showing how he was scheming against me. Sadly my friends have gone through worse than i have. I was going to put in a lot of work there but thankfully i had a bad experience before he started body work etc like he claimed to know how to do.
After 3 months of patience, it was time for me to go public before more people got hurt by Paul of euro charged DC. I have told others to chime in and write about their dreadful experience. Me and Paul hit it off, seemed like a great guy, till my new c63 was messed up and played with. He took on jobs that he wasnt supposed to using the euro charged name for authenticity. I wont get into the awful wrap job that took 17 days and messed up my paint, because Jerry and Rick have personally fixed that and refunded me every penny because Paul refused to when it wasnt their fault and they had no knowledge of Paul doing jobs like this. I had headers installed at euro charged, took two days and the headers have failed on me twice because of a poor install leaving me stranded for an hour or two in the AM waiting for a tow truck. Payed out of pocket to get that fixed, and it wasnt cheap. I asked for a refund, and i was constantly told that a check has been sent out, it was never sent and he never intended to refund me my money. He claimed to have tuned my car, because i purchased a tune during my header install come later to find out the tune was never put on the car, Jerry sent me a file and i did it via the tuner.
Paul has made a lot of customers never go back to that shop, and if i were to post the things that have happened to my friends cars, this would turn over very quickly. They will be creating accounts to share their awful experiences. This post isnt to bash eurocharged, because i still stand by their tunes, but Paul has messed up too many cars and customers paying hundreds/thousands out of pocket to get their cars fixed and using eurocharged's name to bring himself business. Ive never had such a dreadful experience like ive had at this shop. Ive also never met someone in the car industry that put me through what Paul has. I dont know the rules of the forums, but i have texts and emails showing how he was scheming against me. Sadly my friends have gone through worse than i have. I was going to put in a lot of work there but thankfully i had a bad experience before he started body work etc like he claimed to know how to do.
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Well this is what my SA at mercedes said and i quote " the problem isnt the headers, its the install, the clamps were not put on to connect to the midpipes. " Paul took and kept my OEM headers and primary cats which i eventually just let go because he would always change the subject, so him taking the clamps and not installing them was rediculous. The second time, one of the heads connected to the mount was loose from the install, finally gave out causing a misfire on 1-4 leaving my car immobile at 3 am on the highway. Which i came to realize the mercedes SOS system stinks lol.
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Sounds like this guy (Paul) shouldn't be laying hands on cars, any cars. Dangerous. To think if he ever did brake jobs, good God. I agree stay away.
I empathize for you MaroonC63.
I empathize for you MaroonC63.
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Thanks for the heads up. I will definitely avoid that shop for service as long as Paul is working there. I also heard from other brand car forums about this shop and mentioning shoddy work from this guy with bad attitude. Especially this area, lots of car enthusiast. Shop like that will not last long if they keep him around.
I feel your pain. If I get a tune from EC I'll go to Jerry.
As for body and paint work D&V is the best but $$$$
I feel your pain. If I get a tune from EC I'll go to Jerry.
As for body and paint work D&V is the best but $$$$
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Well this is what my SA at mercedes said and i quote " the problem isnt the headers, its the install, the clamps were not put on to connect to the midpipes. " Paul took and kept my OEM headers and primary cats which i eventually just let go because he would always change the subject, so him taking the clamps and not installing them was rediculous. The second time, one of the heads connected to the mount was loose from the install, finally gave out causing a misfire on 1-4 leaving my car immobile at 3 am on the highway. Which i came to realize the mercedes SOS system stinks lol.
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Thanks for the heads up. I will definitely avoid that shop for service as long as Paul is working there. I also heard from other brand car forums about this shop and mentioning shoddy work from this guy with bad attitude. Especially this area, lots of car enthusiast. Shop like that will not last long if they keep him around.
I feel your pain. If I get a tune from EC I'll go to Jerry.
As for body and paint work D&V is the best but $$$$
I feel your pain. If I get a tune from EC I'll go to Jerry.
As for body and paint work D&V is the best but $$$$
As for the tune, Jerry is the man!
I would try, but from an inside source, he sold them.
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This is the reason I'm driving all the way out to Colo Springs to have Cory at Kleemann USA work my mods. Having a 2.0 autorotor SC installed this summer. Hopefully a set of MBH long tubes as well.
To be fair and balanced - my experience at EC-DC was "OK." Too many friends having bad experiences has warned me off though.
To be fair and balanced - my experience at EC-DC was "OK." Too many friends having bad experiences has warned me off though.
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This is the reason I'm driving all the way out to Colo Springs to have Cory at Kleemann USA work my mods. Having a 2.0 autorotor SC installed this summer. Hopefully a set of MBH long tubes as well.
To be fair and balanced - my experience at EC-DC was "OK." Too many friends having bad experiences has warned me off though.
To be fair and balanced - my experience at EC-DC was "OK." Too many friends having bad experiences has warned me off though.
Honestly, i was never going to say anything, but i heard some stories that pretty much made my heart break, and no one wanted to speak up because these guys took Paul out invited him to their houses etc and he messed up their cars. God knows what he'll do to peoples cars that he doesnt know, so it was time to speak up.
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Def go to d and v Autobody. They do good work. It's where Ferrari Maserati take their cars to get fixed. Was there and they had. A Lamborghini murci there getting fixed. Took my car there after getting rear ended. Ahmad there took care of my car. Again sorry to hear the issues you ran into.
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Familiar with D&V and RRT. Both great shops with great reps. Not familiar with ACM - do you have a lead? Since I'm getting a Kleemann blower I want "The Man" to install it. Cory has been great to work with, and his rep is bulletproof. When it comes time install the CF driveshaft, Quaife LSD, upgraded axles, brakes and body mods I'll be looking for a local shop that's up to the task. Thanks for the refs.
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Familiar with D&V and RRT. Both great shops with great reps. Not familiar with ACM - do you have a lead? Since I'm getting a Kleemann blower I want "The Man" to install it. Cory has been great to work with, and his rep is bulletproof. When it comes time install the CF driveshaft, Quaife LSD, upgraded axles, brakes and body mods I'll be looking for a local shop that's up to the task. Thanks for the refs.
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First off, OP I'm sorry you had to go through this. I own an E55 and actually went to the open house of EC DC. From the start, they were F'd. They had zero clue how to organize the customers, were only interested in this group of rich kids and their cars......prob bribe money involved to tune their cars first. They, and by they I mean Paul ......kept telling customers they are next, but they really weren't next.
They are horrible businessmen and even worse they don't have staff that knows what they are doing. They were reading instructions Iike it was written in greek, all Con fused . Anyway, I will never return there and neither will any friends with other car makes.
I'm surprised Paul is still associated with euro charged. I figured Jerry would've shut them down long ago.
DO NOT GO THERE FOLKS!!!!!
EDIT: RICK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!!!! HE KEPT EVERYONE COOL AND CALM AND WAS THE BEST THING FOR THE EC DC OPEN HOUSE.
OP....mind if I post in the E55 section?
Those guys need to know. Lots of dc va and md guys go there or want to go.
They are horrible businessmen and even worse they don't have staff that knows what they are doing. They were reading instructions Iike it was written in greek, all Con fused . Anyway, I will never return there and neither will any friends with other car makes.
I'm surprised Paul is still associated with euro charged. I figured Jerry would've shut them down long ago.
DO NOT GO THERE FOLKS!!!!!
EDIT: RICK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS!!!! HE KEPT EVERYONE COOL AND CALM AND WAS THE BEST THING FOR THE EC DC OPEN HOUSE.
OP....mind if I post in the E55 section?
Those guys need to know. Lots of dc va and md guys go there or want to go.
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