Black Series brakes on C63
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Black Series brakes on C63
Black series has the following brake set up:
Front: 390x36mm
Rear: 360x26mm (drum size = 180mm)
C63:
Front: 360x36
Rear: 330x26 (drum size = 165mm)
As you can see the black series has much more brakes than C63 while the complete brake kit can be highly expensive, so we are thinking to develop an upgrade brake kits for C63 using B-S rotors which we already make at fraction of what a caliper brake kit can cost.
Black Series two piece rotor:
Front 390x36:http://www.racingbrake.com/Two-piece...ONT-p/2237.htm
Rear 360x26 https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-2pc-R...E63-p/2357.htm
Advantage:
Would like to know if this BBK upgrade would be of interest to you.
Thank you.
Front: 390x36mm
Rear: 360x26mm (drum size = 180mm)
C63:
Front: 360x36
Rear: 330x26 (drum size = 165mm)
As you can see the black series has much more brakes than C63 while the complete brake kit can be highly expensive, so we are thinking to develop an upgrade brake kits for C63 using B-S rotors which we already make at fraction of what a caliper brake kit can cost.
Black Series two piece rotor:
Front 390x36:http://www.racingbrake.com/Two-piece...ONT-p/2237.htm
Rear 360x26 https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-2pc-R...E63-p/2357.htm
Advantage:
- Very affordable
- Retain stock calipers
- Use same stock pads
- Lower initial purchase and maintenance cost
Would like to know if this BBK upgrade would be of interest to you.
Thank you.
Last edited by RacingBrake; Sep 26, 2019 at 02:04 PM.
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The calipers on top; On lift is C63 and on right is B-S. As you can see the caliper is the same and the only difference is the height of adaptor which we will design and make a same adaptor for C63 to fit bigger rotor.
The rear caliper (bottom) is the same for both C63 and B-S with direct mount to OE spindles, we will have to design an adaptor to bridge the caliper up (same idea as the front) for the bigger rotor, like our offer for VW/Audi rear BBK here:
http://www.racingbrake.com/Two-piece...-Re-p/2172.htm
We have spindles and OE calipers in house, with extensive experience in developing OE caliper BBK
so yes they will be "bolt on" installation.
As far as your wheel is the same size as stock B-S (19") they shall fit.
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Another major advantage of this upgrade is the weight saving:
Front OE one piece rotor is one of the heaviest rotors in any class - a whopping 36 lbs, but when you upgrade to B-S BBK, even it's 30mm (390mm) larger in diameter yet weighs only 28 lbs, so you can save 8 lbs per rotor.
The rear OE one piece is 21.5 lbs (330x26), and our rear two piece (380x28) "larger and thicker" is estimated @22 lbs.
Similar upgrade light weight two piece rotors for ML63 offered by RB:
World's First: RacingBrake 2-Piece Brake Rotors ...
Learn how the rotating weight saving can save you gas and maintenance cost:
The Ultimate Rotating & Unspring Mass Reduction Thread ...
Front OE one piece rotor is one of the heaviest rotors in any class - a whopping 36 lbs, but when you upgrade to B-S BBK, even it's 30mm (390mm) larger in diameter yet weighs only 28 lbs, so you can save 8 lbs per rotor.
The rear OE one piece is 21.5 lbs (330x26), and our rear two piece (380x28) "larger and thicker" is estimated @22 lbs.
Similar upgrade light weight two piece rotors for ML63 offered by RB:
World's First: RacingBrake 2-Piece Brake Rotors ...
Learn how the rotating weight saving can save you gas and maintenance cost:
The Ultimate Rotating & Unspring Mass Reduction Thread ...
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Another question or two
" As far as your wheel is the same size as stock B-S (19") they shall fit "
Does this mean I will have to use BS wheels? what about std 19s or in my case HRES?
ff01 8.5 19 x et 47
ff01 9.5 19 x et 45
Also can I use MY callipers?
" As far as your wheel is the same size as stock B-S (19") they shall fit "
Does this mean I will have to use BS wheels? what about std 19s or in my case HRES?
ff01 8.5 19 x et 47
ff01 9.5 19 x et 45
Also can I use MY callipers?
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Basically the BBK only move calipers up towards the wheels for the bigger rotors while you can re-use your calipers & pads (front and rear) - Save a lot of money, and if you have 19" wheels they should fit.
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Just in case folks did not think about it: If you are using 18 inch rims for winter tires, this will not work. I am driving that setup and the 507 brakes barely clear the inner rim diameter. The stock brakes were obviously designed with 18 inch rims in mind - and that flexibility was given up with the BS.
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May be they are only sold with caliper kit only but you can check with dealers about the availability.
That's true. For 390mm rotor kit you will need 19" wheels, while 360mm can fit under 18".
Just in case folks did not think about it: If you are using 18 inch rims for winter tires, this will not work. I am driving that setup and the 507 brakes barely clear the inner rim diameter. The stock brakes were obviously designed with 18 inch rims in mind - and that flexibility was given up with the BS.
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Thank you all for your interest. We made a good progress in design and can now confirm the rear OE calipers will fit 380x28 rotors, it will be 2" oversize than OE's 330 (13"), and even bigger than black series' 360mm (14").
They will, for sure, dramatically improve your C63 both in braking performance and look.
Juts to reiterate, this complete upgrade brake kit will retain the use of your stock C63 calipers & pads, and you would need 19" wheels.
The kit will come with RB light weight two piece rotors rotors, low dust and no noise ET500 performance brake pads, and all necessary hardware and adaptor for an easy "bolt on" installation. (track pads and stainless steel brake line are optional
This kit is very affordable comparing to aftermarket Brembo brake kits. We expect to ship the kit in late Jan/early Feb if you place the order before the end of December.
Brake kits offer will be announced for pre-orders as soon as ready.
They will, for sure, dramatically improve your C63 both in braking performance and look.
Juts to reiterate, this complete upgrade brake kit will retain the use of your stock C63 calipers & pads, and you would need 19" wheels.
The kit will come with RB light weight two piece rotors rotors, low dust and no noise ET500 performance brake pads, and all necessary hardware and adaptor for an easy "bolt on" installation. (track pads and stainless steel brake line are optional
This kit is very affordable comparing to aftermarket Brembo brake kits. We expect to ship the kit in late Jan/early Feb if you place the order before the end of December.
Brake kits offer will be announced for pre-orders as soon as ready.
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According to this source, 507 series has the same brake as C63 (Non BS):
As standard, the C63 AMG “Edition 507″ comes with an even more powerful AMG high-performance braking system featuring compound construction technology. The front axle makes use of compound brake discs measuring 14.2 in. x 1.4 in. The advantages of the compound design include higher fatigue strength and lower warping characteristics. In addition, compound construction discs are lighter in weight and the reduced unsprung masses improve the response of the spring/damping elements.
It seems there is a Performance Brake Option which you might able to upgrade to BS brakes.
The rotors are composite casted (al hat+ iron dsic) like CTS-V, but the ring is not replaceable.
As standard, the C63 AMG “Edition 507″ comes with an even more powerful AMG high-performance braking system featuring compound construction technology. The front axle makes use of compound brake discs measuring 14.2 in. x 1.4 in. The advantages of the compound design include higher fatigue strength and lower warping characteristics. In addition, compound construction discs are lighter in weight and the reduced unsprung masses improve the response of the spring/damping elements.
It seems there is a Performance Brake Option which you might able to upgrade to BS brakes.
The rotors are composite casted (al hat+ iron dsic) like CTS-V, but the ring is not replaceable.
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OK the link is up for ordering:
http://www.racingbrake.com/Brake-Rot.../mb-irk-02.htm
We need some pre-orders to get this project going, so here is the incentive we would offer:
Order by 12/31/14 and save a 10% pre-order discount. Use Coupon Code "MB-C63-BS" at check out. First three orders will also receive free shipping.
Upon order receipt, free shipping will be applied. After Jan 1, 2015 the price will be back to normal.
Delivery is expected around February in time for Spring installation.
Any questions call Chris @714-871-6392, PM or email us
http://www.racingbrake.com/Brake-Rot.../mb-irk-02.htm
We need some pre-orders to get this project going, so here is the incentive we would offer:
Order by 12/31/14 and save a 10% pre-order discount. Use Coupon Code "MB-C63-BS" at check out. First three orders will also receive free shipping.
Upon order receipt, free shipping will be applied. After Jan 1, 2015 the price will be back to normal.
Delivery is expected around February in time for Spring installation.
Any questions call Chris @714-871-6392, PM or email us
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We have just released a bolt on Carbon Ceramic Rotor package for Black Series which can be adapted to standard C63:
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...e-c63-b-s.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...e-c63-b-s.html
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