C63 AMG (W204) 2008 - 2015

Fuel Injector Cleaning Results

Old 11-11-2017, 06:33 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Big Jimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 105
Received 67 Likes on 34 Posts
2012 C63 with P30, LSD, and EES Supercharger, 1959 Plymouth with Viper V10 and Tremec 6sp
Fuel Injector Cleaning Results


I wanted to share the fantastic results I have had over the past few years with getting my fuel injectors from different cars cleaned by RC Fuel Injection in Torrence CA. I just got my C63 injectors back and installed today and it now idles so smooth I think I could balance a nickel on the engine. My C63 has the P30 option and about 31k miles and I have occasionally used a can of Techron cleaner in the tank but doubt it does any good. The car also feels more responsive but won't be able to get it to the drag strip to see results for a month or so. I have attached the report you get from RC with before and after cleaning and it shows I also had 4 dripping injectors. I had similar results in the past with my Lexus LX450 and Viper V10 that ran much smoother after all injectors were squirting the same amount of fuel.

Last edited by Big Jimbo; 11-11-2017 at 06:34 PM. Reason: Forgot attachment
The following 2 users liked this post by Big Jimbo:
bjonesmd (11-12-2017), PP-PRO_C63 (08-30-2023)
Old 11-11-2017, 06:39 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Celicasaur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1,752
Received 169 Likes on 120 Posts
W212 - E63 AMG
Great results - thanks for sharing

I had mine done during the summer and enjoyed similar results.
Old 11-11-2017, 06:53 PM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
skratch77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,684
Received 368 Likes on 271 Posts
2005 E55
Is it worth trying fuel cleaners in the tank to clean the injectors.
Old 11-11-2017, 07:05 PM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
roadkillrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,354
Received 679 Likes on 464 Posts
12 C63BS Magno Alanite Grey, 22 X3M Brooklyn Grey, 08 BMW E93, 22 Ducati Desert Sled, John Deere 3R
How many miles when you had it done?
Old 11-11-2017, 07:06 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
Nates730's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
C63 AMG
Are the injectors difficult to remove/install? How much did that cost to get all 8 done?
Old 11-11-2017, 07:33 PM
  #6  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Big Jimbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 105
Received 67 Likes on 34 Posts
2012 C63 with P30, LSD, and EES Supercharger, 1959 Plymouth with Viper V10 and Tremec 6sp
In my experience the cleaner you add to the tank is worthless once they are dirty. My car has 31k miles. The cost is $24 per injector and their web is rceng.com for details. They usually have a 24 hour turnaround and do all sorts of custom injectors for racing and modifications. If you are a wrench turner it is a simple job. If you have to ask it may not be a good project to perform without someone with more experience to help you.
Old 11-11-2017, 07:53 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
Nates730's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
C63 AMG
Originally Posted by Big Jimbo
In my experience the cleaner you add to the tank is worthless once they are dirty. My car has 31k miles. The cost is $24 per injector and their web is rceng.com for details. They usually have a 24 hour turnaround and do all sorts of custom injectors for racing and modifications. If you are a wrench turner it is a simple job. If you have to ask it may not be a good project to perform without someone with more experience to help you.
Thanks, I deffinately know how to turn a wrench, just haven't had a chance to even look at my engine since I bought it. The turn around time was my next question but you beat me to it 🖒
Old 11-11-2017, 11:01 PM
  #8  
Super Member
 
bentz69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Long Island
Posts: 684
Received 105 Likes on 74 Posts
'16 CLS63S
Originally Posted by Big Jimbo
In my experience the cleaner you add to the tank is worthless once they are dirty. My car has 31k miles. The cost is $24 per injector and their web is rceng.com for details. They usually have a 24 hour turnaround and do all sorts of custom injectors for racing and modifications. If you are a wrench turner it is a simple job. If you have to ask it may not be a good project to perform without someone with more experience to help you.
I always thought that to be true as well. But makes you wonder if the 3000 mile recommended interval for the techron cleaner would keep them clean IF you started the using the techron on a relatively new car
Old 11-12-2017, 10:52 AM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Vladds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
Received 126 Likes on 96 Posts
2010 C63 2019 GLA45
I’m half way into this and you posted exactly what I am going to post.
However, because it will take me a while to do this, I bought Bosch Fuel injectors that are the proper model but not AMG marked while I get the OEM ones cleaned and ready.
Once I get the OEM cleaned and installed ill sell the Bosch if anybody is interested.

If not, I’ll alternate them, while the other set gets cleaned.

I was thinking that with these cars the injectors are clogging easy, because every chance it has it shifts into the 7th and runs 1500 RPM. Looks like they are.

The Techron works, but there are some problems:
1. Using higher concentrations than indicated (which I did with some of my previous cars) while cleaning effectively, can affect the oxygen sensors and change the gas mileage. If you do a search, you will see across many vehicles random reports of worse gas mileage after Techron. Of course nobody will admit that they used twice the concentration.
It is possible that eventually the exhaust stream may eventually clean the residue off the sensors, I’m not sure about this.

2. If you never used it and begin using it at say 50k miles, it could in theory dislodge some gunk that could get stuck in the injector and prevent it from properly closing. I’ve read of this as a theory and it was put out by injector cleaning firms, maybe it’s just ....a theory.

3. And this happened to me with my Alfa Romeo back in the late ‘90’s. If you over use the Techron like once every 3-4 tanks, you will eventually put a hole in your fuel tank.
Mine started to leak at the welded seam. I was the only one in the Alfa forum that had this problem on the 164 and I was the one using Techron the most.

So it’s powerful and it can work, but it can have downsides too.
Nice to see that the stock injectors are around 410 cc.

Last edited by Vladds; 11-12-2017 at 10:55 AM.
Old 11-12-2017, 08:13 PM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jasonoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kitchener, ON
Posts: 5,216
Received 1,572 Likes on 925 Posts
2010 C63 AMG
Sorry man, an injector cleaner in the tank doesn't even remotely touch the capability of running them through a ASNU or something similar.
Old 11-12-2017, 08:23 PM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
roadkillrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,354
Received 679 Likes on 464 Posts
12 C63BS Magno Alanite Grey, 22 X3M Brooklyn Grey, 08 BMW E93, 22 Ducati Desert Sled, John Deere 3R
For those of you on the east coast, I have used these guys in the past and they do good work and are pretty cheap - $130 for a set of 8.

http://www.hurstinjectorservice.com/
The following users liked this post:
G_Money (06-12-2019)
Old 11-12-2017, 08:28 PM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Vladds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
Received 126 Likes on 96 Posts
2010 C63 2019 GLA45
And I am not claiming it is anywhere close to a modern ultrasonic cleaning.
Not to mention the real time pattern checking and knowing for sure that you’re not going to hydro lock your engine because of a leaky injector.
That’s why I replaced with new injectors and am getting my OEM ones ultrasonic cleaned then flow tested, like the OP.
But if you can’t do this and don’t want to spend for a dealer cleaning at the fuel rail (also not as good as the ultrasonic one), then a can of Techron will do ..... something.
Old 11-12-2017, 08:48 PM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
skratch77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,684
Received 368 Likes on 271 Posts
2005 E55
Brand new injectors are 90 each guys
Old 11-12-2017, 08:53 PM
  #14  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Vladds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
Received 126 Likes on 96 Posts
2010 C63 2019 GLA45
No, they are $80 at mercedesgenuine
But if you buy Bosch fuel injectors of the proper part number but not marked AMG (and I have pictures side by side and the Bosch part number is the same on the AMG branded ones ), then the price is $28/each.
Old 11-12-2017, 10:01 PM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
roadkillrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,354
Received 679 Likes on 464 Posts
12 C63BS Magno Alanite Grey, 22 X3M Brooklyn Grey, 08 BMW E93, 22 Ducati Desert Sled, John Deere 3R
Originally Posted by Vladds
No, they are $80 at mercedesgenuine
But if you buy Bosch fuel injectors of the proper part number but not marked AMG (and I have pictures side by side and the Bosch part number is the same on the AMG branded ones ), then the price is $28/each.
would love to see that pic and part #
Old 11-12-2017, 10:05 PM
  #16  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Vladds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
Received 126 Likes on 96 Posts
2010 C63 2019 GLA45
Fuel Injector Cleaning Results-photo78.jpg

The close one is the AMG one. I have these in a bag waiting for cleaning, can take more pics but you can kinda see the Bosch part number.
Old 11-12-2017, 10:28 PM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
roadkillrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,354
Received 679 Likes on 464 Posts
12 C63BS Magno Alanite Grey, 22 X3M Brooklyn Grey, 08 BMW E93, 22 Ducati Desert Sled, John Deere 3R
When I lookup the Bosch number 0280158152 it is 80 bucks, what part number are you using to find them for 28 bucks?
Old 11-12-2017, 11:45 PM
  #18  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Vladds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
Received 126 Likes on 96 Posts
2010 C63 2019 GLA45
Originally Posted by roadkillrob
When I lookup the Bosch number 0280158152 it is 80 bucks, what part number are you using to find them for 28 bucks?
So for instance go to atohausaz. Go through the search pattern put in the car and year and go to injectors and you'll find the injectors for $28, now out of stock, I guess the news travelled. As far as part number, they use the Mercedes part number 156 7800 23. But then they come in boxes such as so:

Fuel Injector Cleaning Results-photo249.jpg

Might add made in Germany too.

Last edited by Vladds; 11-12-2017 at 11:48 PM.
The following 3 users liked this post by Vladds:
BLKROKT (11-13-2017), I am Jeff (02-09-2018), roadkillrob (11-15-2017)
Old 11-13-2017, 02:06 AM
  #19  
Super Member
 
Infiniti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Orlando FL
Posts: 935
Received 74 Likes on 58 Posts
a unicorn tuned p30 e63
thanks for posting!
Old 11-15-2017, 03:32 PM
  #20  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
roadkillrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,354
Received 679 Likes on 464 Posts
12 C63BS Magno Alanite Grey, 22 X3M Brooklyn Grey, 08 BMW E93, 22 Ducati Desert Sled, John Deere 3R
says it is on backorder, so maybe will be back in stock at some point http://www.autohausaz.com/search/pro...uel%20Injector
Old 11-15-2017, 04:13 PM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
bhamg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,899
Received 92 Likes on 81 Posts
C63 AMG
Great thread OP and an eye-opener. I've always assumed using the "best" gas (Shell, Costco, Chevron) known for the highest levels of detergents and handily exceeding Top Tier minimum levels would be enough to keep injectors at 100% efficiency but i guess not. I'll be very interested to see how mine check out particularly as I usually keep revs 25% higher in all driving conditions than what would be the norm in default full-automatic mode.
Old 02-08-2018, 11:07 PM
  #22  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
BLKROKT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 8,044
Received 2,806 Likes on 1,663 Posts
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
Originally Posted by Vladds
So for instance go to atohausaz. Go through the search pattern put in the car and year and go to injectors and you'll find the injectors for $28, now out of stock, I guess the news travelled. As far as part number, they use the Mercedes part number 156 7800 23. But then they come in boxes such as so:

Attachment 414786

Might add made in Germany too.
Back in stock but $80 each. Would love to know where you see them for $28 each.

FCP Euro has them for $67 each

FYI the Bosch part number is 62421

Last edited by BLKROKT; 02-08-2018 at 11:16 PM.
Old 02-09-2018, 01:31 PM
  #23  
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
FCPEuro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,142
Received 154 Likes on 108 Posts
Mercedes
Waived my magic wand on this one

--Kyle
The following 3 users liked this post by FCPEuro:
BLKROKT (02-09-2018), Crya (02-09-2018), zcct04 (02-09-2018)
Old 02-09-2018, 01:53 PM
  #24  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
BLKROKT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 8,044
Received 2,806 Likes on 1,663 Posts
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
Originally Posted by FCPEuro
Waived my magic wand on this one

--Kyle
WOAH!



The following users liked this post:
Texas E63 (02-09-2018)
Old 02-09-2018, 05:26 PM
  #25  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
roadkillrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,354
Received 679 Likes on 464 Posts
12 C63BS Magno Alanite Grey, 22 X3M Brooklyn Grey, 08 BMW E93, 22 Ducati Desert Sled, John Deere 3R
$23 http://www.rmeuropean.com/Products/1...023-MFG14.aspx
$29 https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_In...-078-00-23-M14

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Fuel Injector Cleaning Results



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:36 AM.