C63S Ticking Noise
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Hello, my car has now almost 130 tkm, engine little bit noisier (still 0w40 every 10000km), noise seems still normal to me(car running strong)
https://vimeo.com/765379648
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Guys can you hear any weird noise? My engine has over 100 000kms, and 60000 with the tune..
thanks
https://vimeo.com/527810069
thanks
https://vimeo.com/527810069
my car have it, and when you press gas the noise dessapear
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this “tick tick tick” noise on the right is normal?
my car have it, and when you press gas the noise dessapear
https://youtu.be/9gAVVVeVDI0
my car have it, and when you press gas the noise dessapear
https://youtu.be/9gAVVVeVDI0
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Hey guys,
I've had a ticking noise with my Mercedes for about a month now. It typically begins when I start the vehicle, and when I drive somewhere and put it in park, it's still ticking, albeit not as bad as compared to a cold start, but it can still be heard; the noise itself isn't too loud, but it's more of a nuisance. I wonder may there be an issue with the lifter in the engine combustion cycle? I heard this was an issue with the older C63's.
I'm curious to see if anyone else has had a similar issue, and if so, what you did to fix it. I'm veering away from going to the dealership for now, but if I have to, I will, I know it will be an arm and a leg, just like with any visit, so if it's an easy fix, I'm all ears!
Thank you and best regards.
I've had a ticking noise with my Mercedes for about a month now. It typically begins when I start the vehicle, and when I drive somewhere and put it in park, it's still ticking, albeit not as bad as compared to a cold start, but it can still be heard; the noise itself isn't too loud, but it's more of a nuisance. I wonder may there be an issue with the lifter in the engine combustion cycle? I heard this was an issue with the older C63's.
I'm curious to see if anyone else has had a similar issue, and if so, what you did to fix it. I'm veering away from going to the dealership for now, but if I have to, I will, I know it will be an arm and a leg, just like with any visit, so if it's an easy fix, I'm all ears!
Thank you and best regards.
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Hello guys,
sorry to ask as well, but just like everybody i'm being paranoid and worried about the noise.
It's definitely not the "regular rattle noise."
I hope it's the purge valves but i'm afraid it's the guides. it's quite high-pitched and located on the right side of the engine.
Noise happens only when engine is cold.
Can someone let me know what he thinks ?
C 63 W205 with 60k miles.
I really appreciate your thoughts on this one.
sorry to ask as well, but just like everybody i'm being paranoid and worried about the noise.
It's definitely not the "regular rattle noise."
I hope it's the purge valves but i'm afraid it's the guides. it's quite high-pitched and located on the right side of the engine.
Noise happens only when engine is cold.
Can someone let me know what he thinks ?
C 63 W205 with 60k miles.
I really appreciate your thoughts on this one.
Last edited by maxlgd; Oct 16, 2024 at 02:46 PM.
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Hello guys,
sorry to ask as well, but just like everybody i'm being paranoid and worried about the noise.
It's definitely not the "regular rattle noise."
I hope it's the purge valves but i'm afraid it's the guides. it's quite high-pitched and located on the right side of the engine.
Noise happens only when engine is cold.
Can someone let me know what he thinks ?
C 63 W205 with 60k miles.
I really appreciate your thoughts on this one.
sorry to ask as well, but just like everybody i'm being paranoid and worried about the noise.
It's definitely not the "regular rattle noise."
I hope it's the purge valves but i'm afraid it's the guides. it's quite high-pitched and located on the right side of the engine.
Noise happens only when engine is cold.
Can someone let me know what he thinks ?
C 63 W205 with 60k miles.
I really appreciate your thoughts on this one.
Get them changed or use a bit of dielectric grease on the belt to silence them until you get them fixed.
Last edited by Jimmy_c63s; Oct 16, 2024 at 06:16 PM.
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If you change belt but not the pulleys the sound will come back within a week. I've done the same thing in the past and kept getting the squeaks on start up after the belts were done. Got so fed up I had all the pulleys changed, added a dab of dielectric grease to the belt and never heard it squeak for 2 years.
These cars will drive you nuts
Last edited by Jimmy_c63s; Oct 17, 2024 at 04:57 AM.
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Nice car man. That's definitely inside your exhaust. The sounds "clok clok" seem to change depending on the beat of the exhaust. And seeing that you said the sound sort of fixed up after a spark plug change makes me think there was a bit of an idle improvement after the spark plug change which affected that sound and flow inside your exhaust.
The only mechanical parts in our exhausts are the flaps. Take off the actuators (the black rectangular parts) and put some copper grease on all 3 of the flaps. See if that fixes it, and if it does, it's the flaps for sure.
I've been researching the timing chain guide issue on the German forums (motor-talk) and here is a vid I've downloaded from there. It's a very rare issue and as long as your cars don't sound like this, you're good.
PS: Idle pulley and belt can give a chirping sound at times, especially after a rainy day/night but it will never sound like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi95fMb2UnM
The only mechanical parts in our exhausts are the flaps. Take off the actuators (the black rectangular parts) and put some copper grease on all 3 of the flaps. See if that fixes it, and if it does, it's the flaps for sure.
I've been researching the timing chain guide issue on the German forums (motor-talk) and here is a vid I've downloaded from there. It's a very rare issue and as long as your cars don't sound like this, you're good.
PS: Idle pulley and belt can give a chirping sound at times, especially after a rainy day/night but it will never sound like this.
This is the bad sound you don't want
👇https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi95fMb2UnM
Last edited by C63s2016; Feb 6, 2025 at 01:00 PM.
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Yep that issue with the timing chain guides is a full on cricket type of noise during cold start. You'll hear it going "tek tek tek tek tek" it's very noticeable even with the hood shut and you're standing outside behind the car.
I have a few videos saved if you want i'll upload them onto youtube but it's actually a very rare issue for the M177 🙂
I have a few videos saved if you want i'll upload them onto youtube but it's actually a very rare issue for the M177 🙂
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@JimmyC63S my car was dropped off at the dealer today... I think I have the timing chain guide issue discussed in this thread. Mine is coming from the passenger side (Bank 1). Noise starts after about 30 seconds, only on cold start, and goes away after 3-5 minutes. Here's a video of it:
My car has an extended warranty so I'm hoping it's covered. Is there any kind of documentation or TSB from Mercedes that I can give to the dealer to support my claim? Thank you for any help you can provide.
Last edited by Roysup; Mar 22, 2025 at 04:43 PM.
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@Jimmy_c63s Second day at the dealer, no updates from them yet. Really hoping someone has a "star bulletin", aka a TSB, or some other supporting documentation for this issue that I can use if they call me with the "it's normal" response.
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@Jimmy_c63s Second day at the dealer, no updates from them yet. Really hoping someone has a "star bulletin", aka a TSB, or some other supporting documentation for this issue that I can use if they call me with the "it's normal" response.
Got a video of it outside the garage? A lot of sound reverb going on, I'll confirm it if I can hear it.
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@Jimmy_c63s I don't have a video outside the garage. It's even harder to hear when it's outside. But when I'm parked near a wall or by a concrete curb is when I can hear it the most because of the reverb off the hard surface. The noise is almost completely isolated to the passenger side. Also, I used a Mechanics Stethoscope and when I put the end on the front of the passenger side timing cover the noise is the loudest.
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Got my car back from the dealer and I have good and bad news. The good news is that it is more of a "customer satisfaction" issue due to the noise, than a critical repair. They advised there is no harm or risk in driving it.
I also obtained the "TSB" for this issue for anyone's reference... LI05.10-P-068624. I attached the PDF to this post. The TSB only says to replace the secondary chain drive tensioning rail; part numbers: A 177 050 43 01 and A 177 050 44 01. The parts are only about $20 each.
The bad news is that it is a timing-cover-off job to get to those parts... Meaning front bumper and radiator pack removal, or engine removal.
The even worse news for me is that the dealer I used flat refused to work on my car, even though I have an extended warranty purchased from them (third party company, not MB) because I have a Zac Motorsport intake and ModalWorks downpipes and Zac cat-back exhaust. They could not explain what those things have to do with the timing chain guides though. So I might look for another shop that is more Performance-friendly and is also willing to work with the warranty company I have.
Hope this helps others.
I also obtained the "TSB" for this issue for anyone's reference... LI05.10-P-068624. I attached the PDF to this post. The TSB only says to replace the secondary chain drive tensioning rail; part numbers: A 177 050 43 01 and A 177 050 44 01. The parts are only about $20 each.
The bad news is that it is a timing-cover-off job to get to those parts... Meaning front bumper and radiator pack removal, or engine removal.
The even worse news for me is that the dealer I used flat refused to work on my car, even though I have an extended warranty purchased from them (third party company, not MB) because I have a Zac Motorsport intake and ModalWorks downpipes and Zac cat-back exhaust. They could not explain what those things have to do with the timing chain guides though. So I might look for another shop that is more Performance-friendly and is also willing to work with the warranty company I have.
Hope this helps others.
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If anyone has had an Audi or Golf GTI from the late 2000's will remember the engines would develop a clacking sound from the chain/guides which never affected the longevity but made the car sound like a diesel. Sounds like the same thing (sort of).
Your findings have put a lot of minds to ease now.
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@Jimmy_c63s I was able to get mine fixed under aftermarket warranty. Indy shop charged ~$7100 to do the job, so I definitely wouldn't recommend it for anyone who doesn't have a warranty.
I asked for one of the old secondary chain guides back so I can show everyone that it is just an annoying sound and you don't have to be worried about your timing chain, or timing components harming your engine.
and how it rattles. The noise is caused by the plastic guide being loose against the metal arm. Also, the plastic pad that the tensioner pushes on can also rattle. The shop told me the new tensioner arm is redesigned to be one piece that includes the arm itself and where the chain rides.
I hope this puts some people's minds at ease. Your car will be fine if it has this noise. But, I am glad I was able to get mine fixed, because it sure would be hard to explain if / when I sell it.
I asked for one of the old secondary chain guides back so I can show everyone that it is just an annoying sound and you don't have to be worried about your timing chain, or timing components harming your engine.
I hope this puts some people's minds at ease. Your car will be fine if it has this noise. But, I am glad I was able to get mine fixed, because it sure would be hard to explain if / when I sell it.
