BUSTED!! 18MPH over...but this is going to be the last time!
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BUSTED!! 18MPH over...but this is going to be the last time!
OK I was busted fair and square so no *****ing from me. Last time I got busted I was fuming because it was clearly a speedtrap. I was so pissed, I immediately ordered a Valentine One, Laser Veil and a license plate cover that disperses speedgun lasers.
I can attest to the effectiveness of the Laser Veil as the cops could not clock my wife at the SAME speedtrap (cackle cackle). The only bad thing is that it's a dark metallic paint that makes your car look dirty. Since I don't care about our Honda's, I slathered them with it. I can NOT bring myself to do the same to the AMG (it's too gorgeous).
The Valentine One works very well but it's a pain in the *** to pull it out everytime I drive so I decided to break out the big guns:
Blinder M25 Laser Jammer! Just type in Blinder M25 for some Youtube demos (there is even an AMG one). I did some research and the price is regularly $430 BUT Overstock.com currently has them on sale for $368.
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...i_sku=10788103
I have a coupon code 130340 that will give you 10% off so my final cost came out to around $335. I am going to pay the ticket, court cost and the defensive driving which will come out to $400 so I figure an investment of $335 will be worth while to prevent future tickets.
Since I am not very handy at electronics, I am going to have a high end installation place do the work. I will update you guys on the effectiveness of the product.
I can attest to the effectiveness of the Laser Veil as the cops could not clock my wife at the SAME speedtrap (cackle cackle). The only bad thing is that it's a dark metallic paint that makes your car look dirty. Since I don't care about our Honda's, I slathered them with it. I can NOT bring myself to do the same to the AMG (it's too gorgeous).
The Valentine One works very well but it's a pain in the *** to pull it out everytime I drive so I decided to break out the big guns:
Blinder M25 Laser Jammer! Just type in Blinder M25 for some Youtube demos (there is even an AMG one). I did some research and the price is regularly $430 BUT Overstock.com currently has them on sale for $368.
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...i_sku=10788103
I have a coupon code 130340 that will give you 10% off so my final cost came out to around $335. I am going to pay the ticket, court cost and the defensive driving which will come out to $400 so I figure an investment of $335 will be worth while to prevent future tickets.
Since I am not very handy at electronics, I am going to have a high end installation place do the work. I will update you guys on the effectiveness of the product.
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Good luck with that....
My faith in laser jammers went downhill after a recent uncertified 'test' using an E55 Wagon. Honestly, I forget which brand he had, but the popo had no trouble getting a reading on him at 120+ (closed course track) despite his positive alert on the jammer. Of course, radar picked him up easily....
My faith in laser jammers went downhill after a recent uncertified 'test' using an E55 Wagon. Honestly, I forget which brand he had, but the popo had no trouble getting a reading on him at 120+ (closed course track) despite his positive alert on the jammer. Of course, radar picked him up easily....
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I have the Belltronics 9500i. I decided to buy one after I got a ticket in Washington by an unmarked HP in a black ford escort. Since I've bought it, it has save me from a ticket driving on I25 from Denver to Fort Collins, Co. Just yesterday it alerted me on a laser. I was on I40 from Flagstaff to Winslow, Az. Speed limit was 75mph, but went down to 45 for construction. I went down to 65 since there were no workers in sight. I was in the left hand lane on a two lane road when my detector screamed LASER!!!! I jammed on the brakes, and I mean jammed the brakes because I've heard that with laser you don't have much time to react. I moved in between two truckers and as I continued up the road there was Arizona HP waiting... I didn't even look at him as I passed by, saved by the radar detector.
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Allow me to chime in here.
If your laser detector/jammer says laser you are already targetted you are pretty much had. NO ONE here is as fast as the speed of light!!!! Hitting the brakes - resistance is futile!
ANY jamming device is illegal by federal law and if you get caught with one you will wish you got the speeding ticket instead.
To deflect or jam a laser beam first it must hit the jammer. The laser speed guns beam depending on distance to target, may only be several inches wide. I will not give you exact numbers. Also the laser being aimed by the officer may not be pointed at your license plate. That is just a favorite target of ours. Also we can hit you from behind after you have passed us. Again that speed of light thing very quick. Target aquisition and lock.
Perhaps you should just drive the peed limit. Just my .02
After almost being hit head on by a drunk last Sat night, forgive my stance on maybe just slowing down.
If your laser detector/jammer says laser you are already targetted you are pretty much had. NO ONE here is as fast as the speed of light!!!! Hitting the brakes - resistance is futile!
ANY jamming device is illegal by federal law and if you get caught with one you will wish you got the speeding ticket instead.
To deflect or jam a laser beam first it must hit the jammer. The laser speed guns beam depending on distance to target, may only be several inches wide. I will not give you exact numbers. Also the laser being aimed by the officer may not be pointed at your license plate. That is just a favorite target of ours. Also we can hit you from behind after you have passed us. Again that speed of light thing very quick. Target aquisition and lock.
Perhaps you should just drive the peed limit. Just my .02
After almost being hit head on by a drunk last Sat night, forgive my stance on maybe just slowing down.
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Allow me to chime in here.
If your laser detector/jammer says laser you are already targetted you are pretty much had. NO ONE here is as fast as the speed of light!!!! Hitting the brakes - resistance is futile!
If your laser detector/jammer says laser you are already targetted you are pretty much had. NO ONE here is as fast as the speed of light!!!! Hitting the brakes - resistance is futile!
I got a ticket for 60 in 40 with our SUV and the Escort 8500 X50 (best they had a few years ago) never made a peep. Shot me with LIDAR.
Go figure.
technical BS here
There is a filtering lens in front of the diode to keep non-IR light out. The diode is then AC-coupled to keep steady light sources from getting "in the way" of the pulsed signals that the sensing circuit looks for. There may be an "edge triggered" circuit in there as well, so that it responds to changes in level rather than absolute levels. The resulting pulses are sent to the RD's microprocessor which then analyzes the signal looking for pulses that could be lidar vs. extraneous noise from the sun, etc. When a series of pulses are detected that meet the criteria programmed into the microprocessor, a laser alert is sounded.
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Your worst nightmare...
Very true, but remember LIDAR etc is actually emitting many pulses of light in order to get an accurate reading. If the cop shot someone directly in front of him, sometimes the detector can pick up that pulse of light ahead and set off the detector. I agree though, you got lucky. Most of the time when it goes off, your dead.
I got a ticket for 60 in 40 with our SUV and the Escort 8500 X50 (best they had a few years ago) never made a peep. Shot me with LIDAR.
Go figure.
technical BS here
There is a filtering lens in front of the diode to keep non-IR light out. The diode is then AC-coupled to keep steady light sources from getting "in the way" of the pulsed signals that the sensing circuit looks for. There may be an "edge triggered" circuit in there as well, so that it responds to changes in level rather than absolute levels. The resulting pulses are sent to the RD's microprocessor which then analyzes the signal looking for pulses that could be lidar vs. extraneous noise from the sun, etc. When a series of pulses are detected that meet the criteria programmed into the microprocessor, a laser alert is sounded.
I got a ticket for 60 in 40 with our SUV and the Escort 8500 X50 (best they had a few years ago) never made a peep. Shot me with LIDAR.
Go figure.
technical BS here
There is a filtering lens in front of the diode to keep non-IR light out. The diode is then AC-coupled to keep steady light sources from getting "in the way" of the pulsed signals that the sensing circuit looks for. There may be an "edge triggered" circuit in there as well, so that it responds to changes in level rather than absolute levels. The resulting pulses are sent to the RD's microprocessor which then analyzes the signal looking for pulses that could be lidar vs. extraneous noise from the sun, etc. When a series of pulses are detected that meet the criteria programmed into the microprocessor, a laser alert is sounded.
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By the way it is not law or policy, however be thankful you only got a speeding ticket for 18 over. It is officer discretion to write you for wreckless driving at that speed over the posted limit. In most states wreckless driving is not an infraction it is a misdemeanor. That is serious.
Most first time OWI offenders get their OWI plead down to wreckless driving. Insurance companies know this. So when they run your driving record, (and they do) they will think you have had an OWI arrest.
Watch your insurance rates SKY ROCKET.
Most first time OWI offenders get their OWI plead down to wreckless driving. Insurance companies know this. So when they run your driving record, (and they do) they will think you have had an OWI arrest.
Watch your insurance rates SKY ROCKET.
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Not to sound harsh but that has nothing to with speed and everything to with alcohol. High performance cars with experienced, sober drivers pose no threat traveling 20miles-over on quiet freeways.
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NO argument on this point. Taken purely in that context.
I have had years of drivers schools, track events and Law Enforcement high performance driver training. That is why I am here today, able to type this not in the hospital breathing thru a tube or worse.
I was able to avoid the head on crash and arrest the drunk driver.
However excessive speed 15+ mph over the posted limit is wreckless and dangerous. In regular traffic situations. One looses the ability to react safely, or at all, to the actions of others around you who are usually oblivious to everything around them. This includes children and podestrians and especially drivers of today who are doing everything except driving their vehicles.
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However excessive speed 15+ mph over the posted limit is wreckless and dangerous. In regular traffic situations. One looses the ability to react safely, or at all, to the actions of others around you who are usually oblivious to everything around them. This includes children and podestrians and especially drivers of today who are doing everything except driving their vehicles.
....it all boils down to judgment. In the case if an intoxicated driver, the judgment is impaired. Liquid courage so-to-speak.
Even a "good" or experienced driver can exercise bad judgment - by excessive speeding - on occasion or even habitually. Insurance companies rate risk. More tickets and accidents = more risk.
Use good judgment.....we will all be safer on public roads.
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some laser jammers do indeed work, i can attest to that fact. i run with a v1 and blinder now, but my blinder is several years old and i will be upgrading to a laser park pro, some good sites to check out:
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/laser-jammers/
http://www.guysoflidar.com
Research before you buy.
Laser Jammers are legal almost everywhere.
Radar Jammers are illegal everywhere.
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/laser-jammers/
http://www.guysoflidar.com
Research before you buy.
Laser Jammers are legal almost everywhere.
Radar Jammers are illegal everywhere.
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some laser jammers do indeed work, i can attest to that fact. i run with a v1 and blinder now, but my blinder is several years old and i will be upgrading to a laser park pro, some good sites to check out:
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/laser-jammers/
http://www.guysoflidar.com
Research before you buy.
Laser Jammers are legal almost everywhere.
Radar Jammers are illegal everywhere.
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/laser-jammers/
http://www.guysoflidar.com
Research before you buy.
Laser Jammers are legal almost everywhere.
Radar Jammers are illegal everywhere.
We may be able to run more testing at the end of the month.
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Laser licensing falls under the jurisdiction of the FDA, radar under FCC.
Please show some data that "speed kills." 15+ is hardly even cruising in most of the machines most of us own.
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Straight from the horses mouth....
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site...1031046108a0c/
Aggressive Driving:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site...3419cdba046a0/
Impaired Driving:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site...0811060008a0c/
Drowsy & Distracted Driving:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site...ccf10dba046a0/
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ChicagoX,
Please see that in context again. 15+ mph over the posted speed limit is very dangerous. It is not the speed in its self. It is the reduced reaction time the excess speed reduces that will cause the difference. You drive 15+ mph over the posted speed limit thru a residential area and see if you can stop when a child runs out in front of you or the mother backs out of her driveway in the minivan. You hit a child at 30 or 45 mph the result will be significantly different. Possibly death verses just serious injury.
Either way a tragic result.
Yes our AMGs are vastly superior to most everything else on the road. Yes alot of us have above average driving skills. I still do not want to have to test them in the event of driving too fast for the circumstances. The posted speed limit signs are not randomly posted. There is a reason for the speed limit. It is set for the Toyota Corallas and Honda Civics with average or below average drivers. Unfortunately we must abided by the same limits.
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If it was me I would choose something other then Blinder. LI LPP or one of the other diode based jammers. The LED jammers are just not as effective. radardetector dot net is a good starting point for research
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Its illegal to jam radar beams not laser beams. Which is a pointless law to have since a radar jammer is only good 10 feet away from to cop but by then the cop already have your speed.
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Again no argument with the basics of your statement.
ChicagoX,
Please see that in context again. 15+ mph over the posted speed limit is very dangerous. It is not the speed in its self. It is the reduced reaction time the excess speed reduces that will cause the difference. You drive 15+ mph over the posted speed limit thru a residential area and see if you can stop when a child runs out in front of you or the mother backs out of her driveway in the minivan...Owen
ChicagoX,
Please see that in context again. 15+ mph over the posted speed limit is very dangerous. It is not the speed in its self. It is the reduced reaction time the excess speed reduces that will cause the difference. You drive 15+ mph over the posted speed limit thru a residential area and see if you can stop when a child runs out in front of you or the mother backs out of her driveway in the minivan...Owen
Chappy, thanks for the links. Every one of the cites cause other than speed for the accident.
Please show me where 15 over without other contributory causes is responsible more accidents. Montana has a great deal of data on this subject, as does the German government. IIRC, the Autobahn has a lower death rate per 100,000 miles traveled than the US.
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Perhaps a tiered license system with red plates for those willing to undergo real driver training/improvement is in order.
The current standards of licensing are horribly low and out everyone at risk, IMO.
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Nobody in their right mind is talking about residential areas.
Chappy, thanks for the links. Every one of the cites cause other than speed for the accident.
Please show me where 15 over without other contributory causes is responsible more accidents. Montana has a great deal of data on this subject, as does the German government. IIRC, the Autobahn has a lower death rate per 100,000 miles traveled than the US.
Chappy, thanks for the links. Every one of the cites cause other than speed for the accident.
Please show me where 15 over without other contributory causes is responsible more accidents. Montana has a great deal of data on this subject, as does the German government. IIRC, the Autobahn has a lower death rate per 100,000 miles traveled than the US.
I point back to my post on judgment.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....9&postcount=11
BTW, you should trek South this fall for the big annual AMG meet (date to be selected soon). The event has grown over the past several years, and we had 56 AMGs from all over (OH, IN, TX, Miami, etc.) We enjoy having support from AMG Management as well as the Private Lounge.
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Carl,
NO argument on this point. Taken purely in that context.
I have had years of drivers schools, track events and Law Enforcement high performance driver training. That is why I am here today, able to type this not in the hospital breathing thru a tube or worse.
I was able to avoid the head on crash and arrest the drunk driver.
However excessive speed 15+ mph over the posted limit is wreckless and dangerous. In regular traffic situations. One looses the ability to react safely, or at all, to the actions of others around you who are usually oblivious to everything around them. This includes children and podestrians and especially drivers of today who are doing everything except driving their vehicles.
NO argument on this point. Taken purely in that context.
I have had years of drivers schools, track events and Law Enforcement high performance driver training. That is why I am here today, able to type this not in the hospital breathing thru a tube or worse.
I was able to avoid the head on crash and arrest the drunk driver.
However excessive speed 15+ mph over the posted limit is wreckless and dangerous. In regular traffic situations. One looses the ability to react safely, or at all, to the actions of others around you who are usually oblivious to everything around them. This includes children and podestrians and especially drivers of today who are doing everything except driving their vehicles.
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I drive a lot and put close to 30k a year on my car and that doesn't include the miles I put on rentals when I have to travel out of town. I think accidents whether your going 65 or 80 happen not because of the speed your going, but because of the jackasses around you not paying attention and I think that's what you guys should be looking out for. Too often do I see people on the phone not using their signal lights, or people not doing speed limit getting in the left hand lane right in front of a person who is doing speed or above that. If drivers would just pay more attention to their surroundings I think there would be less accidents on the road. Speed alone does not cause accidents it is unattentive drivers that cause them.
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ghettobird and OJwerks,
Thank you for making my point!!!
As I have stated it is not the speed in it's self. It is the other factors out side of the drivers control that the excessive speed makes worse or tragic.
Owen
Thank you for making my point!!!
As I have stated it is not the speed in it's self. It is the other factors out side of the drivers control that the excessive speed makes worse or tragic.
Owen
