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Old 06-03-2009, 06:32 PM
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Ok everyone,
Here is my question. I would like to know what you think and if you have any suggestions for me.
I am looking to buy a set of m40 HRE wheels. My questions is what size should I go with?


1st option
19 X 9 in front
19 X 10.5 rear

2nd option
19 X 9
19 x 11

3rd option - With this option my front tires will be 255 (narrower than OEM which is 265)
20 x 9
20 x 10.5

I am not a track Junkie, although i go to at least one event a year. I do a fair deal deal of canyon driving as well. I do care more about ride feel and handling than i do about looks. your opinions are appreciated.
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Option 2 - widest rear track if possible... 20's are too big for this car IMHO.

And M40's are a face forward wheel so they look big for their diameter; 19's will be perfect.
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Option 2 - widest rear track if possible... 20's are too big for this car IMHO.
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Plus 2. You are not going to get much performance advantage going to an aftermarket wheel with this car... unless of course you go with the Dymags. Personally, I would spend the money on the Evosport headers and a tune - much bigger performance bang for your buck.
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I'm in for option 2 as well, gives you more tire options.

I'm actually thinking about going to 18's for the track.
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Originally Posted by DFW01E55
I'm in for option 2 as well, gives you more tire options.

I'm actually thinking about going to 18's for the track.
I was told that 18's will give you Caliper clearance issues. Unless you are going to have the wheels make specifically to your specs. Meaning super super custom.

The reaon why I am looking for wheels is the fact that I belive that there isnt enough rear tire for the power this car makes. I cnt get the car to hook up under accelration, in straight line or coming out of turns. I need more rubber in the rear.
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I was told that 18's will give you Caliper clearance issues. Unless you are going to have the wheels make specifically to your specs. Meaning super super custom.
Good point but I figured 18's would clear since my CL55 had 8 piston calipers and 18's. I'll have to check the rotor size on the CL.

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The reaon why I am looking for wheels is the fact that I belive that there isnt enough rear tire for the power this car makes. I cnt get the car to hook up under accelration, in straight line or coming out of turns. I need more rubber in the rear.
I agree entirely and it only gets worse as the tires wear.
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Originally Posted by Eitan1
I need more rubber in the rear.
Are you running the stock Corsas ? If so, you shouldn't have any problem putting the power down unless your tires are shot. How many miles on your tires ? Remember, the Corsas take a LONG time to get up to temp. I guarantee you normal street driving will not get them up to temp whatsoever. To give you an idea of exactly how long it takes to get them up to temp....last time out at Willow, me on my Michelins and Jimmy on his Corsas, he couldn't keep up with me for the first 2laps out...but as soon as his Corsas were up to temp he was ALL OVER ME. 2 laps on the big track at willow means you have to be pushing it HARD for a long time on the street to even get them up to operating temp. Also, if you have more than a couple track days on the Corsas, they are most likely gone. The R compound is only good for about 15-20 heat cycles, MAX.

Just so you know, I went with Michelin PS2's and I love them for the street and occasional track day. They get up to temp quick and stay there. First gear WOT and of course you will spin...but take a look at the video below. I'm in third gear WOTwith only a slight amount of tail wiggle mid turn. I'm putting the power down no prob and do not feel this car needs a wider tire - it just needs GOOD tires in GOOD shape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMJL0bMAEz4

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WOW !!! LZH you are THE MAN. Too bad there wasn't a kid on a bike to race or meet in that turn.
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Originally Posted by nielsll
WOW !!! LZH you are THE MAN. Too bad there wasn't a kid on a bike to race or meet in that turn.
I drove up and down that street a few times before doing that and also had someone spotting/taking video. It was more than safe. But that begs the question...I'm sure you have never broken the speed limit in your BS, have you ?
Get lost idiot or keep it on topic, or take it to PM like you did last time you made a stupid comment for no apparent reason.

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LZH, you are once again proving yourself to be the a-- that you truly are. Grow up you pathetic little man.
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Originally Posted by nielsll
LZH, you are once again proving yourself to be the a-- that you truly are. Grow up you pathetic little man.

The only *** here is you, you fukin NOOB. I'm trying to help the OP and you come in here with nothing to add to the topic at hand. Something tells me you don't even own a BS....
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LZH, not wishing anyone bodily harm. Maybe a VM conviction would put you in your element.

I was a NOOB once upon a time ago, before you were born, let alone knew what a car was.

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LZH, not wishing anyone bodily harm. Maybe a VM conviction would you you in your element.
Huh ???? Can I get a translator please ??

Dude, like I said before...If you have something to say regarding the topic at hand...great. If not, send me a PM and I'll school you like I did last time...

Oh, I see you edited your post..."vehicular manslaughter" ??? Dude, get a life and GET LOST. LOL - no wonder, you're an old crudmudgeon..that explains it.

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LZH, you told me to go back and read all of your posts. I did. Not very impressive from a technical aspect considering your chosen career path. A lot of drama no real meat. You are proving yourself to be a capital "L" LOSER.
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Originally Posted by nielsll
LZH, you told me to go back and read all of your posts. I did. Not very impressive from a technical aspect considering your chosen career path. A lot of drama no real meat. You are proving yourself to be a capital "L" LOSER.
Glad you decided to actually do some research before opening your trap. Well, since you are so experienced in this arena....what advice do you have for the OP and the topic at hand ??
Nothing, that's right...nada. Just coming here to try and discredit me becasue you are still butthurt from out first run in. Nice try...Now do me a favor and go drive the speed limit in the BS you don't own.
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LZH, trust me. I will always be driving through life, while you ride along.
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Originally Posted by nielsll
LZH, trust me. I will always be driving through life, while you ride along.
As I thought....you don't have anything to add to the topic at hand because you don't even have a BS and have no clue about the stock vs aftermarket setup, tires involved, etc. Get LOST POSER.
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LZH, you are the POSER. Your every post demonstrates this fact. You should observe more and speak less. Maybe, even you, might become enlightened.
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Originally Posted by nielsll
LZH, you are the POSER. Your every post demonstrates this fact. You should observe more and speak less. Maybe, even you, might become enlightened.
Really ?? Please tell me how my post here #8 demonstrates being a poser ?? Becasue as I see it, my post details both on and off track experience as well as real world data adressing the OP's original question. All you've done here is show us all what POSER you really are. And while you're at it, please post pics of your Black Series becasue you have been officially CALLED OUT...

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Ooh, I am "called out", how scary. Your seat of the pants experience is probably far more analytical than my camber gauge, pyrometer, tire gauge and skid pad. I just wish that I had your vast experience so that I wouldn't have to waste so much time before giving advice. Your ability to expound the obvious, without the ability or expertise to examine the subtleties is profound.
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Originally Posted by nielsll
Ooh, I am "called out", how scary. Your seat of the pants experience is probably far more analytical than my camber gauge, pyrometer, tire gauge and skid pad. I just wish that I had your vast experience so that I wouldn't have to waste so much time before giving advice. Your ability to expound the obvious, without the ability or expertise to examine the subtleties is profound.

What "subtleries" are you referring to ??? The ones you measure with your "camber gauge" "pyrometer" and "tire gauge" ??? LOL
This is the second time I'll ask you....if you have so much experience on and off the track, and own a BS...then you should have some good input for the OP, right ?? Enlighten us...Please tell us all how my post #8 shows I am a poser and please give us your counterpoints.
Interesting with all your "profound" knowledge, your last PM to me you stated that the SL 65 BS use a 5 speed dual clutch trans with no torque converter..

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I don't know where to start as all the options in my opinion are terrible from a performance point of view. If you just want a different look OK.

If you want to improve the handling you need to go wider on the front. I'd bump the front's to 9.5 and the rears 10.5. You can go wider but tire selection becomes the problem.

I happen to agree with LZH, pretty hard to beat the factory set up unless you go DyMags.
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I don't know where to start as all the options in my opinion are terrible from a performance point of view. If you just want a different look OK.

If you want to improve the handling you need to go wider on the front. I'd bump the front's to 9.5 and the rears 10.5. You can go wider but tire selection becomes the problem.

I happen to agree with LZH, pretty hard to beat the factory set up unless you go DyMags.
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I don't know where to start as all the options in my opinion are terrible from a performance point of view. If you just want a different look OK.

If you want to improve the handling you need to go wider on the front. I'd bump the front's to 9.5 and the rears 10.5. You can go wider but tire selection becomes the problem.

I happen to agree with LZH, pretty hard to beat the factory set up unless you go DyMags.


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