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Well I never thought I’d sell the car but after driving my friends stock pro with 3k miles I’m convinced it’s worth it. Prices have come down on both a lot. Going to rock that Pro with just Seats and harness and decide if I want more later on.
So thoughts on selling it with all these mods or better to return to stock ?
2018 GTR
Pure Turbos 677 WHP conservative track rune
100 octane tune and TCU tune
catless downpipes
half cage
Recaro Profi xl seats
six point harness
giro disc conversion with cooling ducts
GT4 rear wing
Tikt front splitter and canards
Tikt fender louvers
KW V4 coilovers
track alignment corner balanced.
You'll likely be better off going back to OEM for a better sales price and sell the mods separately.
I have seen it go both ways. While we have known for decades that "Mods do not add value"....more than once I have seen a buyer see the value add...heck, that is exactly how so many tuners out there got started in the business.
If you return it to stock, what's your obligation to disclose to a buyer that it was heavily modified and tracked? I'd leave it as is, and find a buyer in the track community who knows what he's getting.
You’ll make far more ‘return’ on your investment by removing everything from your GTR and transferring some things, such as the Tikt ducts to the Pro, and selling the rest imho.
You’ll make far more ‘return’ on your investment by removing everything from your GTR and transferring some things, such as the Tikt ducts to the Pro, and selling the rest imho.
Did you get the DCT replaced/repaired yet?
I think you are probably right. Turbos would be a pain. Pro has Tikt ducts already. I could use the seats , harness and roll bar however. KW would be worth taking off and selling. Have originals. Those are 8500 new. Rear wing etc too easy enough to take off and sell….. going to be some work either way.
Very very different animal. In general the buyer of an E63 is a family guy who wants a car with *****. The owner of the GT is in general someone who will plan to take it to a track, or will have dreams of taking it to a track....
Very very different animal. In general the buyer of an E63 is a family guy who wants a car with *****. The owner of the GT is in general someone who will plan to take it to a track, or will have dreams of taking it to a track....
I understand but GT itself stands for grand tourer or something along those lines, it can be a nice cruiser. I do understand where you are coming from though.
It's a pretty nice setup. I'd try selling it to an enthusiast as is. If you can't find someone, then as you suggested, remove the easy / expensive parts and either sell with full disclosure of the extensive track use, or dump it on a dealer. I think it's worth more as is.
Well I never thought I’d sell the car but after driving my friends stock pro with 3k miles I’m convinced it’s worth it. Prices have come down on both a lot. Going to rock that Pro with just Seats and harness and decide if I want more later on.
So thoughts on selling it with all these mods or better to return to stock ?
2018 GTR
Pure Turbos 677 WHP conservative track rune
100 octane tune and TCU tune
catless downpipes
half cage
Recaro Profi xl seats
six point harness
giro disc conversion with cooling ducts
GT4 rear wing
Tikt front splitter and canards
Tikt fender louvers
KW V4 coilovers
track alignment corner balanced.
A bit off topic but what is it exactly that you liked about the Pro that you were not getting from the GTR in your current configuration? I have a GTR that I track alongside my GT3 and a Dodge Viper. I am still getting comfortable with the GTR and just got the right alignment, corner balance and aero for my next run. I have been contemplating a pro, but cant get over the price difference and the potential compromise on the street (I still like to drive my car to work and on dates!) It seems that you are almost there with your setup so I was just curious as to what else you seek to get. BTW, I LOVE the GT4 wing and the front spolier!
Very very different animal. In general the buyer of an E63 is a family guy who wants a car with *****. The owner of the GT is in general someone who will plan to take it to a track, or will have dreams of taking it to a track....
I disagree. Any modded sports car takes a big hit.
Unless you are lucky enough to find an enthusiast that values the mods or doesn't think track time "wrecks" cars. I've seen so many cars flop that SHOULD have gotten top dollar; but for whatever reason modded cars of all types 99% sell for less money then stock cars. The mods aren't even "thrown in free" they actually devalue the vehicle. You have to be extremely lucky to find that one guy that appreciates everything and was planning to do it all themselves anyway, AND they don't realize modded cars sell for less.
Originally Posted by AndrewFerg
It's a pretty nice setup. I'd try selling it to an enthusiast as is. If you can't find someone, then as you suggested, remove the easy / expensive parts and either sell with full disclosure of the extensive track use, or dump it on a dealer. I think it's worth more as is.
If OP is not in a rush this is 100% the laziest (I mean most efficient) way to go. If you find that guy - Bonus. BECAUSE the only thing that is more annoying to sell then modded cars are the used parts off the modded car. LOL. So if you can get _one_ transaction done that moves everything, even if it's not for all the monies, it's so worth it as a seller to sell it modded kinda-close to what you want out of it.
A bit off topic but what is it exactly that you liked about the Pro that you were not getting from the GTR in your current configuration? I have a GTR that I track alongside my GT3 and a Dodge Viper. I am still getting comfortable with the GTR and just got the right alignment, corner balance and aero for my next run. I have been contemplating a pro, but cant get over the price difference and the potential compromise on the street (I still like to drive my car to work and on dates!) It seems that you are almost there with your setup so I was just curious as to what else you seek to get. BTW, I LOVE the GT4 wing and the front spolier!
from what I experienced having tracked the Pro for a whole day and a bit on the street. The Pro has a superior suspension and chasis.
T1 at laguna for instance. I have my KW V4 full stiff in front and two clicks from full stiff rear. Not as stable and composed as the Pro was with same settings. My understanding is that they developed them for the car so they are much more custom. Can really feel how much more solid and stable it is on the street too. Doesn’t scrape out of corkscrew either which is nice. Granted my ride height could be changed and do the same. Another large factor is it has 3k miles cs 25k miles on mine. 10-12 track days vs my 44. Putting new transmission in mine so the wear is well wearing on my mind a bit. I do like this color a bit better too. Car will always hold a higher value. Very comparable to GT3 vs GT3 RS. Both great and very similar. I also liked the facelift features and switching drive modes on steering wheel. Honestly wasn’t expecting such a big difference given all the work I have done. I ran back to back 1:34.0 on a stock pro my first time on track with it with factory seats which were. Awful and much harder to drive. Seats and harness I’m confident I’d be 32s next time out. Might not even upgrade the power like I did on mine.
I disagree. Any modded sports car takes a big hit.
Unless you are lucky enough to find an enthusiast that values the mods or doesn't think track time "wrecks" cars. I've seen so many cars flop that SHOULD have gotten top dollar; but for whatever reason modded cars of all types 99% sell for less money then stock cars. The mods aren't even "thrown in free" they actually devalue the vehicle. You have to be extremely lucky to find that one guy that appreciates everything and was planning to do it all themselves anyway, AND they don't realize modded cars sell for less.
If OP is not in a rush this is 100% the laziest (I mean most efficient) way to go. If you find that guy - Bonus. BECAUSE the only thing that is more annoying to sell then modded cars are the used parts off the modded car. LOL. So if you can get _one_ transaction done that moves everything, even if it's not for all the monies, it's so worth it as a seller to sell it modded kinda-close to what you want out of it.
Good luck!
Depending on the mod, I think the problem is potential buyers think if people mod a car, they might be driving it hard or "abuse" it, like for example if they tune it. I don't think many buyers would want a tuned vehicle for example. Another thing is mods add a personal touch, to make something unique so a personal choice/preference thing, as unique human beings we all are, someone liking something doesn't mean someone else might like it. Just my random thoughts and personal opinions... Really.
Very low price for a GTR. This is not because of the mods. Over the last year BaT are no longer listing GTRs with reserve over about $100K, forcing its sell price to go down. They are no longer seller's "friendly" or at least neutral.
One question about your KW V4 , did you measure a big difference in lap time ?
1sec , 2sec at Laguna for example ?
I wasn’t dialed in enough to car to know exact difference. I can say they make a massive difference though. Not quite as good as the Pro which I believe uses something closer to the club sport. Night and day difference and improvement over the stock set up, however. Got down to 1:31.08 official and whole session of bottom 1:31s. Earlier in the day I was on multiple mid 29s but hit traffic at T10 and also t11. Optimal were low 29s on that session. My 31s were after lunch. Track was atleast a second slower.
Update : I’m keeping it ! Transmission fixed. Runs amazing. Just drove it around a bit. Love this car !! So many fun memories in it. Going back to plan A and drive it until the wheels fall off. 😁. Classic silver bullet. Pics don’t do justice. Keeping the Pro as well and prob upgrade the turbos on it as well so I dont miss the power and sound when I drive it. Selling 600LT if anyone is interested. 😬
Update : I’m keeping it ! Transmission fixed. Runs amazing. Just drove it around a bit. Love this car !! So many fun memories in it. Going back to plan A and drive it until the wheels fall off. 😁. Classic silver bullet. Pics don’t do justice. Keeping the Pro as well and prob upgrade the turbos on it as well so I dont miss the power and sound when I drive it. Selling 600LT if anyone is interested. 😬
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