2.2L I-4
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Any news on whether they will be bringing it to the US? I read one article a while back, that said it would be available in a C and a GLK.
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That depends on which American you ask. If they are willing to pay 40K for a V6 gas that only gets 16/21 MPG, why wouldn't they pay it for a 4cyl diesel with 204 HP 354 ft/lb and get 34 MPG?
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My guess is that MBUSA might offer it in the C or GLK, starting next year.
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My guess is that MBUSA might offer it in the C or GLK, starting next year.
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Most Americans don't know that. All they see is its a 2.2L 4-banger and the C300 has 25 more hp, costs $2000 less and doesn't need urea refills.
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Even if it did cost $2K more, It would pay for itself pretty quickly at today's diesel vs premium prices. A lot quicker than a hybrid.
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Lets look at something actually comparable, the ML.
ML350 $44,600
ML320 BlueTec $48,600
Difference= $4000
Even if it did cost $2K more, It would pay for itself pretty quickly at today's diesel vs premium prices.
Cheapest Premium $2.56
Cheapest Diesel $2.39
The 350 gets a combined 17mpg, BlueTec gets 20mpg combined.
It would take 70,600 miles to break even, about 8 years of average driving.
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Last I checked, the 320 was a V6 not a V8.
The GL 320 gets 19 combined (mine gets 22 combined) vs GL 450 15 combined. Based on Fueleconomy.gov and fuel prices at the time, to drive 25 miles, a GL 320 cost 2.99 and a GL 450 cost 4.43. However, the GL 320 doesn't have to recuperate anything because it cost less to start with.
The same principal should apply costwise, to the I4 vs V6, only the spread in MPG is much larger.
I have paid as much as $8000 premium for the diesels in my trucks. The real savings has been on the tail end, at re-sale. It remains to be seen where these new diesels will end up in that respect.
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I'm not a big fan of the "pee bucket" myself but we better all get used to them because thay are going to be a part of our lives for the foreseeable future. This also include OTR trucks and heavy equipment which I deal with on a daily basis.
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The last "real" engine Mercedes designed was the OM613.
I'm not a big fan of the "pee bucket" myself but we better all get used to them because thay are going to be a part of our lives for the foreseeable future.
This also include OTR trucks and heavy equipment which I deal with on a daily basis.
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The Euro models will eventually come to the US. Especially when our less than bright country men continue to elect the kinds of folks they're electing now.
Looked at a Ford Transit Connect Wednesday on US soil. Pretty neat car/van. Its in deisel version overseas, but only gas here.....For now... We'll be buying 16 of them as soon as they're available. Hopefully that will help convince Ford and the rest to start bringing over some cool stuff in deisel. Unfortunatley, the economy isn't real great for them to gamble.
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Last I checked, the 320 was a V6 not a V8.
Lets look at something actually comparable, the ML.
ML350 $44,600
ML320 BlueTec $48,600
Difference= $4000
Lets use Colorado, we have some of the lowest prices in the USA.
Cheapest Premium $2.56
Cheapest Diesel $2.39
The 350 gets a combined 17mpg, BlueTec gets 20mpg combined
It would take 70,600 miles to break even, about 8 years of average driving.
Lets look at something actually comparable, the ML.
ML350 $44,600
ML320 BlueTec $48,600
Difference= $4000
Lets use Colorado, we have some of the lowest prices in the USA.
Cheapest Premium $2.56
Cheapest Diesel $2.39
The 350 gets a combined 17mpg, BlueTec gets 20mpg combined
It would take 70,600 miles to break even, about 8 years of average driving.
thats for a non 4-matic ML. the ml350 4matic is 47100 so the difference is only $1500 to get the bluetec. and many have claimed to get 25mpg, so its a no-brainer
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Reality. Its low cost, designed primarily around meeting emissions limits, integrated cam bearings in the valve cover, damage the valve cover and you replace the whole cylinder head, bend a piston oil jet and you replace the whole block, no cylinder sleeves, not rebuildable, etc.
The heads/cams etc. I understand completely however.
btw: Your was is hacked.
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Whats was??
Anyway further the tangent--- the 3.0 is a timing belt. Is the reference to a wrestler good or bad? I've replaced several belts on 1.9 TDI no big deal. The Audi 5000, that I had was a 5 cylinder diesel went great for over 400K until an old bronco ran over it. My point is that small diesels are great, don't knock them.
Anyway further the tangent--- the 3.0 is a timing belt. Is the reference to a wrestler good or bad? I've replaced several belts on 1.9 TDI no big deal. The Audi 5000, that I had was a 5 cylinder diesel went great for over 400K until an old bronco ran over it. My point is that small diesels are great, don't knock them.
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I realize this is OT but the site in your sig was hacked by some Iranian hacker. They posted some message about Obama needing to mind his own business state-side.
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Thanks for the clarification on the sleeves. So when overhaul service is due, what exactly gets replaced? -How durable is this engine as a factor of miles, would you say?
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Thanks for the clarification on the sleeves. So when overhaul service is due, what exactly gets replaced? -How durable is this engine as a factor of miles, would you say?
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Whats was??
Anyway further the tangent--- the 3.0 is a timing belt. Is the reference to a wrestler good or bad? I've replaced several belts on 1.9 TDI no big deal. The Audi 5000, that I had was a 5 cylinder diesel went great for over 400K until an old bronco ran over it. My point is that small diesels are great, don't knock them.
Anyway further the tangent--- the 3.0 is a timing belt. Is the reference to a wrestler good or bad? I've replaced several belts on 1.9 TDI no big deal. The Audi 5000, that I had was a 5 cylinder diesel went great for over 400K until an old bronco ran over it. My point is that small diesels are great, don't knock them.
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So when overhaul service is due, what exactly gets replaced?
