Parshman

I love taking this car on the widey back roads around my house because they are like euro style roads with circle intersections.

Garfunkle_W124

I like winding roads too, but I think I could touch the ground with my thumb due to bad shocks and body roll...ugh. I gotta get that fixed. Bilsteins and sway bars, here I come!!!!

Parshman

I wish I could sell this vehicle to you garfunkle because you have the appreciation for it.

shadowgriffen

talk to the people I linked you to, perhaps they can help you find a collector.

Parshman

sent them an e-mail.

Garfunkle_W124

I wish I had the 20k it deserves. On my list of cars to buy in the next decade, I have these two: 1994 500E and ANY AMG W124. Its too bad, that when I found one of these, I am not prepared to buy . Besides, they are about the same price too. 500E's are quite pricey for 15 year old cars. I really hope someone finds this car and understands its true value. The only problem is, some people need the damn German government to deem in authentic before they buy it. What can you do>

shadowgriffen

Would you buy a Patek Phillipe from a private owner without proper paperwork? I don't think so...

Garfunkle_W124

You have a point (though I don't wear watches), but I have seen the proof that this car is authentic. Parshman got an e-mail straight from Daimler Germany. What more do you need? Its a damn AMG!

Parshman

Well the spec sheet is authenticated by MB germany. I seem to be talking about my car on 2 forums, oh well more publicity i guess..... Another thing I notice is that the people questioning the car have just researched rather then have had their hands on the car. AMG was quirky back in the day and had all type of mods.

Garfunkle_W124

I think you have done all you can to prove authenticity, I just hope someone else sees that. Like I said, and Shadowgriffen said as well, your best bet is selling to a car collector in your area so they can inspect it.

Parshman

Grrrrr only 4 bids on ebay and 43 watchers...........(4 days left though) looks like we are the only 3 responding on here. I'm waitng from a response back from Eliot who gave me his research about AMGs to disprove just seeing if he believes now.

w124uk

It's a 300E 24V with an AMG styling package and AMG suspension - a VIN check brings up the following stuff:


VIN WDB1240311B823769
Model 300 E-24
Chassis 1240311B823769
Engine 104980 12 041713
Transmission 722359 03 756637
Order 0 2 227 02294
Approx. year not defined
Lights BOSCH
Wiper BOSCH
Cab 02128
Dealer Nuernberg branch (227)
Interior leather black / anthracite (271)
Paint
199 metallic blue-black (с 01.01.1983)
Options
221 left front seat, electrically adjustable (с 01.11.1978)
central locking system (с 01.04.1963 по 30.09.1970)
222 right front seat, electrically adjustable (с 01.11.1978)
first aid kit (с 01.11.1962 по 30.09.1970)
243 sports seats, front and rear (с 01.12.1986)
elimination of battery (с 01.01.1964 по 31.08.1971)
260 hydraulic piston pressure reservoir for countries with low temperatures (с 01.09.1964 по 31.07.1965)
elimination of model designation on rear lid (с 01.05.1968)
281 trunk set, (280 SL)
trunk set, 3-piece (с 01.09.1972 по 30.11.1976)
trunk set, 4-piece (с 01.04.1963 по 31.01.1966)
steering wheel with sports design (390 mm dia.) and gearshift lever in leather trim (с 01.05.1990)
steering wheel (390 mm) with sports design (с 01.03.1989)
291 airbag for front passenger
airbag for front passenger (с 01.10.1993)
airbag for driver and front passenger (с 01.07.1987 по 30.09.1993)
airbag for driver and front passenger (if driver airbag standard - then only for passenger)
garment trunk, large (с 01.02.1967 по 31.05.1973)
trunk set, 7-piece (с 01.01.1976 по 31.08.1978)
300 storage box in front tray (с 01.05.1988)
taxi design without compartment wall, taximeter instrument panel (с 01.01.1968 по 31.07.1968)
363
412 electric sliding roof with tilting device (с 01.07.1983)
hydraulic sliding roof, in the rear (с 01.11.1964 по 30.06.1981)
420 automatic transmission, floor shift (с 01.01.1963)
430 headrests in the rear (с 01.01.1977)
safety belts, front and rear (с 01.01.1964 по 31.05.1973)
471 acceleration skid control (ASR) (с 01.07.1984)
special export version for bad road conditions and oil bath air cleaner on export vehicles (с 01.01.1963 по 31.01.1968)
oil bath air cleaner for export vehicles (с 01.02.1968 по 31.12.1976)
531 automatic antenna (с 01.01.1963)
543 exhaust-pipe cover trim (с 01.01.1963 по 28.02.1963)
seat adapter between the front seats, and halogen lamp unit (с 01.01.1967 по 31.12.1972)
sun visor with vanity mirror, illuminated, left and right (с 01.11.1978)
585 Behr air conditioner and electric window lifters (front doors) (с 01.04.1970)
590 heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane (laminated glass), Germany
heat-insulating glass, windshield (с 01.01.1967 по 31.01.1971)
green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, laminated safety glass - Germany (с 01.01.1972)
620 emission control system
ECE version with catalyst technique (с 01.09.1983 по 28.02.1985)
vehicles with catalyst technique (с 01.03.1985)
version for Italy (с 01.01.1967 по 31.08.1969)
645 M+S tires (с 01.10.1963)
653 Englebert tires (с 01.01.1963 по 30.06.1971)
Uniroyal tires (с 01.07.1971 по 30.06.1972)
sports chassis with 8-hole light alloy rims (с 01.01.1990)
662 tyres 275/55 r 17 with light metal wheels (с 01.01.1995)
fixtur for second spare wheel (с 01.01.1963 по 28.02.1963)
10 liters of fuel (с 01.01.1964 по 28.02.1986)
20 liters of fuel (с 01.03.1986 по 30.06.1993)
682 fire extinguisher (с 01.04.1970)
731 wood trim, burred walnut root (с 01.08.1980)
751 Becker radio Grand Prix 2000 vk RDS (с 01.06.1990 по 31.03.1994)
772 amg styling package - front spoiler, side skirts and rear apron (с 02.01.1992)
773 3-piece rear spoiler (с 01.01.1992 по 30.09.1996)
775 radiator grill painted as bodywork (с 01.01.1992 по 28.02.1993)
777 rear muffler in amg design (с 01.01.1992)
779 AMG rims, inner section in mb199 blue black metallic (с 01.01.1992 по 28.02.1993)
AMG sports suspension with 4 AMG light alloy rims and wide tires
781 7.5 x 16 et37 205/55, 1-piece (с 01.01.1978)
873 seat heater for left and right front seats (с 01.02.1984)

Parshman

it is still an amg car, so what is your point?

ZorroAMG

Judging from that list, the car came from the factory as a 300E with a bunch of AMG options. To say it's an AMG car when it was never touched by AMG techs or had ever been at the AMG plant is questionable. Also the problem is most people only think of the Hammer, E36 and E60, as true W124 AMG's since they had the full mod package including engine, suspension and aesthetics.

This car is no more an AMG than a 300E with 500E seats at the factory is a 500E.

Beautiful car nonetheless

Parshman

So you are telling me that because it came frome the factory in germany where they collaborated with AMG, and because the engine wasn't changed that the car is not AMG.... So where is your AMG car then, and how will you prove the stuff is authentic if its not on the factory option list?

CDP

I agree.

ZorroAMG

I don't have an AMG car....unfortunately neither do you. What you DO have is a fully loaded, amazing 300E with AMG parts.

Parshman

Then how do you justify an AMG car then? and with all these now a day cars with amg logos with only there wheels change and exhaust?

ZorroAMG

Read this thread again, a couple of us HAVE mentioned how to distinguish the real from the fake

Your car cannot be sold as an AMG car at AMG prices.

Parshman

what you dont seem to realize is that the japanese car are modded after market by AMG. Now the reason why the vin plates are changed are because the engines are modded. Most of the japanese car started as 300E standard were shipped to japan and then japan dealers would ship them back to AMG to get a face lift. I have read the threads and half of you are in aggrence with me now and the half are not. That fact of the matter is that this car is in my possession, and I knowing the history of know it can have the stamp of AMG. Just because it doesn't have the engine modded does not mean its not an amg car, its from the factory what more do you want. I dont know if the car was sent to amg while in the factories possession or not, but some how it got all the amg parts on it.

shadowgriffen

It Is RARE in it's own right.

But it would be truly hard to sell if you classify it as an AMG car.

Like I said if I were you I would classify it as a RARE 300E with AMG exterior/interior styling, as stated by the factory.

Parshman

I believe the ebay add is showing it that way

w124uk

Well, if someone wants to call it an AMG car, so be it. I'd say it's just a nice Mercedes w124 300E 24V with a styling package. Similarly BMW were selling some 318ti (3 series compact) with an "M" styling package consisting of different side mouldings, M3 bumper and side skirts, M alloys but the car was a 1.9l 318 compact. It desinately isn't an M# despite having a slightly differen suspension and nicer bumpers.
I suppose the guys here argue that your car is not an AMG (re)manufactured car and I'd agree. What they'd call an AMG car is a vehicle that was upgraded at by AMG to improve performance and (less important) looks. Yours is the other way round - standard engine and transmission and sportier looks. Personally I'd rather have a car with an AMG engine with a 260E badge than a 260E with a full AMG body kit ;-) but everyone is different
And your car is a pretty looking car with a full genuine body kit! Good luck with your sale!

Parshman

your right about the remanufactured part originally I had no idea about this car and I miss interpretted it on my original ebay listing. Now basically this car has all the option for amg except the engine mod so i dont know what you want from me. half say yes half say no, its not just the body kit and interior its a differnet piped exhaust, and different suspension. I really have a headache over this car and just want to get rid of it and move on.

ZorroAMG

Not trying to fan the flames but there is only one person in this thread that THINKS it's an authentic AMG besides you. Without facts and proof, his opinion is no more valid than mine. Many of us agree that this great 300E is an AMG kitted (NOTE: Not AMG car) vehicle with other amg parts. I would bet cash that the car never once went to Gossaspach (the "G" in AMG)

Your arguing is not really going to make it authentic, some of us DO know our stuff