1988 300TE - Misfires - Part #2
Just a try!!!
With now no coolant leaking, I still have the coolant smell through my vents so it looks like my heatercore must be leaking.
Right now I would say the heater core is a more important issue because the coolant smell is pretty strong and I actually have to roll the windows down because it gets too bad. Can't take girls in the car when it smells horrible
What am I looking at time-wise for the heater core? It's a relatively cheap part but its the labor that is hard right?
Just a try!!!
As to the injectors...how can I check them exactly? Is there a way to check them or is it simply replace them?
Last edited by ps2cho; Nov 9, 2008 at 10:18 PM.
As to the injectors...how can I check them exactly? Is there a way to check them or is it simply replace them?
IF they are electronic injectors on the 103 you can check the connectors for proper resistance and visually examine the the seals and seats for brittleness, voids or cracking.
As to the injectors...how can I check them exactly? Is there a way to check them or is it simply replace them?
IF they are electronic injectors on the 103 you can check the connectors for proper resistance and visually examine the the seals and seats for brittleness, voids or cracking.
! I also used o-rings as a temporary band-aid on the bottom of the rock hard brittle seals. My idle is now normal for the first time since I have owned the car, stuck at 630-650RPM.
A post with a similar problem exists here, it might be of help:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...d.php?t=199342
! I also used o-rings as a temporary band-aid on the bottom of the rock hard brittle seals. My idle is now normal for the first time since I have owned the car, stuck at 630-650RPM.
A post with a similar problem exists here, it might be of help:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...d.php?t=199342

I believe my problem resides around the head gasket so once I have that done I'll look into other options.
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After some reading I have decided not to replace the timing chain as it seems they are damn near bulletproof. I will just replace the guides and leave it be. I'll save the chain I bought for when it will need to be done seeing as I have no plans to sell the car.
After some reading I have decided not to replace the timing chain as it seems they are damn near bulletproof. I will just replace the guides and leave it be. I'll save the chain I bought for when it will need to be done seeing as I have no plans to sell the car.
Which brings up a question is the m103 or m104 an interference engine, meaning if the timing chain goes and a valve is left full open will the piston impact it on the upstroke?
Which brings up a question is the m103 or m104 an interference engine, meaning if the timing chain goes and a valve is left full open will the piston impact it on the upstroke?
Might be out of action a few weeks as the shop might be closed over christmas....but now's a great time for me with school over with.
Fingers crossed that maybe once I find my coolant leak at the back of the engine it will solve my coolant smells through the vents....I really don't want to have to do the heatercore if possible.
Also no more oil leaks! You can even see them on my sig picture lol....That's what it is like everywhere I go...Got a notice from my apartment that I am no longer allowed to park there due to it!
Man, the odor is nasty to tolerate, seems to stick with you for hours.
Not an expert but I'll say the 103-104's do not have the dread "interference" valve clearance issue. They built these bad boys somewhat old-school... but in a good way.
Man, the odor is nasty to tolerate, seems to stick with you for hours.
Not an expert but I'll say the 103-104's do not have the dread "interference" valve clearance issue. They built these bad boys somewhat old-school... but in a good way.
There is no fogging or leaks at all that I can see...no wet carpets or anything. It is totally intermittent too....it will start smelling real bad then it will go away and all will be fine. It can get real strong though. Its not constant by any means.
Last edited by ps2cho; Dec 18, 2008 at 09:28 PM.
I'll let you guys know how it goes. Plenty of pictures of course.
Are there any coolant hoses at the back of the engine anywhere? Its definitely leaking from the back. I'll find out tomorrow for sure...but if you happen to know maybe I can head down and grab the hose beforehand to make things easier. Not a big deal either way as the head will be at the shop gettin machined.
Should it be an easy access when the head is off?
Would this be the one:

Elaplast
Heater Hose; Engine to Heater Core
For models with chassis serial number through F016101. 1 per car.
??
Last edited by ps2cho; Jan 2, 2009 at 10:56 PM.


Possible Misfire cause? Cracked!!


New Belt going on now




Gonna remove the head without the intake side attached. As far as I understand it is possible, but a little more tricky. Less removed = less potential lost items and problems in general.
Thinking of getting my valve cover and exhaust manifolds powder coated too. Silver valve cover and black exhaust manifolds. What do ya guys think







Here are each of the cylinders in order 1-6. How do they look?






Here is my coolant leak it looks like:

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Overall took me about 8hours including breaks. Didn't run into any major problems which was nice. A bit fiddly taking off the head without the intake manifold and items attached, but I think it was well worth it. Less hassle on putting everything back in.
Gonna take the head to a machine shop on Monday and get them to skim it and check everything over.
I would take one of those nylon type paint strippers you can attach to a rechargable drill and have at those piston tops. Be sure to TDC each one as you work them. Don't be going down in those cylinder walls with anything except a hone and from what I've read in your thread, you're not at that stage yet (or want to be). Send more pics after you've cleaned them. From what I can see, your valves need attention, so a trip to the machinist is spot on. Be sure to tell to him to 'kiss' the head if he resurfaces-due to warp. Otherwise you're going to need valve lash shims etc-I wouldn't go there personally.
You did what I hoped you would do, leaving the intake in place-it just seems logical to me and with like the big FelPro kit, you get a new intake manifold gasket anyway. You gotta figure that dealer MB mechanics are conditioned to charge full book rate for their service work. If they figure out shortcuts (and they all do), you'll still be billed the regular shop rate by the book. On a flat rate schedule, the more cars they can service, the more they get bonus pay-no upside there for the MB owner, however. Indies can be better in this respect.
Be sure and get all your gaskets, including the upper timing chain cover gasket-that one can leak as much as the head gasket in older W124's. Oh yeah, lots of MB mechanics are dead against using RTV or silicone sealant anywhere. There are some alternatives now-there have been many reported cases of RTV & silicone excess finding their way into oil galleries and causing trouble and/or engine failure. Keep those pics coming!

Kevin
Last edited by Real1shepherd; Jan 4, 2009 at 01:49 AM.
I would take one of those nylon type paint strippers you can attach to a rechargable drill and have at those piston tops. Be sure to TDC each one as you work them. Don't be going down in those cylinder walls with anything except a hone and from what I've read in your thread, you're not at that stage yet (or want to be). Send more pics after you've cleaned them. From what I can see, your valves need attention, so a trip to the machinist is spot on. Be sure to tell to him to 'kiss' the head if he resurfaces-due to warp. Otherwise you're going to need valve lash shims etc-I wouldn't go there personally.
You did what I hoped you would do, leaving the intake in place-it just seems logical to me and with like the big FelPro kit, you get a new intake manifold gasket anyway. You gotta figure that dealer MB mechanics are conditioned to charge full book rate for their service work. If they figure out shortcuts (and they all do), you'll still be billed the regular shop rate by the book. On a flat rate schedule, the more cars they can service, the more they get bonus pay-no upside there for the MB owner, however. Indies can be better in this respect.
Be sure and get all your gaskets, including the upper timing chain cover gasket-that one can leak as much as the head gasket in older W124's. Oh yeah, lots of MB mechanics are dead against using RTV or silicone sealant anywhere. There are some alternatives now-there have been many reported cases of RTV & silicone excess finding their way into oil galleries and causing trouble and/or engine failure. Keep those pics coming!

Kevin
I'll keep the silicone sealant in my mind and avoid it. I shouldn't have any need for any either way.
Any ideas where I can find that threaded freeze plug? I'm searching hard but so far nothing.
Last edited by ps2cho; Jan 4, 2009 at 03:17 AM.
I'll keep the silicone sealant in my mind and avoid it. I shouldn't have any need for any either way.
Any ideas where I can find that threaded freeze plug? I'm searching hard but so far nothing.
Worse case scenario on the plug, would be to drill out and tap with the appropriate US size plug in pipe size (IPS). Surely, you'll find a plug somewhere-did you try like a NAPA for metric plugs? I'm anxious to see the pics of your piston tops all scrubbed & pretty, along with the block top!
What head gasket set did you wind up buying?Kevin
Worse case scenario on the plug, would be to drill out and tap with the appropriate US size plug in pipe size (IPS). Surely, you'll find a plug somewhere-did you try like a NAPA for metric plugs? I'm anxious to see the pics of your piston tops all scrubbed & pretty, along with the block top!
What head gasket set did you wind up buying?Kevin


