Passener mirror auto tilt when backing up ..
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Passener mirror auto tilt when backing up ..
I had noticed that the passenger side mirror wasn't always tilting down when backing up even though it was set to auto tilt in the menu ...
Figured it out today .. it only tilts if the selector button for the passenger side mirror (for selecting which mirror you want to adjust) is active.
Is this they way it's supposed to work???? I would check the manual but have no idea where it's run off to ..
Figured it out today .. it only tilts if the selector button for the passenger side mirror (for selecting which mirror you want to adjust) is active.
Is this they way it's supposed to work???? I would check the manual but have no idea where it's run off to ..
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I had noticed that the passenger side mirror wasn't always tilting down when backing up even though it was set to auto tilt in the menu ...
Figured it out today .. it only tilts if the selector button for the passenger side mirror (for selecting which mirror you want to adjust) is active.
Is this they way it's supposed to work???? I would check the manual but have no idea where it's run off to ..
Figured it out today .. it only tilts if the selector button for the passenger side mirror (for selecting which mirror you want to adjust) is active.
Is this they way it's supposed to work???? I would check the manual but have no idea where it's run off to ..
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Mine will tilt down, but then sometimes it won't go back up. I have to press my memory button to make it come back up. Don't know what's going on there.
I never used the feature anyhow, so I just turned it off. It actually distracts me more when I'm reversing.
I never used the feature anyhow, so I just turned it off. It actually distracts me more when I'm reversing.
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I had noticed that the passenger side mirror wasn't always tilting down when backing up even though it was set to auto tilt in the menu ...
Figured it out today .. it only tilts if the selector button for the passenger side mirror (for selecting which mirror you want to adjust) is active.
Is this they way it's supposed to work???? I would check the manual but have no idea where it's run off to ..
Figured it out today .. it only tilts if the selector button for the passenger side mirror (for selecting which mirror you want to adjust) is active.
Is this they way it's supposed to work???? I would check the manual but have no idea where it's run off to ..
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I think this is why the feature was later removed - it created customer complaints from not working properly. I haven't noticed mine not working properly, but I actually don't use it that much and don't pay attention.
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This (what people are stating) is the correct operation of the mirror. If you find that it does not return up again, it might be that you did not have the car in D long enough after having it in reverse. If you put it in P, it will return. The reason there is a lag and the mirror stays down is that sometimes you need to go back and forth from R to D when you are wedging into a parking spot.
I use the tilt mirror every day on both my Audi and my Benz. The Audi's is straight forward in its operation, but the Benz tilts the mirror back up if you are backing up fast. I guess it notices that you would be better off with the mirror up when you are driving in reverse kind of fast. The problem is that when I slow down and then really need to see the curb, it takes quite a while to get the mirror to tilt down again. So I select the other mirror in the power mirror switch and then I press the button back again and the mirror tilts again.
I heard that you can have this feature reactivated on the later model Es that don't have the feature. I find it very useful and use it.
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I use the tilt mirror every day on both my Audi and my Benz. The Audi's is straight forward in its operation, but the Benz tilts the mirror back up if you are backing up fast. I guess it notices that you would be better off with the mirror up when you are driving in reverse kind of fast. The problem is that when I slow down and then really need to see the curb, it takes quite a while to get the mirror to tilt down again. So I select the other mirror in the power mirror switch and then I press the button back again and the mirror tilts again.
I heard that you can have this feature reactivated on the later model Es that don't have the feature. I find it very useful and use it.
Steve
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This (what people are stating) is the correct operation of the mirror. If you find that it does not return up again, it might be that you did not have the car in D long enough after having it in reverse. If you put it in P, it will return. The reason there is a lag and the mirror stays down is that sometimes you need to go back and forth from R to D when you are wedging into a parking spot..
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I had the feature & the problem in my '04, and while I like the feature when it worked perfectly, I don't miss the fact it was deleted in my '07. The less aggravation the better.
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Its not the lag people are talking about... its the fact that the mirror doesn't return every time to the same position it was in before it "looked down". Its close, but not exactly where it should be and therefore doesn't let you see what you had originally set the mirror to see. Pressing the Memory button moves the mirror the final few millemeters back into position.
I had the feature & the problem in my '04, and while I like the feature when it worked perfectly, I don't miss the fact it was deleted in my '07. The less aggravation the better.
I had the feature & the problem in my '04, and while I like the feature when it worked perfectly, I don't miss the fact it was deleted in my '07. The less aggravation the better.
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I'm sure MB is developing better ways to implement options & doo dads. Back in '07, they had to make these cars great again to regain their quality image as fast as possible. Whatever couldn't be made to work perfectly, was turned off or left out of US cars... As they perfect them I see that they are being re introduced.
I can tell you that in MY 2004 car, nothing (fancy) worked 100% as it should have, while in my 2007, every thing thats in it works perfectly. That equals a teriffic ownership experience. So they did the right thing.
The next generation E Class will be a great car. I believe MB learned its lesson with this generation (211) and all its quality/reliability issues.
I can tell you that in MY 2004 car, nothing (fancy) worked 100% as it should have, while in my 2007, every thing thats in it works perfectly. That equals a teriffic ownership experience. So they did the right thing.
The next generation E Class will be a great car. I believe MB learned its lesson with this generation (211) and all its quality/reliability issues.
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Personally this feature is great when I am parallel parking against the curb. Save me from curb rash. I turn it off when I am just backing out of a space.
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My "Driver 3" is exactly the same as "Driver 1" except that the right mirror is memorized dipped to the curb. When I'm done I push "Driver 1". Thats my work around solution. Works every time, unlike my '04. LOL
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there was a software glitch that not only did not work the miror it interefered with other computer and software funtions,,
dealer mechanics told me about it today,
jesus you would think mercedes could fix that and figure out how to work a mirror if they have the more complicated ECU working fine lol
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I use mine ALL the time, it's a must. It's another thing that baffles me about the options cutting/interior regressions/cost cutting in the face-lifted models. Mine works 100% so far (knock on wood). I understand M-B would want the '07's to be more problem free, but minimizing the technology/luxury aspects aren't the way to go for a car like this, I mean it's not like it should be difficult for them to offer a problem free mirror-dipper? BMW has had that feature for years.
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I use mine ALL the time, it's a must. It's another thing that baffles me about the options cutting/interior regressions/cost cutting in the face-lifted models. Mine works 100% so far (knock on wood). I understand M-B would want the '07's to be more problem free, but minimizing the technology/luxury aspects aren't the way to go for a car like this, I mean it's not like it should be difficult for them to offer a problem free mirror-dipper? BMW has had that feature for years.
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I guess I can understand that considering how big a fiasco the 211's were out of the box. I'm just thrilled mine has it though as I personally need it with my *****ty parking skills. I'd do the Memory thing as well if it didn't have it.
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not what I heard from 2 master merc mechanics and a service manager,,
and sales manager,, merc has dropped the auto tilt side mirrors,, and no plans to make it come back in 2010 or 11,
in fact I quote the sames manager at one of my dealers,,
"they will bring back the autotild side mirrors when they bring back the
electronic bosch wired computer brakes, in other words a cold day in hell"
lol that pretty much sumed it up for me , I think they would know
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Personally I think it was simply a cost cutting measure at the end of the day, which is something M-B is doing a lot of. Not only did they remove more and more as the 211 grew, but I've heard the 212 will sell for less than the 211, which assumes it may cost less to build, I have no factual data on that of course though....
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Personally I think it was simply a cost cutting measure at the end of the day, which is something M-B is doing a lot of. Not only did they remove more and more as the 211 grew, but I've heard the 212 will sell for less than the 211, which assumes it may cost less to build, I have no factual data on that of course though....
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Personally I think it was simply a cost cutting measure at the end of the day, which is something M-B is doing a lot of. Not only did they remove more and more as the 211 grew, but I've heard the 212 will sell for less than the 211, which assumes it may cost less to build, I have no factual data on that of course though....
well agreed, if you have seen the new E class in person as I have it looks like ****,, cheap as hell interior, looks like leftover chrysler parts for the 300 as in the C class.. plastic galore,,
all the car magazines are saying this too.. its sad...
way to much angular plastic looks so american interior..
the front if the car is beautiful, and the back is ugly as sin, looks like a new civic or hundai.. and the creased square sheetmetal looks and feels think, tinny and cheap..
trust me, the 09 and prior models are way more attractive..
after losing some 16 billion of buying and selling chrysler, mercedes is looking to save money,, so watch out.. on the new models, or replacement parts
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but what if...mirror dysfunction
Very annoying and dangerous if i do not remember to manually adjust once underway. This problem will surface for a few weeks and then amazingly, it goes away for a few weeks, then returns. I check my selection to make sure it is still "off" but find that it still malfunctions. It is bizarre. I have had many electrical problems over the years and find that my dealer is not much better at solving some things than I am. I'd like to arm myself with some info before going in to see them. Any help appreciated.
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Unless you can reproduce the symptom while at the dealer, Mom, then it's going to be difficult to convince them that it's not working as it should. They might be able to flash the module that controls the mirrors to see if that resolves the issue.
I have mine disabled, and it has never disobeyed the off setting. I rarely used it so if I need to dip it I do so manually (well, manually using the adjustment switch) then just use the seat memory switch to return it to it's normal position.
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I have mine disabled, and it has never disobeyed the off setting. I rarely used it so if I need to dip it I do so manually (well, manually using the adjustment switch) then just use the seat memory switch to return it to it's normal position.
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I have the autotilt mirror function turned OFF (triple checked and have to check frequently) but continue to have the problem of the mirror tilting down anyway for backup and not returning after it is in drive for a while.
Very annoying and dangerous if i do not remember to manually adjust once underway. . . Any help appreciated.
Very annoying and dangerous if i do not remember to manually adjust once underway. . . Any help appreciated.
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well agreed, if you have seen the new E class in person as I have it looks like ****,, cheap as hell interior, looks like leftover chrysler parts for the 300 as in the C class.. plastic galore,,
all the car magazines are saying this too.. its sad...
way to much angular plastic looks so american interior..
the front if the car is beautiful, and the back is ugly as sin, looks like a new civic or hundai.. and the creased square sheetmetal looks and feels think, tinny and cheap..
trust me, the 09 and prior models are way more attractive..
after losing some 16 billion of buying and selling chrysler, mercedes is looking to save money,, so watch out.. on the new models, or replacement parts
all the car magazines are saying this too.. its sad...
way to much angular plastic looks so american interior..
the front if the car is beautiful, and the back is ugly as sin, looks like a new civic or hundai.. and the creased square sheetmetal looks and feels think, tinny and cheap..
trust me, the 09 and prior models are way more attractive..
after losing some 16 billion of buying and selling chrysler, mercedes is looking to save money,, so watch out.. on the new models, or replacement parts
I agree about the majorly overly-angular interior, and that exterior crease is just so unnecessary and not attractive as well IMO. Didn't Cadillac start that? Everyone's doing it and M-B seems to be on a copy-cat tip.