Instrument cluster totally dead, nothing works
Before the instrument cluster was dead, when I start the car. Starter motor has difficulties to start, slow cranking speed as if it is lack of battery power. I have to push the gas pedal to get the car started. Ever since instrument panel stopped working, the starter motor seems gain more power with the SAME old battery, cranking very easily without pumping gas pedal to get the car started. I read from an article suggest, may be, the instrument cluster is cut off from power supplier to save battery power if there is no sufficient CCA.
Except instructment cluster, everything else is working: radio, AC, fans, interior lights and lights on shifts and doors. Also, exterior lights and signal lights are still working despite instrument panel is dead.
Please help to diagnose and fix the dead instructment cluster. Here are a few thoughts and questions myself:
(1). Is there fuse that controls the instrument cluster power supplier? If there is, where is the fuse. I checked the battery. It gets more 12V voltage. When the car is running, it has more than 14V at main battery terminal, showing alternator is working. However, Aux battery is still at same 12.5V. Looks like the Aux battery is not connected to the charger (alternator).
(2). Is the instructment cluster power get shut off from the battery control unit? An article suggest the MB battery control unit may shut down power to some of electronics to save battery current power consumption. However, instrument cluster seems to be very import and why does the battery control unit shut down power suppliers to instrument cluster
(3). I tried to clump a portable power battery (ones tow truck uses to jump start car) to both main battery and Aux battery to see whether I can get the instrument cluster back. It does not work
(4). Also, I bought new a SLA (sealed lead acid) battery, the new battery is drained less than 4 V from (I measured voltage is 12.5V before I put it on) as soon as I connected to the car. So, I disconnected immediately and put the old AGM back. Everything is work except the dead cluster.
Please help!!!
Thanks
Last edited by konigstiger; Jan 3, 2022 at 09:22 AM.
Quick question: My car key was wet since it is washed in a wishing machine. I got the key dried and the key is functional now, able to open/lock the cars with the dried old key. Is RFID working only thing. needed to repair the key fob? I worried the key fob not fully functional now, disabling some of modules or computers inside the car.
Appreciate your help!
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If the circuit in the ignition system of the vehicle does not recognize the key (with or w/o the battery), the car should not react in any way or form. Damaged chip in the key?
By the way, any body has electrical wiring diagram to and from the instrument cluster?
used a circuit tester and found that the fuses for the instrument cluster #52, #64 have current supplies. I do not know whether circuits from fuses #52 and #F64 go directly to instrument clusters. If the two fuses lead directly to instrument cluster, then I had a dead/defect instrument cluster. I will just buy a used instrument cluster and replace with the instrument cluster.
Appreciate your help!
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Last edited by deyuzhou; Jan 4, 2022 at 09:55 PM. Reason: emphasize wiring diagram
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P203E-4 MIL ON&Stored&Current. No CAN message from Instrument cluster (IC) or message faulty. Communication fault/Please referen the CAN status in Freeze Frame Data (FFD) as well (P0600)
Looks like it is a dead instrument cluster.




Have you ever had water intrusion in this vehicle? Corrosion/Bad contact from the instrument cluster to else?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/3951020-post1.html
Last edited by JCM_MB; Jan 6, 2022 at 08:02 PM.
.Before the IC was dead, battery hardly can crank the car. Starter cranking speed is very, very low as if the battery is dead and I have to pump gas while start the car. Ever since the IC is dead (not displaying anything), the same OLD battery now can crank the car happily, good cranking speed and normal starter sound. The car can start very easily and happily without pumping gas and battery seems have plenty of power!
So, I suspect some of the components inside IC are aging, drawing high current. The high current draw eventually burnt the components inside the IC.
I purchased an. used IC. Wish me luck! Once I get the used IC, I will change and update the results :-)
Thanks for your help and support!
Last edited by deyuzhou; Jan 6, 2022 at 08:01 PM. Reason: correct a typo




https://mbworld.org/forums/cls-coupe...ml#post5961112
Thank for the video link on CAN wiring! If I am not lucky after trying to replace the IC, I will dig through the wiring.
Konigstiger and Juanmore40: Thank you very much for your help, guidance!
thanks
I had exact same issue with my car. Cluster was totally dead headlight beam on and car was driving just fine.
First thing i did was check all the fuses even not IC ones. Fuses were ok.
Then i removed cluster and opened up PCB unit then assembled all back together and then used 12v adapter to check if IC was ok. And thankfully it turned on. (pin 1 (ground) pin 4 (12v) pin 6(12v))
Knowing that IC was good i put it back to my car but nothing worked only clock was turning no light nothing even after starting my car. So what i did was removed the cluster again then turned my key to on position after that i plugged the cluster surprise surprise it actually turned on.
To be honest i dont know actually what happened. This actually worked for me. So some might find it useful hopefully it works for you too.




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Before the instrument cluster was dead, when I start the car. Starter motor has difficulties to start, slow cranking speed as if it is lack of battery power. I have to push the gas pedal to get the car started. Ever since instrument panel stopped working, the starter motor seems gain more power with the SAME old battery, cranking very easily without pumping gas pedal to get the car started. I read from an article suggest, may be, the instrument cluster is cut off from power supplier to save battery power if there is no sufficient CCA.
Except instructment cluster, everything else is working: radio, AC, fans, interior lights and lights on shifts and doors. Also, exterior lights and signal lights are still working despite instrument panel is dead.
Please help to diagnose and fix the dead instructment cluster. Here are a few thoughts and questions myself:
(1). Is there fuse that controls the instrument cluster power supplier? If there is, where is the fuse. I checked the battery. It gets more 12V voltage. When the car is running, it has more than 14V at main battery terminal, showing alternator is working. However, Aux battery is still at same 12.5V. Looks like the Aux battery is not connected to the charger (alternator).
(2). Is the instructment cluster power get shut off from the battery control unit? An article suggest the MB battery control unit may shut down power to some of electronics to save battery current power consumption. However, instrument cluster seems to be very import and why does the battery control unit shut down power suppliers to instrument cluster
(3). I tried to clump a portable power battery (ones tow truck uses to jump start car) to both main battery and Aux battery to see whether I can get the instrument cluster back. It does not work
(4). Also, I bought new a SLA (sealed lead acid) battery, the new battery is drained less than 4 V from (I measured voltage is 12.5V before I put it on) as soon as I connected to the car. So, I disconnected immediately and put the old AGM back. Everything is work except the dead cluster.
Please help!!!
Thanks
Last edited by Rob Thorud; Apr 22, 2023 at 07:52 PM.


