2012 E350 and 2018 E300 rims and tires
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2012 E350 and 2018 E300 rims and tires
I literally just acquired what I think is a Diamond in the rough! A 2012 E350 with AMG wheels that is a one owner car and was ONLY and EVER serviced at MB for the last 11 years. I actually have all of the service work ever done to it (6 pages) via my MB dealership connection. So, I am happy to be back in the W212 crew!
I also have a 2018 E300 from new that also has the AMG wheels for that year. I have some aftermarket Vossens on the car so my stock rims and tires (brand new) have been sitting on a rack in my garage.
Would anyone know if I can swap my staggered 2012 rims and tires (245/40/18 front and 265/35/18 rear) to my 2018 square rims and tires (245/40/19)? Obviously the TPMS sensor would need to be changed as they work on different megahertz. Anyone have a setup like this? Any ride issues if so?
Any help would be appreciated.
I also have a 2018 E300 from new that also has the AMG wheels for that year. I have some aftermarket Vossens on the car so my stock rims and tires (brand new) have been sitting on a rack in my garage.
Would anyone know if I can swap my staggered 2012 rims and tires (245/40/18 front and 265/35/18 rear) to my 2018 square rims and tires (245/40/19)? Obviously the TPMS sensor would need to be changed as they work on different megahertz. Anyone have a setup like this? Any ride issues if so?
Any help would be appreciated.
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245/40R18
I used Michelin Pilot numbers from tirerack for this.
I withhold any opinion on this, I prefer tires with more sidewall for a better/quieter ride and less chance of bending/breaking the rims on potholes.
- overall diameter: 25.7"
- revs per mile: 809
- overall diameter: 25.5"
- revs per mile: 816
- overall diameter: 26.7"
- revs per mile: 778
I used Michelin Pilot numbers from tirerack for this.
I withhold any opinion on this, I prefer tires with more sidewall for a better/quieter ride and less chance of bending/breaking the rims on potholes.
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245/40R18
I used Michelin Pilot numbers from tirerack for this.
I withhold any opinion on this, I prefer tires with more sidewall for a better/quieter ride and less chance of bending/breaking the rims on potholes.
- overall diameter: 25.7"
- revs per mile: 809
- overall diameter: 25.5"
- revs per mile: 816
- overall diameter: 26.7"
- revs per mile: 778
I used Michelin Pilot numbers from tirerack for this.
I withhold any opinion on this, I prefer tires with more sidewall for a better/quieter ride and less chance of bending/breaking the rims on potholes.
Thanks for the info!! Not sure how to interpret it but good info indeed.
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if the car is a 4matic, its critical that the front and rear wheels have the same ratio as they did from the factory.
both cars stock wheel size likely was 245/40R18, so the 809 revs per mile number is 'correct'. assuming the car came with 245/40R18 on both axles, the speedometer is correct at 809 revs per mile, and the speedometer comes off the rear wheels via the transmission, then a 265/35r18 rear is probably reading off by about 1/2 mile per hour at 60, not a very significant difference. The 19" wheel is about 3 MPH different at 60MPH than the 265/35R18, that starts becoming significant., as this 5% error affects the odometer also, so any MPG computations are wrong.
both cars stock wheel size likely was 245/40R18, so the 809 revs per mile number is 'correct'. assuming the car came with 245/40R18 on both axles, the speedometer is correct at 809 revs per mile, and the speedometer comes off the rear wheels via the transmission, then a 265/35r18 rear is probably reading off by about 1/2 mile per hour at 60, not a very significant difference. The 19" wheel is about 3 MPH different at 60MPH than the 265/35R18, that starts becoming significant., as this 5% error affects the odometer also, so any MPG computations are wrong.
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if the car is a 4matic, its critical that the front and rear wheels have the same ratio as they did from the factory.
both cars stock wheel size likely was 245/40R18, so the 809 revs per mile number is 'correct'. assuming the car came with 245/40R18 on both axles, the speedometer is correct at 809 revs per mile, and the speedometer comes off the rear wheels via the transmission, then a 265/35r18 rear is probably reading off by about 1/2 mile per hour at 60, not a very significant difference. The 19" wheel is about 3 MPH different at 60MPH than the 265/35R18, that starts becoming significant., as this 5% error affects the odometer also, so any MPG computations are wrong.
both cars stock wheel size likely was 245/40R18, so the 809 revs per mile number is 'correct'. assuming the car came with 245/40R18 on both axles, the speedometer is correct at 809 revs per mile, and the speedometer comes off the rear wheels via the transmission, then a 265/35r18 rear is probably reading off by about 1/2 mile per hour at 60, not a very significant difference. The 19" wheel is about 3 MPH different at 60MPH than the 265/35R18, that starts becoming significant., as this 5% error affects the odometer also, so any MPG computations are wrong.
Other than the MPG and MPH being off a bit, is there any issue making the 2018's work on the 2012? BTW the car is not a 4matic.
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So I did thee install in my garage and went for a drive and immediately heard rubbing. The front tires did rub on the strut housing a bit. Didn't notice it until after. I would probably need spacers or a lower profile tire. Decisions, decisions. Will see!!!
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I just realized, the car the 19's came from is a W213, those have different suspension geometry and quite likely different offsets. I think my eyes saw 2016 originally, and I assumed they were 19's from another W212.
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Yep!! I'm. little cloudy on offsets and such. I do things the hard way! Spend an hour installing and not checking then trying to drive and do the whole reverse process. I'll just say that the rims from the w213 look amazing on it. I will figure out an alternative. The inner gun metal color of the w213 rim matches the steel grey perfectly.
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Yep!! I'm. little cloudy on offsets and such. I do things the hard way! Spend an hour installing and not checking then trying to drive and do the whole reverse process. I'll just say that the rims from the w213 look amazing on it. I will figure out an alternative. The inner gun metal color of the w213 rim matches the steel grey perfectly.
Stock rims.
With the W213 rims.
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Yes, W212 vs W213 - I just put W213 17" wheels on my W212. The W213 wheels have a 40mm offset which mounts them 8mm further outboard than the original W212 wheels with the 48mm offset. The wheels are also thicker than the W212 wheels which required me to change to 43mm wheel bolts (16mm longer than the originals).
So, with the new wheels supposedly more outboard when mounted (unless the 19"s are different offset-wise), I don't get how they are rubbing the strut. Maybe because the wheel/tire assembly is a bit taller than the original?
You should get at least 6 full turns of the wheel bolt when mounting the wheels, but I think it should be much more than that. Like I said, my new bolts are 16mm longer. Did you get that? On mine I would have been lucky to get one or two with the original bolts.
So, with the new wheels supposedly more outboard when mounted (unless the 19"s are different offset-wise), I don't get how they are rubbing the strut. Maybe because the wheel/tire assembly is a bit taller than the original?
You should get at least 6 full turns of the wheel bolt when mounting the wheels, but I think it should be much more than that. Like I said, my new bolts are 16mm longer. Did you get that? On mine I would have been lucky to get one or two with the original bolts.
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Yes, W212 vs W213 - I just put W213 17" wheels on my W212. The W213 wheels have a 40mm offset which mounts them 8mm further outboard than the original W212 wheels with the 48mm offset. The wheels are also thicker than the W212 wheels which required me to change to 43mm wheel bolts (16mm longer than the originals).
So, with the new wheels supposedly more outboard when mounted (unless the 19"s are different offset-wise), I don't get how they are rubbing the strut. Maybe because the wheel/tire assembly is a bit taller than the original?
You should get at least 6 full turns of the wheel bolt when mounting the wheels, but I think it should be much more than that. Like I said, my new bolts are 16mm longer. Did you get that? On mine I would have been lucky to get one or two with the original bolts.
So, with the new wheels supposedly more outboard when mounted (unless the 19"s are different offset-wise), I don't get how they are rubbing the strut. Maybe because the wheel/tire assembly is a bit taller than the original?
You should get at least 6 full turns of the wheel bolt when mounting the wheels, but I think it should be much more than that. Like I said, my new bolts are 16mm longer. Did you get that? On mine I would have been lucky to get one or two with the original bolts.
Yes my bolts that I used were 43mm as well. You have 17's? The 19's definitely rub on the front strut. Definitely a height issue with the AMG 19 rim. Thinking a spacer may help the situation and/or a lower profile tire in the front. Need to do some research. I had a similar issue with the vossens on the w213 going from 19's to 20's and a spacer solved the problem.
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A lower profile than a /35? That will have NO sidewall and a horribly rough ride on anything other than a glassy smooth racetrack.
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