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Old Oct 31, 2024 | 04:01 AM
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Bilstein B4, cheap and awesome

Gents,

I have abused this Bilstein B4 at the track, it is good enough
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...helin-ps4.html

Now I am on B4 in front and B6 at the rear, tires is now Michelin Pilot Sport 5, as the PS4 is probably on its end of life, I can't get them.

The trip I made for snakey road driving gave me the chance to experience pot hole free roads, very little traffic in front of me and nice long and short corners.
The trip is here : https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ad-i-seek.html

I planned the trip to be on Wednesday, which is working day, so less traffic at this popular week-end holiday destination.

Below is a video of a simple quick driving and not super fast high G cornering.
I was playing with fast steering direction change for the heck-fun of it...... and the Bilstein B4 does not disappoint.
The Michelin PS5 on this trip is already about 3,000KM old and has passed its "slippery when-new-state" which usually is up to the first 1,500KM ish.

I hope the youtube video compression won't distort much the video quality, which this video is already a 2nd edit.

The steering command to actual directional change is very impressive for such a cheap damper and more comfy than the OE SACHS.
The OE SACHS you can not ever have this kind of fine fast minute lane correction capability. It will be more boat like, body roll without the car changing direction this fast.
The OE SACHS is a piece-of-SHI-ET and scary SHI-ET if I do fast lane change at 100 MPH or faster, even at simple 5-8 degrees correction.

The obvious B4 good steering response one would be at these video minutes :

These 3 seconds, top image and bottom screen capture.




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If your eyes is fast enough, you can see in video I was avoiding this rock from the car "shake".



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This one is smooth-quick lane change to avoid the bus, my left tire has to cross over the white line end of lane limit, no choice and I was fortunate there is tarmac there ( entry to a resort )
and not grass or rock or ditch.



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After this bus, the next left corner also shows the steering response from B4 and PS5.


I am loving Bilstein B4 more than ever for its better than OE comfort and quietness and its very respectable sporty driving behavior in a Grand Touring way, not harsh sport car type of ride.
I still do not want B6 at the front, I do not want to loose the comfort, only the rear is B6 , that I am fine with.


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Old Oct 31, 2024 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by S-Prihadi
Gents,

I have abused this Bilstein B4 at the track, it is good enough
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...helin-ps4.html

Now I am on B4 in front and B6 at the rear, tires is now Michelin Pilot Sport 5, as the PS4 is probably on its end of life, I can't get them.

The trip I made for snakey road driving gave me the chance to experience pot hole free roads, very little traffic in front of me and nice long and short corners.
The trip is here : https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...ad-i-seek.html

I planned the trip to be on Wednesday, which is working day, so less traffic at this popular week-end holiday destination.

Below is a video of a simple quick driving and not super fast high G cornering.
I was playing with fast steering direction change for the heck-fun of it...... and the Bilstein B4 does not disappoint.
The Michelin PS5 on this trip is already about 3,000KM old and has passed its "slippery when-new-state" which usually is up to the first 1,500KM ish.

I hope the youtube video compression won't distort much the video quality, which this video is already a 2nd edit.
https://youtu.be/VwVxCDQ15E0

The steering command to actual directional change is very impressive for such a cheap damper and more comfy than the OE SACHS.
The OE SACHS you can not ever have this kind of fine fast minute lane correction capability. It will be more boat like, body roll without the car changing direction this fast.
The OE SACHS is a piece-of-SHI-ET and scary SHI-ET if I do fast lane change at 100 MPH or faster, even at simple 5-8 degrees correction.

The obvious B4 good steering response one would be at these video minutes :
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...cf80899a9c.jpg
These 3 seconds, top image and bottom screen capture.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b8884f55fa.jpg


--------------------------

If your eyes is fast enough, you can see in video I was avoiding this rock from the car "shake".
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...5a0e195a1f.jpg


--------------


This one is smooth-quick lane change to avoid the bus, my left tire has to cross over the white line end of lane limit, no choice and I was fortunate there is tarmac there ( entry to a resort )
and not grass or rock or ditch.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...2436e78f83.jpg

.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bf52f2372e.jpg

After this bus, the next left corner also shows the steering response from B4 and PS5.


I am loving Bilstein B4 more than ever for its better than OE comfort and quietness and its very respectable sporty driving behavior in a Grand Touring way, not harsh sport car type of ride.
I still do not want B6 at the front, I do not want to loose the comfort, only the rear is B6 , that I am fine with.


END OF REVIEW
neat stuff!
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Bilstein doesn't like the E400 S212 :-( Both my country's distributor and Bilstein's corporate website do not have listings!





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Get the OE part numbers for your car and the E350, or another model as close to yours as you can determine. I suspect they will be the same, If so, you know what to buy.
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Get the OE part numbers for your car and the E350, or another model as close to yours as you can determine. I suspect they will be the same, If so, you know what to buy.

My E350 Sport RWD has about 90K miles, and I have been thinking about new shocks. I wondered if the B4 is the correct one as far as ride and performance go and now I know. It was very nice to see that actual driving review, including the tires that I will also purchase.
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Old Oct 31, 2024 | 11:09 PM
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I agree 100% with this review. I was stunned how flat my car handles now with improved comfort with the B4's and I got them because they were (I am) cheap. The car is so easy to place where every I want it on the road now.
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Originally Posted by need2speed
Bilstein doesn't like the E400 S212 :-( Both my country's distributor and Bilstein's corporate website do not have listings!

Give me your VIN, I will try to check with EPC
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Give me your VIN, I will try to check with EPC
thanks, message sent...
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Originally Posted by need2speed
thanks, message sent...

Aha, E400 Wagon for rear spring is air spring, never steel spring...wow, I never know that.
Ur model is 212.267 and suspension code is 677




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Your Rear Damper A212 320 47 30 is also used on these Wagons



It is just that E400 is never sold in high quantity , as such it is often forgotten by 3rd party vendors.
Adding to this misery, USA 2014 E400 is actually a hybrid 3.5NA and mot 3.0 Turbo like in 2015. So it is confusing.
And, yours being a WAGON and a 4-Matic, that is even more rare ...I mean the Wagon part.


Here is the B4 or B6 P/N you need :

W212.267 E400 Station Wagon

Rear Damper A212 320 47 30
If B4 24-194136
If B6 24-191128


Front Damper A212 323 59 00
If B4 22-197665
If B6 35-191117



REAR - B4


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REAR - B6




FRONT - B4


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FRONT - B6




The Wagon rear damper seems to be different length than the sedan.

If E400 Sedan and 4 matic.
W212.067 E400 4-matic sedan, with 677 steel spring suspension and year code 804 , 805, 806

Front Damper A212 323 59 00 <<< same as your Wagon


Rear Damper A212 320 46 30
If B4 24-194112 <<< same as E400/E350/E300/E250 Sedan RWD
If B6 24-166874 <<< same as E400/E350/E300/E250 Sedan RWD


Happy shopping........

Happy shopping....


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For those wanting the Bisltein file, find attached

Remember, Excel search is very specific, no space and with space makes a different.
Bilstein wrote MB part number with spaces, so you got to follow that.

Use : 212 323 59 00
and not 2123235900
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Brilliant, thanks again!
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Here is what comes up when I search Bilstein's International site. Still no S212 E400 so I had to query E350 fitments. The results match your recommendations except in B6 at the front. I'm beginning to think I'm driving a unicorn!
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*ALL* US model E wagons going back to the S123 (1976-1986) have had load leveling rear suspension, the earlier ones were the lovely albeit complex Hydro-pneumatic, while more recent models are airmatic. I believe the S211 were airmatic, I'm not sure about the S210 wagons.
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Originally Posted by need2speed
Here is what comes up when I search Bilstein's International site. Still no S212 E400 so I had to query E350 fitments. The results match your recommendations except in B6 at the front. I'm beginning to think I'm driving a unicorn!
I think there is an updated P/N for front B6. Since my file is a 2018.
This is B6 based on new Bilstein P/N 22-309822 <<< I can't find this number on my 2018 file
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...17#description

Replaces Bilstein : 35-191117 ( as per 2018 file ), 22-309822
For MB P/N : 2123235800 and 2123235900




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