Mercedes is going full speed ahead to produce highly efficient EVs
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Mercedes is going full speed ahead to produce highly efficient EVs
In race for efficient EVs, Mercedes taps F1 team to keep up with Tesla
How do I turn this into a link? It’s a very interesting article from CNBC.
How do I turn this into a link? It’s a very interesting article from CNBC.
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https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...la-2023-05-02/
Interview with Mercedes F1 principal Toto Wolff on Mercedes EV program here
Interview starts at 2:23
Interview with Mercedes F1 principal Toto Wolff on Mercedes EV program here
Interview starts at 2:23
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https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...la-2023-05-02/
Interview with Mercedes F1 principal Toto Wolff on Mercedes EV program here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRiZ0thrN5A
Interview starts at 2:23
Interview with Mercedes F1 principal Toto Wolff on Mercedes EV program here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRiZ0thrN5A
Interview starts at 2:23
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That article bodes the question, why wasn’t Mercedes going for all this high efficiency from the beginning of the EQ concept? It also discusses a more aerodynamic design in future models. I thought the EQ was as aerodynamic as possible or will future cars all look like F1 racers? 😊
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Also from last week, MotoMan meets up with Christoph Starzynski, formerly the Head of Development for @MercedesBenz EQ electric vehicles, he is now the Head of all Mercedes Benz passenger car development:
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That article bodes the question, why wasn’t Mercedes going for all this high efficiency from the beginning of the EQ concept? It also discusses a more aerodynamic design in future models. I thought the EQ was as aerodynamic as possible or will future cars all look like F1 racers? 😊
Probably one area that the F1 tech not too applicable to EQ cars.
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It's easy to achieve efficiency like Tesla ignoring refinement, noise, luxury, vibration and comfort.
Achieving noise isolation and refinement takes a lot of weight, there is no way around physics. In addition, I mean Tesla didn't even bother to put in decent equipment like an instrument panel, HUD, proper rain sensor, ultrasonic sensors, radar, front camera (and the list goes on...) for their Model 3/Y
With increased weight from higher level of luxury, equipment and refinement, you will inevitably reduce efficiency.
Just like I don't buy ICE car based on best fuel consumption, most EV buyers won't consider efficiency as deal breakers as long as it is decent; range is much more important.
Achieving noise isolation and refinement takes a lot of weight, there is no way around physics. In addition, I mean Tesla didn't even bother to put in decent equipment like an instrument panel, HUD, proper rain sensor, ultrasonic sensors, radar, front camera (and the list goes on...) for their Model 3/Y
With increased weight from higher level of luxury, equipment and refinement, you will inevitably reduce efficiency.
Just like I don't buy ICE car based on best fuel consumption, most EV buyers won't consider efficiency as deal breakers as long as it is decent; range is much more important.
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Only for the same size battery.
I won't care about "best" efficiency if it is done at the expense of refinement and luxury.
If they have to use a larger battery to make up for the decrease in efficiency, so be it.
That's why I will not consider any of the current Teslas, even if they can achieve world record "efficiency".
I won't care about "best" efficiency if it is done at the expense of refinement and luxury.
If they have to use a larger battery to make up for the decrease in efficiency, so be it.
That's why I will not consider any of the current Teslas, even if they can achieve world record "efficiency".
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lots of Tesla drivers said their consumption is great but convert to range is not the same number. for example, 5mi/kwh with 100kwh battery should gives total of 500 mi range. my friend shows me his model 3p on app is 5.1mi/kwh but there is no way he can drive over 300mi from 100% to 0%. he said his battery size is somewhat 75kwh
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I want both efficiency and refinement. While I agree that refinement requires some weight, all weight does not translate into refinement. Mercedes should be both refined and efficient and should be priced accordingly.
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lots of Tesla drivers said their consumption is great but convert to range is not the same number. for example, 5mi/kwh with 100kwh battery should gives total of 500 mi range. my friend shows me his model 3p on app is 5.1mi/kwh but there is no way he can drive over 300mi from 100% to 0%. he said his battery size is somewhat 75kwh
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exactly, that is why I think the real world efficiency for Tesla is not that impressive. they might be the no 1 but that is with small wheel and reduced weight.
just compare model x vs EQS SUV, the efficiency between two cars is not that much of different.
just compare model x vs EQS SUV, the efficiency between two cars is not that much of different.
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