G63BklynNYC

Question: I received an allocation for 2024 G63amg to arrive in march 2024. The dealership added a 30K markup. Is this the going markup or is this too much given the changes in demand/economy

Hodog16

$30k is rather aggressive in current market nationwide, but assuming you are in NYC it may be the going rate locally.

tonygwagon

Yeah it highly depends on the market you’re in. The MY24 G63 that I ordered was at MSRP.

mercedesmax

$30k is in line with prices on both coasts. People like to talk about the economy but it hasn't affected the ultra wealthy that typically buy G wagens. Demand remains very high. Every week we get people calling or coming in looking for new.

streborx

Not to stray too far off topic, but how are the EVs moving?

Hodog16

Brokers are offering EVs for 15 percent off sticker PLUS $10,000 (EQE) and $12,000 (EQS) in incentives so not well on 2023s.

I suspect MB will throttle supply in 2024.

GforMe

I spoke with Brooklyn Mercedes and was quoted a similar MSRP. I had a poor experience working with them so I called every dealer in a 60 mile radius and eventually found multiple dealers who offered half that.

Set an hour aside on your calendar, make a list and call away.

luoskywalker

Don't give in to these Greedy Dealers, if enough of us don't agree to pay their ridiculous ADM they will have to sell them at FULL MSRP or even lower, just walk away they are not doing you a favor, he who has the gold makes the rules, a regular G63 its just a regular G63.

mercedesmax

We're doing ok with them. Big discounts of course.

sampelligrino

Wishful thinking! I've heard of dealers *asking* 50 over still in my market where you can throw a rock out your window and hit a g63

If you have to have your own spec and allocation likely ADM, but I would negotiate a lot for a prebuilt or incoming car

CincyMBGuy

This.

The high-dollar buyers do not seem to be affected by the market changes. We're $25k over and have sold every allocation without an issue. Heck, we dealer traded for a GLS 450 last week that came in from a fly-over state with a $10k market adjustment still in the window.

streborx

Too many G Wagons are still be snapped up by the rich and sometimes famous who don't know or care about the amount their accountants write on the check. G63s were selling 2 years ago at MSRP + $150K. There will always be people with more money than sensibility, and luxe markets will always accommodate them.

ddatin

I stepped away from the new car market for a while because of the craziness but just checked Autotrader and there appears to be 50 new unsold 2023 G Wagons available on dealer lots.

Since the 2024 models are arriving at dealerships it seems that there will be a rude awakening at dealerships in the not too distant future.

Bought a vacation home from a distressed owner in a Arizona town much wealthier than Scottsdale during the last recession so many of the ultra rich do get hurt during the downturns.

Maybe I'll be coming in during the upcoming recession to order a G Wagon for the garage of that home.

Imsayingthough

In my search any NYC / LI/ NJ dealer close to the city seems to still be on that 30K+ like a previous poster stated if you go further out you will find some in the 15/20K range nothing in the tristate seems to be at sticker at least not for a new customer. I can only imagine the '25 Gs will spike the market ADM in our area even higher once again.

sampelligrino

'25 with the EQG and facelift will command a LOT higher ADM... part of the reason the ADM is "low" now IMO is for this reason: final model year of the "current" gen before W465 arrives

Personally I was happy to take advantage of that to get my own spec wanting one when the ADMs were 100-150k a couple years ago

Imsayingthough

I completely agree, ive been wanting since the ADMs were that high and even when they came down to the ~50K mark in my market i was still unwilling. Not that im saying a 25-35K markup is a "deal" but its the reality of certain markets. I fully expect the new model adm to shoot back up in this area to nauseating levels.

beau315

I'm in the market for a new 2023 G63 -- can you let me know what area of the country you saw these in? I only find 4x4 Squared that are brand new on dealer lots -- any used G63's from 2023 are still in the $225-$240k range unfortunately. Would like to pick one up before the end of the year.

ddatin

Nationwide - Two of them have since sold so it's down to 48 G Wagons.

If you go to Autotrader.com and input the following parameters you will see all new 2023 G Wagons for sale, at least on Autotrader.
There are probably more on dealer lots that aren't paying to advertise on Autotrader.

1. Make = Mercedes
2. Model = G Class
3. Radius = Nationwide
4. Model Year = 2023 to 2023
5. Condition = New

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...eASC&zip=11962

Imsayingthough

This is almost entirely made up of 63 4x4s or G550s not new G63s on lots...

ddatin

Change the model year 2024 and there are more starting to pile up.

These are only the ones that are advertised on Autotrader.

It's only a matter of time.

The economic cycle still exists.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...us=0&zip=11962

Hodog16

Sold/pre-ordered cars that show up at dealers will show up on autotrader inventory. Unless you see actual pictures of the vehicle it's not likely for sale (I doubt dealer will waste time taking and uploading photos for sold cars).

If you want a real litmus test for the market, go to a Mercedes dealer and ask what their list is for a G63. Almost certain to be over 1-2 years' wait.

streborx

I think dealers advertise even a sold vehicle in case the buyer refuses to pay the higher ADM that the dealer decides to slap on when the vehicle arrives.

sampelligrino

Bingo, IMO it's all a game anyways. Best bet is to call around with cash in hand and be as serious as a heart attack wire ready, and then you have the negotiating power to shop around and find the lowest cost whether MSRP or ADM..

mercedesmax

MBUSA controls the dealer websites. Sold cars show there all the time. Best bet is to call and see if the car is available.

streborx

I've noticed some dealers list a dealers price (obviously MSRP + ADM), while others list MSRP (to which some ADM will be added). Does the dealer decide which way the price gets listed?