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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 12:26 PM
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15 GL 550, From Perfect to many Camshaft and Coil Codes in 1 Cold Start

OK. So I have been a BMW Owner and home Mechanic now 15 years. Absolutely Love them, sorry, but they just didn't have something that fit the Family of 6 as the boys grew and no longer fit in the 3rd row of the tiny X5. Recent Purchase is my 15 GL550 88,000 miles. Love the Style, Love the Size, a pig though compared to the X5 5.0. Smaller with more power. anyways.....

Minor Misfire after purchase. So went ahead and did all 8 plugs and Beru Coils. FCP Euro. (Been reading here there have been issues with them). Running like a top past few months following that. Fast Forward to yesterday. Was Painting in garage so GL was outside and it was really our first cold spell. around 30. Not crazy cold. Started up instantly, high idle like normal for 2 sec, then wham. extreme rough. Got it in garage, shaking hard in gear. Shut down. Ran Codes, listed below. Quick google, and my history with BMW, Low Battery (Cold and Unknown age). Meter said it was at 12v under hood. Charged over night. 13.1v Started this morning, same issues. As it warms it gets better. idles 650 rpm, slight roughness. Put in Gear, Shakes Horribly . as you rev through 1000 it shakes again. by 1500 seems to be fine. Can rev up with what seems power. Haven't driven because when in gear to idle out it shakes to the point the headlights rattle.
Only other thing that has changed in the last week other than cold temp was my oil change. But it has around 75 miles since the change. Mobil 1 4w40. Just a premium knock off filter.
Codes
B2AAA- Body
P0348 - Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Bank 2
P0352 - Coil B (2)
P0353 - Coil C (3)
P0355 - Coil E (5)
P0358 - Coil H (8)
P0393 - Camshaft Position Sensor "B" Bank 2
P13B3 - Haven't found a clear answer for this one.
P2092 - A Camshaft Position Actuator Control Bank 2 b
P2094 - B Camshaft Position Actuator Control Bank 2 c

I know that not all these are root cause. I'm sure some are due to the others. What is odd. All the Camshaft codes are on Bank 2 (Drivers Side) but the coil codes are 2 per side.
A few things checked.
1. Absolutely no oil contamination in harness at any of the Cam position or Other one on the face of the cam. Can't remember what they call them. The larger round ones. 2 wires.
2. Voltages and grounds on the Cam Position sensors are all good, But on the front one. (Only 2 Wires) the red on the Bank 1 are open. Bank 2, where issues, are reading to ground. Positive voltages are all the same. That's on the harness end of plug.

Considering New Battery to Start as this all happened directly to the cold. I did read in a thread to pull negative for a day to clear things. Doubt it, but its undone.

If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear.
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 05:48 PM
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No oil contamination inside or outside connectors? Did you pulled them out?
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 05:51 PM
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 06:45 PM
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Yes. Unplugged. Tested Voltage and everything. There is no oil Anywhere on this motor.






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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 06:50 PM
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Yep Read that before posting. Doesn't apply. Just coils and all of them. Nothing on al the others. Mine are 3 months old and have 1000 miles on them. and if them misfiring were the root cause of the cam sensor issues then Id have on both banks as I'm getting odd coil codes 2 on bank 1 and 2 on Bank 2. It's all very odd.
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 08:24 PM
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I wonder if it’s more mechanical, like cam plate or phaser adjuster out of time on that bank? But with many codes I wonder about oil in harness, get to the ECU and see if oil is present at the ECU and plugs. I know you checked the solenoids.

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Originally Posted by aero007
OK. So I have been a BMW Owner and home Mechanic now 15 years. Absolutely Love them, sorry, but they just didn't have something that fit the Family of 6 as the boys grew and no longer fit in the 3rd row of the tiny X5. Recent Purchase is my 15 GL550 88,000 miles. Love the Style, Love the Size, a pig though compared to the X5 5.0. Smaller with more power. anyways.....

Minor Misfire after purchase. So went ahead and did all 8 plugs and Beru Coils. FCP Euro. (Been reading here there have been issues with them). Running like a top past few months following that. Fast Forward to yesterday. Was Painting in garage so GL was outside and it was really our first cold spell. around 30. Not crazy cold. Started up instantly, high idle like normal for 2 sec, then wham. extreme rough. Got it in garage, shaking hard in gear. Shut down. Ran Codes, listed below. Quick google, and my history with BMW, Low Battery (Cold and Unknown age). Meter said it was at 12v under hood. Charged over night. 13.1v Started this morning, same issues. As it warms it gets better. idles 650 rpm, slight roughness. Put in Gear, Shakes Horribly . as you rev through 1000 it shakes again. by 1500 seems to be fine. Can rev up with what seems power. Haven't driven because when in gear to idle out it shakes to the point the headlights rattle.
Only other thing that has changed in the last week other than cold temp was my oil change. But it has around 75 miles since the change. Mobil 1 4w40. Just a premium knock off filter.
Codes
B2AAA- Body
P0348 - Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Bank 2
P0352 - Coil B (2)
P0353 - Coil C (3)
P0355 - Coil E (5)
P0358 - Coil H (8)
P0393 - Camshaft Position Sensor "B" Bank 2
P13B3 - Haven't found a clear answer for this one.
P2092 - A Camshaft Position Actuator Control Bank 2 b
P2094 - B Camshaft Position Actuator Control Bank 2 c

I know that not all these are root cause. I'm sure some are due to the others. What is odd. All the Camshaft codes are on Bank 2 (Drivers Side) but the coil codes are 2 per side.
A few things checked.
1. Absolutely no oil contamination in harness at any of the Cam position or Other one on the face of the cam. Can't remember what they call them. The larger round ones. 2 wires.
2. Voltages and grounds on the Cam Position sensors are all good, But on the front one. (Only 2 Wires) the red on the Bank 1 are open. Bank 2, where issues, are reading to ground. Positive voltages are all the same. That's on the harness end of plug.

Considering New Battery to Start as this all happened directly to the cold. I did read in a thread to pull negative for a day to clear things. Doubt it, but its undone.

If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear.
This sounds all too familiar. Time to pull out your borescope and look at your cylinders. This M278 was meticulously maintained, Mobil 0w-40 every 8,000’ish miles, Mann filters, 93 octane Exxon fuel most of the time and was driven normally. Wife’s car and her trip to work is very car friendly, 25 minute ride through the country with 1 traffic light & 2 stop signs at 60mph. I caught this at 96k miles and didn’t bother pulling but 1 plug, #5. My digging around started because of a misfire code plus reading on this forum about M278 issues. They are not aging well.







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Originally Posted by aero007
OK. So I have been a BMW Owner and home Mechanic now 15 years. Absolutely Love them, sorry, but they just didn't have something that fit the Family of 6 as the boys grew and no longer fit in the 3rd row of the tiny X5. Recent Purchase is my 15 GL550 88,000 miles. Love the Style, Love the Size, a pig though compared to the X5 5.0. Smaller with more power. anyways.....

Minor Misfire after purchase. So went ahead and did all 8 plugs and Beru Coils. FCP Euro. (Been reading here there have been issues with them). Running like a top past few months following that. Fast Forward to yesterday. Was Painting in garage so GL was outside and it was really our first cold spell. around 30. Not crazy cold. Started up instantly, high idle like normal for 2 sec, then wham. extreme rough. Got it in garage, shaking hard in gear. Shut down. Ran Codes, listed below. Quick google, and my history with BMW, Low Battery (Cold and Unknown age). Meter said it was at 12v under hood. Charged over night. 13.1v Started this morning, same issues. As it warms it gets better. idles 650 rpm, slight roughness. Put in Gear, Shakes Horribly . as you rev through 1000 it shakes again. by 1500 seems to be fine. Can rev up with what seems power. Haven't driven because when in gear to idle out it shakes to the point the headlights rattle.
Only other thing that has changed in the last week other than cold temp was my oil change. But it has around 75 miles since the change. Mobil 1 4w40. Just a premium knock off filter.
Codes
B2AAA- Body
P0348 - Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Bank 2
P0352 - Coil B (2)
P0353 - Coil C (3)
P0355 - Coil E (5)
P0358 - Coil H (8)
P0393 - Camshaft Position Sensor "B" Bank 2
P13B3 - Haven't found a clear answer for this one.
P2092 - A Camshaft Position Actuator Control Bank 2 b
P2094 - B Camshaft Position Actuator Control Bank 2 c

I know that not all these are root cause. I'm sure some are due to the others. What is odd. All the Camshaft codes are on Bank 2 (Drivers Side) but the coil codes are 2 per side.
A few things checked.
1. Absolutely no oil contamination in harness at any of the Cam position or Other one on the face of the cam. Can't remember what they call them. The larger round ones. 2 wires.
2. Voltages and grounds on the Cam Position sensors are all good, But on the front one. (Only 2 Wires) the red on the Bank 1 are open. Bank 2, where issues, are reading to ground. Positive voltages are all the same. That's on the harness end of plug.

Considering New Battery to Start as this all happened directly to the cold. I did read in a thread to pull negative for a day to clear things. Doubt it, but its undone.

If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear.
I’ve got the exact same symptoms and codes at 145k miles. Was a perfect engine before a few days ago. Did you find out what’s caused your issues with it?
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 06:42 PM
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I’ve got the exact same symptoms and codes at 145k miles. Was a perfect engine before a few days ago. Did you find out what’s caused your issues with it?
Turned out to be a blown fuse. F215 if I recall correctly. It protects the power supply to cyl 3,4,5,8 plus the two sensors.
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Old May 12, 2023 | 06:56 PM
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Did you ever happen to figure out what was causing all of the codes? My car is throwing the same codes as yours
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Old May 13, 2023 | 08:47 AM
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Did you ever happen to figure out what was causing all of the codes? My car is throwing the same codes as yours
Yep, sure did. Oil in the engine harness. From the Camshaft sensor and actuators all the way to the ECU. Ended up replacing said sensors and actuators, replacing the ECU and life is good again.
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