VR6's, Audi A4's against a Kompressor?? Please...
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
05 C230 Spt Komp. 99 911 Carrera
VR6's, Audi A4's against a Kompressor?? Please...
Whats the deal with VR6's and Audi A4s always wanting a little action at a light? I feel like a fly magnet or something like these cars are attracted to me. I need a note pad so I can just keep checkin them off every time. 
Super Member
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 551
Likes: 2
From: Virginia
2005 Carlsson CD32 E320 CDI Inline-6
They see you as lower on the food chain
The want to beat you at stoplight derby; it props up their self esteem.
Lots of fun could be had by adhering C230 to the decklid of a C55 with a supercharger.
Lots of fun could be had by adhering C230 to the decklid of a C55 with a supercharger.
Last edited by cdiken; Dec 31, 2005 at 04:09 PM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,905
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta
03 C32 AMG
VR6 and 1.8T variants are very tunable and not too shabby when stock, should hang with or beat a 230. Most 1.8Ts will blow a 230K to the moon when tuned with only a chip. (i used to own an audi 2.8, and wished i had bought the 1.8T because modifying the thing is almost as easy as tuning a japanese car)
Last edited by King320; Jan 2, 2006 at 10:50 PM.
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
05 C230 Spt Komp. 99 911 Carrera
Most modern cars nowadays all have a decent acceleration through 1st and some of 2nd gear, but usually not the top end. The 1.8t's and the VR6's dont have the top end that the C230k does, they need to drop a couple of gears to keep up with the benz, and by then, I'm already gone...in comfort and style...
Trending Topics
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,905
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta
03 C32 AMG
Originally Posted by Midnight Bullet
Most modern cars nowadays all have a decent acceleration through 1st and some of 2nd gear, but usually not the top end. The 1.8t's and the VR6's dont have the top end that the C230k does, they need to drop a couple of gears to keep up with the benz, and by then, I'm already gone...in comfort and style...
1) Who are you!?
2) What do you mean by "top end"
3) Have you actually ever driven a C230?
C230s have virtually ZERO acceleration above 100 mph because the 4-cyl engine runs out of steam. There was a race video on here between a c240 (slowest car MB makes) and a C230 (second slowest car MB makes) and the 240 put BUS LENTHS on the 230 at higher speeds because the 230 was accelerating at approximately 1mph/lunar cycle. But VR6s and A4s surely dont have the massive top end that the 230K does.
Im quite surprised that you find your 230 such a high speed beast, especially since you own a 911. If thats the case you would have experienced your 911's power at top end and think that your 230 was an absolute snail at anything close to 100. I've said it once before, but i guess it didnt stick. The best shot a C230 has at winning a high speed race is against this beast of a machine....
And what ever you do, watch out for this one, the aerodynamics on it will blow you away...
Also keep in mind that A4s come in all shapes and sizes, 1.8ts, 2.0ts, 2.8s, 3.0s, 3.2s. The first two are easily modified to run 12s or 11s and the latter 3 have enough stock to keep a 230 easily at bay. You c230 guys need to get over your "Kompressor" arrogance and realize that just because your car shares a badge with an E55 does not mean that you can carry the same superior attitude as those who own "Kompressors" attached to engines that actually have some ***** on their own account. The A4 and VR6 WILL get the better of you at top speeds, and god help you if they're modified.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,744
Likes: 1
From: New York City
95 Audi urS6 Quattro
Originally Posted by King320
HAHA, gone...in comfort and style... Couple of questions
1) Who are you!?
2) What do you mean by "top end"
3) Have you actually ever driven a C230?
C230s have virtually ZERO acceleration above 100 mph because the 4-cyl engine runs out of steam. There was a race video on here between a c240 (slowest car MB makes) and a C230 (second slowest car MB makes) and the 240 put BUS LENTHS on the 230 at higher speeds because the 230 was accelerating at approximately 1mph/lunar cycle. But VR6s and A4s surely dont have the massive top end that the 230K does.
Im quite surprised that you find your 230 such a high speed beast, especially since you own a 911. If thats the case you would have experienced your 911's power at top end and think that your 230 was an absolute snail at anything close to 100. I've said it once before, but i guess it didnt stick. The best shot a C230 has at winning a high speed race is against this beast of a machine....
And what ever you do, watch out for this one, the aerodynamics on it will blow you away...
Also keep in mind that A4s come in all shapes and sizes, 1.8ts, 2.0ts, 2.8s, 3.0s, 3.2s. The first two are easily modified to run 12s or 11s and the latter 3 have enough stock to keep a 230 easily at bay. You c230 guys need to get over your "Kompressor" arrogance and realize that just because your car shares a badge with an E55 does not mean that you can carry the same superior attitude as those who own "Kompressors" attached to engines that actually have some ***** on their own account. The A4 and VR6 WILL get the better of you at top speeds, and god help you if they're modified.
1) Who are you!?
2) What do you mean by "top end"
3) Have you actually ever driven a C230?
C230s have virtually ZERO acceleration above 100 mph because the 4-cyl engine runs out of steam. There was a race video on here between a c240 (slowest car MB makes) and a C230 (second slowest car MB makes) and the 240 put BUS LENTHS on the 230 at higher speeds because the 230 was accelerating at approximately 1mph/lunar cycle. But VR6s and A4s surely dont have the massive top end that the 230K does.
Im quite surprised that you find your 230 such a high speed beast, especially since you own a 911. If thats the case you would have experienced your 911's power at top end and think that your 230 was an absolute snail at anything close to 100. I've said it once before, but i guess it didnt stick. The best shot a C230 has at winning a high speed race is against this beast of a machine....
And what ever you do, watch out for this one, the aerodynamics on it will blow you away...
Also keep in mind that A4s come in all shapes and sizes, 1.8ts, 2.0ts, 2.8s, 3.0s, 3.2s. The first two are easily modified to run 12s or 11s and the latter 3 have enough stock to keep a 230 easily at bay. You c230 guys need to get over your "Kompressor" arrogance and realize that just because your car shares a badge with an E55 does not mean that you can carry the same superior attitude as those who own "Kompressors" attached to engines that actually have some ***** on their own account. The A4 and VR6 WILL get the better of you at top speeds, and god help you if they're modified.
too true
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,761
Likes: 4
From: North Carolina
98 Black C43 , 12’ ML 350 Blutec
Originally Posted by King320
HAHA, gone...in comfort and style... Couple of questions
1) Who are you!?
2) What do you mean by "top end"
3) Have you actually ever driven a C230?
C230s have virtually ZERO acceleration above 100 mph because the 4-cyl engine runs out of steam. .
1) Who are you!?
2) What do you mean by "top end"
3) Have you actually ever driven a C230?
C230s have virtually ZERO acceleration above 100 mph because the 4-cyl engine runs out of steam. .
Banned
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,706
Likes: 1
From: NJ
Bantha
Originally Posted by Midnight Bullet
Most modern cars nowadays all have a decent acceleration through 1st and some of 2nd gear, but usually not the top end. The 1.8t's and the VR6's dont have the top end that the C230k does, they need to drop a couple of gears to keep up with the benz, and by then, I'm already gone...in comfort and style...
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,761
Likes: 4
From: North Carolina
98 Black C43 , 12’ ML 350 Blutec
Originally Posted by tuscanraider
Our 230's have no top end....they're dogs from the get go. They weren't designed to be quick.
Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Cars
what is wrong with what this guy is saying? I've beaten a chipped A4 1.8T w/exhaust and 330's/rsx-s among other things when my car was stock and I think its accepted that the 230's do a little more than the published numbers give them credit for, and for someone with a 320 to be bashing the 230 is almost laughable, you dont have an amg or anything to even set your car apart from anyone elses aesthetically, if your argument is that your engine is bigger so you are better, even though with all that much size advantage your getting out the same hp or less if the 230 has a simple pulley upgrade. I raced a supercharged E36 M3 from a roll and that guy was telling me that my car is fast even though he beat me. Not many of the posters here can show dyno slips to match that guys car and bash the 230 when he gave it credit. and guess what....
link
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=340977
link
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=340977
Super Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 701
Likes: 0
From: north carolina
1998 honda civic lx
tedypedy, I don't know where you are getting that King320 is saying anything in relation to his car...he wasn't saying he is superior to Midnight Bullet...he was just saying the 230 doesn't have an impressive top end...especially compared to a 911....Maybe I'm misreading but I didn't get the arrogance you are getting. I never once saw where he said anything resembling "my car has a bigger engine so it's better than yours" tedypedy...I think you're making stuff up....
also, don't you think it's a little weird that Midnight Bullet thinks his 230 is impressive when he's got a 911? IF he really has a 911.
also, don't you think it's a little weird that Midnight Bullet thinks his 230 is impressive when he's got a 911? IF he really has a 911.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,905
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta
03 C32 AMG
Originally Posted by tedypedy
what is wrong with what this guy is saying? I've beaten a chipped A4 1.8T w/exhaust and 330's/rsx-s among other things when my car was stock and I think its accepted that the 230's do a little more than the published numbers give them credit for, and for someone with a 320 to be bashing the 230 is almost laughable, you dont have an amg or anything to even set your car apart from anyone elses aesthetically, if your argument is that your engine is bigger so you are better, even though with all that much size advantage your getting out the same hp or less if the 230 has a simple pulley upgrade. I raced a supercharged E36 M3 from a roll and that guy was telling me that my car is fast even though he beat me. Not many of the posters here can show dyno slips to match that guys car and bash the 230 when he gave it credit. and guess what....
link
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=340977
link
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=340977
^TOOL^ Get over yourself man. Any fourbanger "KOMPRESSOR" owner who thinks that recieving a consolation comment from a guy who just wiped his A$$ with that pathetic engine pulley you hang your ego upon deserves a severe beating.
Your link has no dynograph, but here are some numbers to fill your delusional head with...
Stock 2000 C230
189 HP
192 pound feet
0-60: 7.2 (manual) 7.5 (auto) these are GENEROUS numbers, the sport sedans are wose, approaching the 8 second range
Stock 1998 CLK320
215 HP
229 pund feet
0-60: 6.8 or 6.9 seconds
Im not one to brag on my car, because after all, its a 320, its not that fast compared to AMGs. But what do the numbers above tell you about where that puts your P.O.S.? If you really want me to spell it out...
320hp>230hp
320tq>230tq
320 0-60<230 0-60
Yes i believe that a CLK 320 is a better car *BY FAR* than a C230 sportCOUPE, the sedan i can respect, but the coupe...no way. The CLK is the reason that no one bought the C coupe and it is no longer sold in the US!!!
You need to seriously get either a smaller ego or a better car, because right now they just arent matching up. Im sure the SC pullet has done something for your car at low speeds but the bottom line is that you're going to run out of power at the top end, the engine is just not built for it.
After reviewing the numbers, i agree that you could take a stock 1.8T but FYI, a chipped 1.8T A4 is a whole different animal than chipping an MB, there are two different versions
150HP goes to 197HP
170HP goes to 210HP
Man, i wish you didnt live all the way out in "killa kali" so we could race and settle this. But knowing you, you'd just find some lame excuse and get someone to compliment your car so you could salvage your dream world from utter ruin.
I imagine i dont have to worry too much about you returning a post, since you only seem to grace us with your presence .05 times a day. TP, you have been a member here for 3 years and have not even reached 100 posts. Anyone who wants to see this guys history of posting, check out these threads...
One where he "Killed" an M3, but backed off on the claim when pressured, priceless...
https://mbworld.org/forums/kill-stories/77361-m3vssvtcobravsc230.html
One where he tried to sell this pulley he's so balsy about...
https://mbworld.org/forums/slk-class-r170/81669-asp-pulley-sale.html
One where to took an SL500 from a roll until 4th gear, also the SL could "never catch up when he floored it", and guess what...yep another "he said my car was fast"
https://mbworld.org/forums/kill-stories/30943-c230k-vs-sl500.html
Teddy, dont keep the 230 sportcoupe inferiority complex so alive and well. There really isnt anything wrong with those cars, i just dont like them personally, but hey, they arent that bad. Its your attitude that makes you such an easy target. I really dont want to keep demolishing you like this, but its just TOO EASY!
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,905
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta
03 C32 AMG
Originally Posted by C43AMG
That CLK320 he's driving isn't going to strike fear into many peoples hearts either.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,743
Likes: 0
From: Fountain Valley, California
Whatever keys I grab first...
2.0T A4 will hand a C230 its own a$$.
VR6 should too-- 230s barely haven enough power to merge safely, much less haul a$$ in triple digits... or double for that matter.
VR6 should too-- 230s barely haven enough power to merge safely, much less haul a$$ in triple digits... or double for that matter.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,276
Likes: 0
From: mymbonline
mymbonline
Originally Posted by Midnight Bullet
Most modern cars nowadays all have a decent acceleration through 1st and some of 2nd gear, but usually not the top end. The 1.8t's and the VR6's dont have the top end that the C230k does, they need to drop a couple of gears to keep up with the benz, and by then, I'm already gone...in comfort and style...
im assuming u r talking about rpm and not mph cause the 230 doesnt have any of both, after 70-80 its done,nice midrage though (rpm)
Last edited by AMG_55; Jan 4, 2006 at 07:09 AM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,276
Likes: 0
From: mymbonline
mymbonline
Originally Posted by King320
TEDDY!!!! I've missed seeing your persion mafioso mug around here! Until now all ive had to remind me of your hilarious antics is this thug life shot of you in Killa Kali!
^TOOL^
Get over yourself man. Any fourbanger "KOMPRESSOR" owner who thinks that recieving a consolation comment from a guy who just wiped his A$$ with that pathetic engine pulley you hang your ego upon deserves a severe beating.
Your link has no dynograph, but here are some numbers to fill your delusional head with...
Stock 2000 C230
189 HP
192 pound feet
0-60: 7.2 (manual) 7.5 (auto) these are GENEROUS numbers, the sport sedans are wose, approaching the 8 second range
Stock 1998 CLK320
215 HP
229 pund feet
0-60: 6.8 or 6.9 seconds
Im not one to brag on my car, because after all, its a 320, its not that fast compared to AMGs. But what do the numbers above tell you about where that puts your P.O.S.? If you really want me to spell it out...
320hp>230hp
320tq>230tq
320 0-60<230 0-60
Yes i believe that a CLK 320 is a better car *BY FAR* than a C230 sportCOUPE, the sedan i can respect, but the coupe...no way. The CLK is the reason that no one bought the C coupe and it is no longer sold in the US!!!
You need to seriously get either a smaller ego or a better car, because right now they just arent matching up. Im sure the SC pullet has done something for your car at low speeds but the bottom line is that you're going to run out of power at the top end, the engine is just not built for it.
After reviewing the numbers, i agree that you could take a stock 1.8T but FYI, a chipped 1.8T A4 is a whole different animal than chipping an MB, there are two different versions
150HP goes to 197HP
170HP goes to 210HP
Man, i wish you didnt live all the way out in "killa kali" so we could race and settle this. But knowing you, you'd just find some lame excuse and get someone to compliment your car so you could salvage your dream world from utter ruin.
I imagine i dont have to worry too much about you returning a post, since you only seem to grace us with your presence .05 times a day. TP, you have been a member here for 3 years and have not even reached 100 posts. Anyone who wants to see this guys history of posting, check out these threads...
One where he "Killed" an M3, but backed off on the claim when pressured, priceless...
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77361
One where he tried to sell this pulley he's so balsy about...
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=81669
One where to took an SL500 from a roll until 4th gear, also the SL could "never catch up when he floored it", and guess what...yep another "he said my car was fast"
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30943
Teddy, dont keep the 230 sportcoupe inferiority complex so alive and well. There really isnt anything wrong with those cars, i just dont like them personally, but hey, they arent that bad. Its your attitude that makes you such an easy target. I really dont want to keep demolishing you like this, but its just TOO EASY!
^TOOL^ Get over yourself man. Any fourbanger "KOMPRESSOR" owner who thinks that recieving a consolation comment from a guy who just wiped his A$$ with that pathetic engine pulley you hang your ego upon deserves a severe beating.
Your link has no dynograph, but here are some numbers to fill your delusional head with...
Stock 2000 C230
189 HP
192 pound feet
0-60: 7.2 (manual) 7.5 (auto) these are GENEROUS numbers, the sport sedans are wose, approaching the 8 second range
Stock 1998 CLK320
215 HP
229 pund feet
0-60: 6.8 or 6.9 seconds
Im not one to brag on my car, because after all, its a 320, its not that fast compared to AMGs. But what do the numbers above tell you about where that puts your P.O.S.? If you really want me to spell it out...
320hp>230hp
320tq>230tq
320 0-60<230 0-60
Yes i believe that a CLK 320 is a better car *BY FAR* than a C230 sportCOUPE, the sedan i can respect, but the coupe...no way. The CLK is the reason that no one bought the C coupe and it is no longer sold in the US!!!
You need to seriously get either a smaller ego or a better car, because right now they just arent matching up. Im sure the SC pullet has done something for your car at low speeds but the bottom line is that you're going to run out of power at the top end, the engine is just not built for it.
After reviewing the numbers, i agree that you could take a stock 1.8T but FYI, a chipped 1.8T A4 is a whole different animal than chipping an MB, there are two different versions
150HP goes to 197HP
170HP goes to 210HP
Man, i wish you didnt live all the way out in "killa kali" so we could race and settle this. But knowing you, you'd just find some lame excuse and get someone to compliment your car so you could salvage your dream world from utter ruin.
I imagine i dont have to worry too much about you returning a post, since you only seem to grace us with your presence .05 times a day. TP, you have been a member here for 3 years and have not even reached 100 posts. Anyone who wants to see this guys history of posting, check out these threads...
One where he "Killed" an M3, but backed off on the claim when pressured, priceless...
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77361
One where he tried to sell this pulley he's so balsy about...
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=81669
One where to took an SL500 from a roll until 4th gear, also the SL could "never catch up when he floored it", and guess what...yep another "he said my car was fast"
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30943
Teddy, dont keep the 230 sportcoupe inferiority complex so alive and well. There really isnt anything wrong with those cars, i just dont like them personally, but hey, they arent that bad. Its your attitude that makes you such an easy target. I really dont want to keep demolishing you like this, but its just TOO EASY!
TP,
damn fool u got punked
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
05 C230 Spt Komp. 99 911 Carrera
I did'nt join this thing to start ****, Im just sayin I had the C230 out and had no problem takin an A4 and a VR6. Keep in mind I also drive a Carrera. If I wanted to talk **** I could, I have some leverage, so get off me. This is my first Benz and I was just saying that I was impressed with its abilities on the highway. And as for the "comfort and style", VW is'nt known for their high quality leather, nor do they stand out as much as a tri-star emblem...thanks anyway though.
