Midnight Bullet

Whats the deal with VR6's and Audi A4s always wanting a little action at a light? I feel like a fly magnet or something like these cars are attracted to me. I need a note pad so I can just keep checkin them off every time.

Militant-Grunt

Uhh description of what actually happened?

Stiggs

yeah....how bad did you get beat in your C230 coupe?

cdiken

The want to beat you at stoplight derby; it props up their self esteem.

Lots of fun could be had by adhering C230 to the decklid of a C55 with a supercharger.

King320

VR6 and 1.8T variants are very tunable and not too shabby when stock, should hang with or beat a 230. Most 1.8Ts will blow a 230K to the moon when tuned with only a chip. (i used to own an audi 2.8, and wished i had bought the 1.8T because modifying the thing is almost as easy as tuning a japanese car)

mick1

i think those guys are acting tough because they believe they can out-accelerate a C230

Midnight Bullet

Most modern cars nowadays all have a decent acceleration through 1st and some of 2nd gear, but usually not the top end. The 1.8t's and the VR6's dont have the top end that the C230k does, they need to drop a couple of gears to keep up with the benz, and by then, I'm already gone...in comfort and style...

King320

HAHA, gone...in comfort and style... Couple of questions
1) Who are you!?
2) What do you mean by "top end"
3) Have you actually ever driven a C230?

C230s have virtually ZERO acceleration above 100 mph because the 4-cyl engine runs out of steam. There was a race video on here between a c240 (slowest car MB makes) and a C230 (second slowest car MB makes) and the 240 put BUS LENTHS on the 230 at higher speeds because the 230 was accelerating at approximately 1mph/lunar cycle. But VR6s and A4s surely dont have the massive top end that the 230K does.

Im quite surprised that you find your 230 such a high speed beast, especially since you own a 911. If thats the case you would have experienced your 911's power at top end and think that your 230 was an absolute snail at anything close to 100. I've said it once before, but i guess it didnt stick. The best shot a C230 has at winning a high speed race is against this beast of a machine....


And what ever you do, watch out for this one, the aerodynamics on it will blow you away...


Also keep in mind that A4s come in all shapes and sizes, 1.8ts, 2.0ts, 2.8s, 3.0s, 3.2s. The first two are easily modified to run 12s or 11s and the latter 3 have enough stock to keep a 230 easily at bay. You c230 guys need to get over your "Kompressor" arrogance and realize that just because your car shares a badge with an E55 does not mean that you can carry the same superior attitude as those who own "Kompressors" attached to engines that actually have some ***** on their own account. The A4 and VR6 WILL get the better of you at top speeds, and god help you if they're modified.

Militant-Grunt

too true

milllx

yeh, there's some serious ownage going on here...

C43AMG

Aren't most races just about over by 100mph?

Air Marshall Eldritch

He meant 100 KPH

tuscanraider

Our 230's have no top end....they're dogs from the get go. They weren't designed to be quick.

C43AMG

That CLK320 he's driving isn't going to strike fear into many peoples hearts either.

Nij

Haha, you guys are hating hardcore, let the guy like his car and believe what he wants

newton22

Man, you guys haven't seen a C230 with NOS. They usually run 600-800 front wheel horsepower!

tedypedy

what is wrong with what this guy is saying? I've beaten a chipped A4 1.8T w/exhaust and 330's/rsx-s among other things when my car was stock and I think its accepted that the 230's do a little more than the published numbers give them credit for, and for someone with a 320 to be bashing the 230 is almost laughable, you dont have an amg or anything to even set your car apart from anyone elses aesthetically, if your argument is that your engine is bigger so you are better, even though with all that much size advantage your getting out the same hp or less if the 230 has a simple pulley upgrade. I raced a supercharged E36 M3 from a roll and that guy was telling me that my car is fast even though he beat me. Not many of the posters here can show dyno slips to match that guys car and bash the 230 when he gave it credit. and guess what....

link
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=340977

milllx

tedypedy, I don't know where you are getting that King320 is saying anything in relation to his car...he wasn't saying he is superior to Midnight Bullet...he was just saying the 230 doesn't have an impressive top end...especially compared to a 911....Maybe I'm misreading but I didn't get the arrogance you are getting. I never once saw where he said anything resembling "my car has a bigger engine so it's better than yours" tedypedy...I think you're making stuff up....

also, don't you think it's a little weird that Midnight Bullet thinks his 230 is impressive when he's got a 911? IF he really has a 911.

King320

TEDDY!!!! I've missed seeing your persion mafioso mug around here! Until now all ive had to remind me of your hilarious antics is this thug life shot of you in Killa Kali!

^TOOL^
Get over yourself man. Any fourbanger "KOMPRESSOR" owner who thinks that recieving a consolation comment from a guy who just wiped his A$$ with that pathetic engine pulley you hang your ego upon deserves a severe beating.
Your link has no dynograph, but here are some numbers to fill your delusional head with...

Stock 2000 C230
189 HP
192 pound feet
0-60: 7.2 (manual) 7.5 (auto) these are GENEROUS numbers, the sport sedans are wose, approaching the 8 second range

Stock 1998 CLK320
215 HP
229 pund feet
0-60: 6.8 or 6.9 seconds

Im not one to brag on my car, because after all, its a 320, its not that fast compared to AMGs. But what do the numbers above tell you about where that puts your P.O.S.? If you really want me to spell it out...
320hp>230hp
320tq>230tq
320 0-60<230 0-60
Yes i believe that a CLK 320 is a better car *BY FAR* than a C230 sportCOUPE, the sedan i can respect, but the coupe...no way. The CLK is the reason that no one bought the C coupe and it is no longer sold in the US!!!

You need to seriously get either a smaller ego or a better car, because right now they just arent matching up. Im sure the SC pullet has done something for your car at low speeds but the bottom line is that you're going to run out of power at the top end, the engine is just not built for it.

After reviewing the numbers, i agree that you could take a stock 1.8T but FYI, a chipped 1.8T A4 is a whole different animal than chipping an MB, there are two different versions
150HP goes to 197HP
170HP goes to 210HP
Man, i wish you didnt live all the way out in "killa kali" so we could race and settle this. But knowing you, you'd just find some lame excuse and get someone to compliment your car so you could salvage your dream world from utter ruin.
I imagine i dont have to worry too much about you returning a post, since you only seem to grace us with your presence .05 times a day. TP, you have been a member here for 3 years and have not even reached 100 posts. Anyone who wants to see this guys history of posting, check out these threads...
One where he "Killed" an M3, but backed off on the claim when pressured, priceless...
https://mbworld.org/forums/kill-stories/77361-m3vssvtcobravsc230.html
One where he tried to sell this pulley he's so balsy about...
https://mbworld.org/forums/slk-class-r170/81669-asp-pulley-sale.html
One where to took an SL500 from a roll until 4th gear, also the SL could "never catch up when he floored it", and guess what...yep another "he said my car was fast"
https://mbworld.org/forums/kill-stories/30943-c230k-vs-sl500.html

Teddy, dont keep the 230 sportcoupe inferiority complex so alive and well. There really isnt anything wrong with those cars, i just dont like them personally, but hey, they arent that bad. Its your attitude that makes you such an easy target. I really dont want to keep demolishing you like this, but its just TOO EASY!

King320

VERY true, but that doesnt really bother me. Its not the last car i'll own, and its not like the car's supposed to intimidate anyone. I've actually decided to not modify the clk majorly, but just do some nice minor/moderate stuff to it and save up for something like a CLK55, M3, or C32 (so i can get walked by TP)

Lexani

2.0T A4 will hand a C230 its own a$$.

VR6 should too-- 230s barely haven enough power to merge safely, much less haul a$$ in triple digits... or double for that matter.

AMG_55

if they drop gears doesnt that get them into the top end??
im assuming u r talking about rpm and not mph cause the 230 doesnt have any of both, after 70-80 its done,nice midrage though (rpm)

AMG_55

TP,
damn fool u got punked

milllx

yep, BADLY!~

Midnight Bullet

I did'nt join this thing to start ****, Im just sayin I had the C230 out and had no problem takin an A4 and a VR6. Keep in mind I also drive a Carrera. If I wanted to talk **** I could, I have some leverage, so get off me. This is my first Benz and I was just saying that I was impressed with its abilities on the highway. And as for the "comfort and style", VW is'nt known for their high quality leather, nor do they stand out as much as a tri-star emblem...thanks anyway though.