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Old 09-16-2009, 06:10 PM
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A tale of two fools

going to work in the morning yesterday.. saw a Mustang GT going in and out of traffic passing cars and all of the sudden cut in front of me. .. I known regular mustangs with V-6 are not that fast.. but I dont know how much this Mustang GT got.. so he was the first car at the traffic light in front of me....

as soon as light turn green.. he punches the gas.. making big loud noises from dual exhaust blowing down the straight. a few micro sec later I punch mine too.. its a fairly long straight on Broadway Blvd.. we both get up to speed about 80-90 mph.. he was not pulling away from me.. and i was closing up on him.. I thought Mustang GT is faster but I guess i was wrong. and then there was this bend coming up.. we both doing about 90-100mph.. he had to slow down.. because of the bend.. i just took that bend like michael schmacher.. bye bye I said to myself.. while i pass him.. and then here comes to a traffic light.. we both had to stop violently.. I engaged with ABS and stopped with no drama.. he stompped his brake.. with loud screeching coming from that oversize brake and tires..so he wants to race again. given me a thumbs up.. I then tell myself.. nay.. this is good enough for me.. I am a happy man with C350..

later I found out that GT is no ordinary mustang.. Its got a V-8 with 320+ hp.. I guess it all boils down to drivers and german engineering.. I am happy with C class.. I am sure you guys too...
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08 or 09 mustang GT is faster than a C350. you either raced a V6 badged as a GT (i see them everywhere) with dual exhaust or he wasnt racing.
Old 09-16-2009, 06:44 PM
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08 or 09 mustang GT is faster than a C350. you either raced a V6 badged as a GT (i see them everywhere) with dual exhaust or he wasnt racing.
I doubt its a V-6.. I know for sure its a GT mustang..

and I am pretty sure he is raing.. or else he wouldn't go 90+ at 35mph zone..
Old 09-16-2009, 06:54 PM
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Like i said, i was surprised that i can keep up with him and I was drafting behind his car.. fluid dynamic baby..
Old 09-16-2009, 07:11 PM
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08 Mustang GT: quarter mile time of 13.8 seconds at 103 mph.
09 C350: quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 96.5.

The difference isn't extreme, so i can see how op's story is legible. Maybe op got the better gearing for the speed when they both went wot so he could keep up?
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Originally Posted by thepinoc
08 Mustang GT: quarter mile time of 13.8 seconds at 103 mph.
09 C350: quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 96.5.

The difference isn't extreme, so i can see how op's story is legible. Maybe op got the better gearing for the speed when they both went wot so he could keep up?
6.5 mph is actually quite significant. just to give you an idea of what that difference is, a stock C32 traps 105 and a stock SL55 traps like 111 or 112. there is NO way a stock C32 will ever pull back on a stock SL55. A car that has 6mph less trap speed will not pull back on the faster car unless he is on nitrous or something and decides to use it then lol.

in the OPs story, no way a V6 pulling back on a V8 when the V8 has more power and probably similar weight (not sure what the curb weight is). i'm not trying to hate. just tons of racing exp. both on and off the drag strip
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Question:

Do you think your C350 is as quick or quicker than my tuned E500? Keep in mind that my E500 is currently the quickest naturally aspirated one on record with a 13.49@102.5

Reason I ask is last time I ran my car at the track, I was up against an 08 Mustang GT. That particular run, I ran a 13.65, he ran a 13.47 and was pulling away from me.

No chance your C350 was reeling him in, or even keeping up at that speed if he was running full out.
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like i said before.... i pass him on the turn.. not on the straight.. i pull on him because he has to brake for the turn.. i pass him easily before he had a chance to catch me again.. no hate .. i understand.. if straight.. no chance.. but with turns.. all bets are off..
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Where to start? The Italians or the Germans?
Originally Posted by mikelin7
I doubt its a V-6.. I know for sure its a GT mustang..

and I am pretty sure he is raing.. or else he wouldn't go 90+ at 35mph zone..

I got nabbed by 7 police cars (sherif, local county, neighboring county, and college cop combined) for doing 140+ in a 35.... luckily my lawyer got my reckless (12 point ticket) driving charge knocked down to careless (4 point) with some strings attatched....
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Originally Posted by MB_Fahrer
I got nabbed by 7 police cars (sherif, local county, neighboring county, and college cop combined) for doing 140+ in a 35.... luckily my lawyer got my reckless (12 point ticket) driving charge knocked down to careless (4 point) with some strings attatched....

you are freaking lucky..
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Originally Posted by mikelin7
... its a fairly long straight on Broadway Blvd...we both get up to speed about 80-90 mph.. he was not pulling away from me.. and i was closing up on him..

and then there was this bend coming up.. we both doing about 90-100mph.. he had to slow down.. because of the bend.. i just took that bend like michael schmacher.. bye bye I said to myself.. while i pass him..
Originally Posted by mikelin7
like i said before.... i pass him on the turn.. not on the straight.. i pull on him because he has to brake for the turn.. i pass him easily before he had a chance to catch me again.. no hate .. i understand.. if straight.. no chance.. but with turns.. all bets are off..
Ok, but you said in your original post that you were closing in on him on a long straight. Sorry, there's no way that happened if he's running flat out.


Most likely what happened, is he was walking you, but slowed down in anticipation of the upcoming turn. That's when the drag race ended, not when you passed him.

Hardly a kill but enjoy your C-Class!
I like them when my dealer gives them to me as loaners.
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Originally Posted by mikelin7
you are freaking lucky..
On that note-if you are doing 90+in a 35-YOU are freaking retarded.
I'm glad no one got hurt. The speed limit in a city or residential area are there for reason-try reading and following one next time.
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Where to start? The Italians or the Germans?
Originally Posted by rockjock
On that note-if you are doing 90+in a 35-YOU are freaking retarded.
I'm glad no one got hurt. The speed limit in a city or residential area are there for reason-try reading and following one next time.

I hate speed limits... they, like laws, are only there to be broken...
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from that oversize brake and tires
Explain

..so he wants to race again. given me a thumbs up.. I then tell myself.. nay.. this is good enough for me.. I am a happy man with C350..
Cuz you would lose.

later I found out that GT is no ordinary mustang.. ..
It is as ordinary, common and vanilla as they get.


Originally Posted by mikelin7
and I am pretty sure he is raing.. or else he wouldn't go 90+ at 35mph zone..
Both of you need brain mods.

Originally Posted by rockjock
On that note-if you are doing 90+in a 35-YOU are freaking retarded.
I'm glad no one got hurt. The speed limit in a city or residential area are there for reason-try reading and following one next time.
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I hate speed limits... they, like laws, are only there to be broken...
Yeah, but this is a reckless driving law that equals jail time. How often do you commit crimes that mandate jail time? Thought so.
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Where to start? The Italians or the Germans?
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Cuz you would lose.



It is as ordinary, common and vanilla as they get.




Both of you need brain mods.



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Yeah, but this is a reckless driving law that equals jail time. How often do you commit crimes that mandate jail time? Thought so.

Umm, well in the past month ive broken 100 mph three times....
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Originally Posted by MB_Fahrer
Umm, well in the past month ive broken 100 mph three times....
Wow, can I get your autograph????
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Umm, well in the past month ive broken 100 mph three times....
So have I-at a track. Not in a 35mph zone. I lie, I cheated on a girlfriend, and I've stolen something before-so Im no saint-but the point is not to encourage someone like this by applauding their "kill" (which is in question anyway).
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Where to start? The Italians or the Germans?
Originally Posted by rockjock
So have I-at a track. Not in a 35mph zone. I lie, I cheated on a girlfriend, and I've stolen something before-so Im no saint-but the point is not to encourage someone like this by applauding their "kill" (which is in question anyway).
Well yes I live off of trackdays... but I've never had the opportunity to take my SL out to the track, yet... Which is probably why I drive like a lunatic on the streets--because I have no "outlet" where I can go as fast as I want to...
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I've stolen something before-so Im no saint-.
I stole a spool of red thread when I was a little kid.....

Originally Posted by MB_Fahrer
Well yes I live off of trackdays... but I've never had the opportunity to take my SL out to the track, yet... Which is probably why I drive like a lunatic on the streets--because I have no "outlet" where I can go as fast as I want to...
I would suggest keeping your 99 SL500 as long as you possibly can then. If you get something truly quick, you're dead or someone else is.
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I stole a spool of red thread when I was a little kid.....



I would suggest keeping your 99 SL500 as long as you possibly can then. If you get something truly quick, you're dead or someone else is.

Haha, I don't plan on ever selling my SL. I am looking for an '03 S55 though... Found a 60K mile '03 S55 in Longmont that I'm going to check out on monday... Guy only wants $27K for it. And its only a two owner car. Very clean looking...
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I've been reading and no one has really said this yet...YOU ARE STUPID FOR RACING IN THE STREETS! Let's see, you were going to work which means it was probably in the morning. Kids going to school and pedestrians crossing the streets going to work. 100+ in a 35 zone? Pedestrians? Ever think you could easily have killed a kid or someone else? Kill yourself, not some innocent bystander. What are you trying to prove? Also, if it WAS a GT, it has ABS just as your C350 which would question how you heard so much squeeling from the GT's brakes and tires.

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I've been reading and no one has really said this yet...YOU ARE STUPID FOR RACING IN THE STREETS! Let's see, you were going to work which means it was probably in the morning. Kids going to school and pedestrians crossing the streets going to work. 100+ in a 35 zone? Pedestrians? Ever think you could easily have killed a kid or someone else? Kill yourself, not some innocent bystander. What are you trying to prove? Also, if it WAS a GT, it has ABS just as your C350 which would question how you heard so much squeeling from the GT's brakes and tires.

Well no one got hurt so relax and go have some fun.
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Well no one got hurt so relax and go have some fun.
So you think it's ok to race in the streets? I would think a person with a track car would be an advocate of NOT street racing. If something bad happened and your child were killed, you wouldn't be posting a "relax and go have some fun". High speed runs on an empty freeway are done by many of us. But, this at least doesn't endanger innocent bystanders. Sorry, I really hate street racers and the danger they pose. Hope you can see my point.
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Mods, can we get the name of this thread changed to "A tale of two douchbags"?

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