s430 to 5.4 engine
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s430 to 5.4 engine
hey guys, i was looking around on the c43 forum and noticed they have a thread dedicated to swapping the engines out to a 5.4 amg engine, with no ecu modification. MY question is this, 1. they are similar engines, will it be direct fit like with the c43 people? 2. will i need to tune the ecu, the c43 do not.
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although it may seem cheaper to buy the 55 its really not for me. The engine costs me 2k. I have ashop so labor is not a problem. It also helps that I have the 03 w updates and don't have to worry about abc. I also knoe that my car is in great condition, which might not happen if I buy something else.
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i dont see why it wouldnt work... if the ecu works on the c43 and the 5.4 swap, it should work on a s430 with a 5.4 swap.
you wouldnt want a s55 ecu because that will expect an ABC suspension setup to be in place anyway.
since your labor is free , try it. youve got nothing to lose but your labor.
if it doesnt work put the 4.3 back in and resell the 5.4 motor to somoene else. you might even make money selling it
you wouldnt want a s55 ecu because that will expect an ABC suspension setup to be in place anyway.
since your labor is free , try it. youve got nothing to lose but your labor.
if it doesnt work put the 4.3 back in and resell the 5.4 motor to somoene else. you might even make money selling it
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hey guys, i was looking around on the c43 forum and noticed they have a thread dedicated to swapping the engines out to a 5.4 amg engine, with no ecu modification. MY question is this, 1. they are similar engines, will it be direct fit like with the c43 people? 2. will i need to tune the ecu, the c43 do not.
I would say you can keep your existing ME ECU but I see the main issue in the coding of the ME.
With the newer cars this can only be done with Stardiagnosis and SCN codes provided MB VeDoc factory database.
So unless you cannot manipulate VeDoc to get the correct SCN codes or you have a kind of SCN code generator you will probably fail.
Using the ECU from the donator car will also be difficult because all the other anti theft related units wont accept this ME and you cannot start the car..
Keep me posted..
Frank
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hey frank, i was thinking something similar to what you were thinking. I guess the approach im going to take is to try and start it as is. should that not work i will take my harness and swap the outer parts from old engine to the new one and see if that will work. lastly i will go with the ecu tune. what you think?
Hi, Jackass.
I would say you can keep your existing ME ECU but I see the main issue in the coding of the ME.
With the newer cars this can only be done with Stardiagnosis and SCN codes provided MB VeDoc factory database.
So unless you cannot manipulate VeDoc to get the correct SCN codes or you have a kind of SCN code generator you will probably fail.
Using the ECU from the donator car will also be difficult because all the other anti theft related units wont accept this ME and you cannot start the car..
Keep me posted..
Frank
I would say you can keep your existing ME ECU but I see the main issue in the coding of the ME.
With the newer cars this can only be done with Stardiagnosis and SCN codes provided MB VeDoc factory database.
So unless you cannot manipulate VeDoc to get the correct SCN codes or you have a kind of SCN code generator you will probably fail.
Using the ECU from the donator car will also be difficult because all the other anti theft related units wont accept this ME and you cannot start the car..
Keep me posted..
Frank
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i dont have my mitchell here ill check tomorrow, but i think they are.
here is an update though from what i have gauged so far.
1. the airflow meter, knock sensor, crank sensor, fuel filter, trans filter, oxygen sensors are all the same prt numbers.
2. the fuel injectors are not
3. this leads me to believe that i will not need the wires and can continue to use mine without swapping from my old engine to the new one.
4. i know the transmissions are diff, although same prt numbers for the filter, do you guys believe that the housing is the same though?
here is an update though from what i have gauged so far.
1. the airflow meter, knock sensor, crank sensor, fuel filter, trans filter, oxygen sensors are all the same prt numbers.
2. the fuel injectors are not
3. this leads me to believe that i will not need the wires and can continue to use mine without swapping from my old engine to the new one.
4. i know the transmissions are diff, although same prt numbers for the filter, do you guys believe that the housing is the same though?
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a NA 5.4 engine will be a direct drop in swap without any problems at all.
the stock tranny on the s430, s500 is practically the same as the supercharged s55. its rated to handle 590lbs/tq.
if you decided to drop in a supercharged 55 engine then your best bet would be to just get rid of your s430 and upgrade to an s55 since they can be had in the low 20K range.
the stock tranny on the s430, s500 is practically the same as the supercharged s55. its rated to handle 590lbs/tq.
if you decided to drop in a supercharged 55 engine then your best bet would be to just get rid of your s430 and upgrade to an s55 since they can be had in the low 20K range.
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a NA 5.4 engine will be a direct drop in swap without any problems at all.
the stock tranny on the s430, s500 is practically the same as the supercharged s55. its rated to handle 590lbs/tq.
if you decided to drop in a supercharged 55 engine then your best bet would be to just get rid of your s430 and upgrade to an s55 since they can be had in the low 20K range.
the stock tranny on the s430, s500 is practically the same as the supercharged s55. its rated to handle 590lbs/tq.
if you decided to drop in a supercharged 55 engine then your best bet would be to just get rid of your s430 and upgrade to an s55 since they can be had in the low 20K range.
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a NA 5.4 engine will be a direct drop in swap without any problems at all.
the stock tranny on the s430, s500 is practically the same as the supercharged s55. its rated to handle 590lbs/tq.
if you decided to drop in a supercharged 55 engine then your best bet would be to just get rid of your s430 and upgrade to an s55 since they can be had in the low 20K range.
the stock tranny on the s430, s500 is practically the same as the supercharged s55. its rated to handle 590lbs/tq.
if you decided to drop in a supercharged 55 engine then your best bet would be to just get rid of your s430 and upgrade to an s55 since they can be had in the low 20K range.
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been really busy, i have all the parts. everything shold b plug and play
Can you share the parts needed for this. Most have said the S430 ECU will work with the engine as the C43 to C55 have succeeded. What else do you need to consider? Any bugs and little issues at all?
