What do u guys think of new 2008 Lexus LS600?
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I promise you, if you post a question about the S550 on a lexus board, you will get nothing but DROOL comments about the looks but they will all say in the end they wouldnt buy it based on the recent reliability issues. No one would call it a Dodge or a wannabe 7 series inside or just insult it because they dont own it.
I am truly amazed at the trash the Admins and Mods have allowed to be posted on this thread.
I am truly amazed at the trash the Admins and Mods have allowed to be posted on this thread.
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Seems like they liked both cars equally. :thumbup:
Lexus LS 600h L vs S 600
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Lexus LS 600h L vs S 600
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"Mercedes S 600 belongs to the best one, what has to offer Germany in things luxury sedans. But at least on the paper the Lexus the toppt S-class in nearly all interests."
"Because the Benz already delegates disarming 830 Newtonmeters with 1900 routes to the rear axle, the Lexusdoes not have a chance also with the intermediate spurt. But it wins the consumption duel - anyhow if we believe the factory specifications. 9,5 to 14.3 litres are a clear announcement. And a very relative value, which is strongly dependent on the operating conditions. In the city, where Mercedes for S 600 proud 21.7 litres calculates, Lexus calls 11.3 litres. In practice one gets away even still more favorable after announcement of the energy flow display. The Lexus loves stop and go traffic, megaback-up and speed limit, because its large hour strikes in the partial load range and with each braking, which already before-finances the next traffic light start over the energy recovery."
"S 600 has the more sensitive steering element, the more aggressive brakes, the suppler suspension, the better handling."..."Completely madly against it the all-wheel drive which obtains that stability, functions, which creates spontaneously confidence with cat-same suppleness and slip resistance. Contrary to the short LS, which gives itself with its active Stabis somewhat more sportily, the long version hofiert primarily the rear passengers."
"The Lexus is full-plugged to over the roof with cleveren details and with innovative solutions, which address nearly all needs from the full equipment to environmental protection - and many satisfy. S 600 the better driver car may be and the more radiating status symbol, but the LS600h opens the more interesting long-term perspectives."
"Who drives much short distance - leaves itself or to drive -, to which should the Lexus into the closer choice pull. No, not only because of CO2 and Sprit save effect. But also to the satisfaction of the play impulse, which above all the rear passengers in the abundance may realize. As driving machine is not to be struck against it Mercedes. It goes around worlds better, is many more comfortable and makes all around more fun. The S-600-Budget blows up however (nearly) each framework."
"Because the Benz already delegates disarming 830 Newtonmeters with 1900 routes to the rear axle, the Lexusdoes not have a chance also with the intermediate spurt. But it wins the consumption duel - anyhow if we believe the factory specifications. 9,5 to 14.3 litres are a clear announcement. And a very relative value, which is strongly dependent on the operating conditions. In the city, where Mercedes for S 600 proud 21.7 litres calculates, Lexus calls 11.3 litres. In practice one gets away even still more favorable after announcement of the energy flow display. The Lexus loves stop and go traffic, megaback-up and speed limit, because its large hour strikes in the partial load range and with each braking, which already before-finances the next traffic light start over the energy recovery."
"S 600 has the more sensitive steering element, the more aggressive brakes, the suppler suspension, the better handling."..."Completely madly against it the all-wheel drive which obtains that stability, functions, which creates spontaneously confidence with cat-same suppleness and slip resistance. Contrary to the short LS, which gives itself with its active Stabis somewhat more sportily, the long version hofiert primarily the rear passengers."
"The Lexus is full-plugged to over the roof with cleveren details and with innovative solutions, which address nearly all needs from the full equipment to environmental protection - and many satisfy. S 600 the better driver car may be and the more radiating status symbol, but the LS600h opens the more interesting long-term perspectives."
"Who drives much short distance - leaves itself or to drive -, to which should the Lexus into the closer choice pull. No, not only because of CO2 and Sprit save effect. But also to the satisfaction of the play impulse, which above all the rear passengers in the abundance may realize. As driving machine is not to be struck against it Mercedes. It goes around worlds better, is many more comfortable and makes all around more fun. The S-600-Budget blows up however (nearly) each framework."
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Seems like they liked both cars equally. :thumbup:
Lexus LS 600h L vs S 600
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Lexus LS 600h L vs S 600
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I promise you, if you post a question about the S550 on a lexus board, you will get nothing but DROOL comments about the looks but they will all say in the end they wouldnt buy it based on the recent reliability issues. No one would call it a Dodge or a wannabe 7 series inside or just insult it because they dont own it.
I am truly amazed at the trash the Admins and Mods have allowed to be posted on this thread.
I am truly amazed at the trash the Admins and Mods have allowed to be posted on this thread.
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Rieger here is the explaination of sales. The 2007 model year S-Class was brand new in the 2006 calendar year (as was the LS I think). The car was released in February and obivously sales of a new car, especially a highly anticipated car such as the S-Class, were high. As AsianML said, there is only a limited pool of customers for cars in this league, and naturally the LS sales would surpass the S-Class this year as the demand "normalizes". Now that the "newness" has worn off slightly the sales of both cars will decrease gradually each year until their replacements come out in about 6 years time. I do not beleive it is anyone's expectation that sales of the S-Class will exceed the Lexus LS. They really are very different, the base price of the S-Class is almost $20,000 more. The base price of the 7-series and A8 are more in the LS ballpark.
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I see a lot of questions regarding the Lexus digital clock. The time on the LS is set and calibrated automatically using the GPS time. IOW, it only needs to be set once, at the same time a Time Zone is chosen. As such it is very accurate. Analog clocks like those found on MBs & BMWs are set manually.
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I see a lot of questions regarding the Lexus digital clock. The time on the LS is set and calibrated automatically using the GPS time. IOW, it only needs to be set once, at the same time a Time Zone is chosen. As such it is very accurate. Analog clocks like those found on MBs & BMWs are set manually.
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IMO, I disagree. While the S-Class has all of those, the dash and center console are very simple, clean, and elegant. The analog clock itself is pretty elegant and overall simple. The LS has a lot of tech too, but with all of the buttons around the center console, a digital clock may be easier to read with all of the distracting buttons.
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Today i was sitting at a light by the house on US1 when i see a new S65 and a(i think
) LS600 side by side. Its probably just my personal pref but in my mind i think everyone at the stoplight were too busy drooling at the S to notice the LS. Its just "out there" more than the LS
) LS600 side by side. Its probably just my personal pref but in my mind i think everyone at the stoplight were too busy drooling at the S to notice the LS. Its just "out there" more than the LS
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Aren't analog clocks an even earlier concept? Not trying to be a Lexus apologist, but I think if Lexus could have used a retro analog clock that could have been updated electronically, they might have considered "copying" what other manufacturers are doing. Then again, others would have slammed them for plagiarizing their ideas.
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Aren't analog clocks an even earlier concept? Not trying to be a Lexus apologist, but I think if Lexus could have used a retro analog clock that could have been updated electronically, they might have considered "copying" what other manufacturers are doing. Then again, others would have slammed them for plagiarizing their ideas.
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I think you guys are all missing my point. I don't have a preference either way as to digital or analog. (Although I am fond of the IWC clock in the S65 AMG, but only because I love IWC.)
My point is that there are ways to do digital without doing that type of digital. I don't know what the technical term is, but I think that type of digital clock looks out of date.
My point is that there are ways to do digital without doing that type of digital. I don't know what the technical term is, but I think that type of digital clock looks out of date.
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I think I understand your assertion. Yes, a backlit "liquid crystal" display design would open up a lot of possibilities, even one reminiscent of Old World art. I like how some cellphones offer either rigid digital or pseudo analog clock displays. And they are also updated electronically. Great idea pmb600.
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I like the button dash of the Ls a little more than the clean look of the S-Class (traditionalist), but Lexus should have differentiated the LS dash more away from other Lexus's. It looks to similar to the GS and even the IS. I actually like the stainless steel dash of the GS more than the dash of the LS which is not right. The S-Class, A8, and 7series dash looks fairly different than the their lower class cars.
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2006 Lexus GS300, 2007 Lexus GS350
LS 400, LS 430, LS 460, LS 600, the threads are sadly the same
Both cars have their pluses and minuses, both cars are cream ala crop like the A8 and 7 series.
The continuous bashing of Lexus and the LS is amazing considering the car has been a tremendous success and continues to move upmarket. In contrast the Infiniti Q45 is discontinued and the Acura RL hasn't moved upmarket with any success.
The funny thing is how Lexus did target Mercedes and BMW and whipped them initially, made the Germans GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER and now their products are improved. Thus Lexus has to improve, then the Germans have to go back and improve, etc etc.
Which is fantastic for consumers.
I'm not expecting some of you to even like the LS or Lexus but some of the comments are so off-base its not even funny.
Both cars have their pluses and minuses, both cars are cream ala crop like the A8 and 7 series.
The continuous bashing of Lexus and the LS is amazing considering the car has been a tremendous success and continues to move upmarket. In contrast the Infiniti Q45 is discontinued and the Acura RL hasn't moved upmarket with any success.
The funny thing is how Lexus did target Mercedes and BMW and whipped them initially, made the Germans GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER and now their products are improved. Thus Lexus has to improve, then the Germans have to go back and improve, etc etc.
Which is fantastic for consumers.
I'm not expecting some of you to even like the LS or Lexus but some of the comments are so off-base its not even funny.
May I add I made comments in the SC430 thread that were not intented to convert or dissuade Benz owners from liking or driving the car of their choice. My comments were meant to ask why you guys bash the Lexus so much? If you have to make yourself or your car better by putting down another you're actually telling on yourself....
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I agree big time.
May I add I made comments in the SC430 thread that were not intented to convert or dissuade Benz owners from liking or driving the car of their choice. My comments were meant to ask why you guys bash the Lexus so much? If you have to make yourself or your car better by putting down another you're actually telling on yourself....
May I add I made comments in the SC430 thread that were not intented to convert or dissuade Benz owners from liking or driving the car of their choice. My comments were meant to ask why you guys bash the Lexus so much? If you have to make yourself or your car better by putting down another you're actually telling on yourself....
After that I was like if Lexus needs to resort to insulting competition, then they are not a brand that I want to own.
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Another thing is that some of the people test drive a car for 10minutes and then say that the Lexus is a Toyota and say they are not bashing Lexus while I have had a benz for 7 years and when I say from experience that the cars are unreliable some unreasonable people here say that I am bashing MB.
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Another thing is that some of the people test drive a car for 10minutes and then say that the Lexus is a Toyota and say they are not bashing Lexus while I have had a benz for 7 years and when I say from experience that the cars are unreliable some unreasonable people here say that I am bashing MB.
Ok! take this MB SUCKS!
This should revive the thread.LOL
