What do u guys think of new 2008 Lexus LS600?
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Oh ya there is another thing that I actually like more on the MB's and other german cars than japanese cars and that is the wheel well. The germans put the right size rim and tire to fill out the wheel well properly while the Japanese cars the wheel seems a bit smaller so that you need to get afternarket rims to till out the wheel well. I was looking at my GS350 and E500 and the tires on my E500 stick out more while on the GS350 the wheels are kind of inside the fenders.
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Oh ya there is another thing that I actually like more on the MB's and other german cars than japanese cars and that is the wheel well. The germans put the right size rim and tire to fill out the wheel well properly while the Japanese cars the wheel seems a bit smaller so that you need to get afternarket rims to till out the wheel well. I was looking at my GS350 and E500 and the tires on my E500 stick out more while on the GS350 the wheels are kind of inside the fenders.
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that car in the photo you posted looks like it should be a cadillac. if it was, i'd want one. that's what i get for being born and raised in the detroit area...
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I bought a 98 E and then switched to the 01 LS and then an 04 LS and then back to an 06 E. My favorites were the 01 LS and the current 06 E. The 98 E was nice, but under equipped. The 04 was too much like the 01 and I was bored.
I really like the new LS and the new S, but both are too big for my taste. As someone who has been in both camps, both brands have the same amount of luxury to me. Lexus is always a little ahead in the toys and value proposition. MB has more style and is more fun to drive.
I think the LS will attract more LS buyers, but they won't come from S Class owners.
I really like the new LS and the new S, but both are too big for my taste. As someone who has been in both camps, both brands have the same amount of luxury to me. Lexus is always a little ahead in the toys and value proposition. MB has more style and is more fun to drive.
I think the LS will attract more LS buyers, but they won't come from S Class owners.
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I bought a 98 E and then switched to the 01 LS and then an 04 LS and then back to an 06 E. My favorites were the 01 LS and the current 06 E. The 98 E was nice, but under equipped. The 04 was too much like the 01 and I was bored.
I really like the new LS and the new S, but both are too big for my taste. As someone who has been in both camps, both brands have the same amount of luxury to me. Lexus is always a little ahead in the toys and value proposition. MB has more style and is more fun to drive.
I think the LS will attract more LS buyers, but they won't come from S Class owners.
I really like the new LS and the new S, but both are too big for my taste. As someone who has been in both camps, both brands have the same amount of luxury to me. Lexus is always a little ahead in the toys and value proposition. MB has more style and is more fun to drive.
I think the LS will attract more LS buyers, but they won't come from S Class owners.
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I suspect younger people moving up to the 80K+ tier will consider their options and many will decide on the LS in either variation. I think E Class owners are likely to consider the LS if they want something bigger. I think 7 Series owners would consider the LS, too.
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Hit it right on the head, most of the A8 and 7 series drivers are looking for enthusiast cars while LS and Benz are more for luxury cars
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I bought a 98 E and then switched to the 01 LS and then an 04 LS and then back to an 06 E. My favorites were the 01 LS and the current 06 E. The 98 E was nice, but under equipped. The 04 was too much like the 01 and I was bored.
I really like the new LS and the new S, but both are too big for my taste. As someone who has been in both camps, both brands have the same amount of luxury to me. Lexus is always a little ahead in the toys and value proposition. MB has more style and is more fun to drive.
I think the LS will attract more LS buyers, but they won't come from S Class owners.
I really like the new LS and the new S, but both are too big for my taste. As someone who has been in both camps, both brands have the same amount of luxury to me. Lexus is always a little ahead in the toys and value proposition. MB has more style and is more fun to drive.
I think the LS will attract more LS buyers, but they won't come from S Class owners.
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Well even Lexus execs admitted in a recent article that people who consider the S, 7, or A8 wont give the LS a second look, simply because they have a short shopping list.
I for one am turned off by the Camry styling and blatant side profile copying from BMW. Plus the interior looks the same as the old LS.
I for one am turned off by the Camry styling and blatant side profile copying from BMW. Plus the interior looks the same as the old LS.
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The fact is that people cross shop all these cars so to say that this group won't look at that and this group won't look at that is pretty naive. The only group that likely won't cross shop this class is those who have their mind made up on getting a Maserati Quattroporte. In fact the S and LS are likely cross shopped more than the LS and 7-Series and A8 are, as more LS owners are likely former Benz owners than 7-Series and A8 owners. Though there are some from all brands at Lexus now.
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I really must say, I am not a big Lexus fan.
Actually I hate Lexus, that is not a real luxory car in my opinion, but one thing is sure they have good cars. I cant imagine to drive S-Class or CL and then to buy a Lexus.
This car is still Japanese and will always be, they can try whatever they like, but they will never have the same feeling as a German car.
But taste are different, I know many people they swear on Lexus(never have any problems).
Anyway I rather have small problems sometime but a much more beatyfull and speacial car than no(or less) problems and a pretty Idealess car.
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Actually I hate Lexus, that is not a real luxory car in my opinion, but one thing is sure they have good cars. I cant imagine to drive S-Class or CL and then to buy a Lexus.
This car is still Japanese and will always be, they can try whatever they like, but they will never have the same feeling as a German car.
But taste are different, I know many people they swear on Lexus(never have any problems).
Anyway I rather have small problems sometime but a much more beatyfull and speacial car than no(or less) problems and a pretty Idealess car.
Shai
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It is 2007 World Car of the Year rice burner for you. It beat out MB's CL. And don't tell me that this award means nothing because if the MB S-class would have won it last you would be hollering about it also but it was beat out by the 3 series.
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/lexus-de...ls-600h-l.html
It'll only put out 20% of the smog of a normal V-8, have a butter smooth trans, tons of luxury, and be only 104k, and supposedly extremely reliable. Any thoughts?
Do you guys think it could steal some serious sales away from the S-Class? Oh and they say it'll be AWD, which is even better. Supposedly with the CVT transmission and the electric motors, it'll be the quietest car in the world to drive.
It'll only put out 20% of the smog of a normal V-8, have a butter smooth trans, tons of luxury, and be only 104k, and supposedly extremely reliable. Any thoughts?
Do you guys think it could steal some serious sales away from the S-Class? Oh and they say it'll be AWD, which is even better. Supposedly with the CVT transmission and the electric motors, it'll be the quietest car in the world to drive.
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Seems like anything that doesn't favor the MB brand is labeled dumb by some of you. You should look things up before calling it dumb.
WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR AWARDS: Fact Sheet
WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR AWARDS
FACTSHEET
What are the World Car of the Year Awards?
* Initially conceived and created March 2003. Officially launched January 2004.
* A program initiated by, organized by, and conducted by automotive journalists from all over the world.
* Administered by a non-profit association, under the guidance of a Steering Committee of distinguished automotive journalists from Asia, Europe, and North America. First Steering Committee established in January 2004 in Detroit, USA. Head office based in Toronto, Canada.
* Intended to complement, not compete with those existing national and regional COTY awards, which are inherently different in scope.
* No affiliation with, nor is it in any way influenced by any publication, auto show, automaker, or other commercial enterprise.
http://www.wcoty.com/2007/fact_sheet.asp
WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR AWARDS: Fact Sheet
WORLD CAR OF THE YEAR AWARDS
FACTSHEET
What are the World Car of the Year Awards?
* Initially conceived and created March 2003. Officially launched January 2004.
* A program initiated by, organized by, and conducted by automotive journalists from all over the world.
* Administered by a non-profit association, under the guidance of a Steering Committee of distinguished automotive journalists from Asia, Europe, and North America. First Steering Committee established in January 2004 in Detroit, USA. Head office based in Toronto, Canada.
* Intended to complement, not compete with those existing national and regional COTY awards, which are inherently different in scope.
* No affiliation with, nor is it in any way influenced by any publication, auto show, automaker, or other commercial enterprise.
http://www.wcoty.com/2007/fact_sheet.asp
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While there are a lot MB enthusiasts who won't consider any other brand. Lexus has the same level of dedicated customers.
I like to think that most MB owners love their car like I do. Right now there is no other model I want more than the MB I have now. When it's time to replace my car, MB will be the first car I consider. But not the only one.
I like to think that most MB owners love their car like I do. Right now there is no other model I want more than the MB I have now. When it's time to replace my car, MB will be the first car I consider. But not the only one.
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No it doesn't make it better than the CL, but you have posters who say the car and Lexus is crap and sh$t. So to make a point that if 50 international automobile journalists who test cars for a living voted this car over the CL then this car cannot be ****. The 2 cars don't compete but are not judge that way they are judged individually so to make it fair. That is why much cheaper cars was runners up.
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Well let me reiterate...car publications are usually dumb--they sometimes don't understand all the features of the car, why certain things are the way they are, and they compare incompatible cars. For example, edmunds recently compared the M6 to the SL65 AMG. They gave it to the M6 because it was cheaper. That is an idiotic comparison, and if someone can't see that I don't know what to say.
Now as for this World Car of the Year bs...I don't care how many automotive journalists reviewed these cars...what were their criteria? Anyway, awards and so-called "professional" reviews mean nothing to me and many of the members of this forum. So keep quoting, it's not going to get you anywhere.
Now as for this World Car of the Year bs...I don't care how many automotive journalists reviewed these cars...what were their criteria? Anyway, awards and so-called "professional" reviews mean nothing to me and many of the members of this forum. So keep quoting, it's not going to get you anywhere.
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Can you find that picture for me? I am friends with his US business partners and theres slim chance he would be wearing anything like a chinese quarz watch. If you are going to make a claim - gotta back it up =)
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