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Old 03-30-2016, 06:18 PM
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I'm guessing that a lot of shops would want to do the whole job or nothing. Otherwise they lose control of the result, and it's easy to get a disgruntled customer with unreasonable expectations.
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Well he owns that MB shop so I'd be reasonably confident. Even in the 222 it's the quarters that would be aluminum and the inner trunk structure including the rear panel would be steel, but yeah magnets should stick to it. I wouldn't advertise to the shops that it's a salvage car, because from a repair standpoint it's irrelevant.

Just tell them it got rear ended, the other guy was uninsured and you didn't carry full coverage on it because it's an 08 and you paid cash.

Have you looked into whether it's insurable after its fixed? I changed carriers this weekend and every one I got a quote from made a point to state they won't insure rebuilt salvage cars. Might want to get ahead of that before spending more money.
In Washington/Oregon they will Fully insure. The car must have a light inspection to do so. My Brother and I both own salvaged Acura TLs, Both are fully insured. There was never a mention of it costing more due to salvage.

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Have you looked into whether it's insurable after its fixed? I changed carriers this weekend and every one I got a quote from made a point to state they won't insure rebuilt salvage cars. Might want to get ahead of that before spending more money.
Very true that he may not be able to get collision coverage on that car. Although I'm sure he'd still be able to get liability coverage, albeit at a higher premium since a rebuilt salvage car likely carries higher risk to the insurance companies in the event of an accident.
Old 03-30-2016, 06:24 PM
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I'm guessing that a lot of shops would want to do the whole job or nothing. Otherwise they lose control of the result, and it's easy to get a disgruntled customer with unreasonable expectations.
I just need a frame pull from the reinforcement and that lip worked out. The quarters will PDR and I will buy new hinges for the trunk. The other ones both bent.


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Old 03-30-2016, 06:30 PM
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Well Florida is the insurance fraud Capitol of the country so not surprising. First carrier wouldn't take us because the S had an MSRP over $100k. Esurance declined because I had my back checked out...no injury claim, just a walk in clinic visit and MRI... after a minor rear ender. Any medical claim in Florida ever was a disqualification. That was on a policy for full coverage, 4 cars, $250k/$500k BI, $250k/$500k UM, $100k PD, around $4,000 every 6 months. Not negotiable.
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The quarters will PDR
Why do you keep saying this? It is 100% wrong. PDR is for fixing door dings and very small dents where the metal wasn't stretched. If the panels can even be repaired, they are going to require lots of massaging, body filler, multiple levels of sanding, and a full paint job that will blend into the rear doors. I see you're still in full goof mode.
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Why do you keep saying this? It is 100% wrong. PDR is for fixing door dings and very small dents where the metal wasn't stretched. If the panels can even be repaired, they are going to require lots of massaging, body filler, multiple levels of sanding, and a full paint job that will blend into the rear doors. I see you're still in full goof mode.
Youtube PDR and see what work can be done. Once the back is pulled most of that quarter will pop back(unless Mike and MAACO were pulling my leg). After the pull it will be a minor dent albeit on the ridge.

I'm not sure what I will do about that rear lip.

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Originally Posted by mercedesbenzs55
I just need a frame pull from the reinforcement and that lip worked out. The quarters will PDR and I will buy new hinges for the trunk. The other ones both bent.

Mercedes-Benz S-Class 2007 W221 Pop The Trunk - YouTube
LOL Thats the first time I've seen somebody "pop the trunk" with a box cutter.
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So you do realize that your gauge is English and measuring inches and not metric measuring mm........ right?

and .032 INCHES = .8 millimeters? right?

i suspect you were "punked" on this one
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i suspect you were "punked" on this one
the whole thread feels that way. it's hard to comprehend anyone making the decisions made but who knows?
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I can't believe I just read/scanned through 58 pages of this.


**** the Haters.

Did you get your electrical resolved?
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Why is it when I accelerate normally-lightly more than usual throttle my tranny shifts smooth as butter. But when I accelerate very conservatively-normal it sometimes lightly stutters into the shift. Almost like the torque converter isn't engaging like it should while shifting.

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I can't believe I just read/scanned through 58 pages of this.


**** the Haters.

Did you get your electrical resolved?
Yup, with the insight of the forum we got it all squared away. Now I just need to get a Star scan. But for what MB will charge me I might aswell get a chinese knock off.

Can Valve body shift points be programmed with the Star knock-off?
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On my 2012 shift points are noticeably different if you are in sport vs economy mode. Not sure if you have that or not.
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Mine are different aswell.

I read the maintenance booklet for my year and the tranny oil and filter are 13k overdue per the required maintenance. Perhaps like the spark plugs(which went bad 13k miles before the required service), the tranny oil/filter are bad too?

I don't want to compare my Honda to a 'Cedes, but my TL had a similar crappy shift until i changed the Tranny oil. From past experience with my W221 its just maintenance neglect. But hey! He changed the air filters!
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The transmission will start in 2nd gear from a dead stop vs first. it adapts to driving style. You can do a transmission control unit reset (do a search on the forum, typically it is hold the gas pedal down a few seconds, key to position 1 or 2, wait 2 second, release gas pedal, turn off the ignition or something like that. Than go for a drive. The first minute or two resets the "learned" behavior of the car. I do it periodically in my w212 to prevent the 1st/2nd gear lag from stop (my primary pet peeve about the car actually).
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The transmission should have two selectable modes, Comfort and Sport. Comfort starts in 2nd gear from a stop and upshifts quickly to get to 7th. Sport starts in first and holds upshifts longer, improving performance. In the 2010+ the C/S button on the center console controls the modes. In 2010+ the car will revert to Comfort at each restart. 07-09 will retain the last setting. The selected mode shows on the gauge cluster as a C or S by the gear display.
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Originally Posted by Mike5215
The transmission should have two selectable modes, Comfort and Sport. Comfort starts in 2nd gear from a stop and upshifts quickly to get to 7th. Sport starts in first and holds upshifts longer, improving performance. In the 2010+ the C/S button on the center console controls the modes. In 2010+ the car will revert to Comfort at each restart. 07-09 will retain the last setting. The selected mode shows on the gauge cluster as a C or S by the gear display.
Along with that breakdown is the TCU/ECU reset to wipe out the "memory" of driving habits and styles the same on the 221 as my car?

1.) Get into the car
2.) pull off the keyless go button, insert key and turn to position 2 (second click, do not start car. All dash lights will illuminate).
3.) depress gas pedal for 10 seconds.
4.) with gas pedal still depressed, turn key back to position 0.
5.) after key is turned back to zero THAN remove foot from gas pedal
6.) wait for 2 full minutes without opening any doors or touching anything. You will likely hear a faint click at some point.

7.) go test drive your car. The first few minutes will potentially feel a little jerky but you will likely notice no delay in immediate starting and feel like the car is MUCH more powerful. Spend 15 minutes driving in your "normal" driving style. Don't race the car unless you plan to drive that way all the time.

You will as a result notice a notable decrease in fuel economy during this learning time and while you enjoy the extra ponies.

This is free.... It requires no tools. Report back if it helps.
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It worked! I didn't feel any jerking like you mentioned. I didn't gun it, just drove as usual and all the shift stumbling and hesitation went away after reset. Shifts are smooth and right on time!

Thank you for that!

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Originally Posted by Mike5215
Picked it up Friday, just changed my info on here.


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Nothing like a new car built to order, at least until the novelty wears off. So far, no regrets.
Looks like your wife picked it up, is that her in the reflection?

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Well Florida is the insurance fraud Capitol of the country so not surprising. First carrier wouldn't take us because the S had an MSRP over $100k. Esurance declined because I had my back checked out...no injury claim, just a walk in clinic visit and MRI... after a minor rear ender. Any medical claim in Florida ever was a disqualification. That was on a policy for full coverage, 4 cars, $250k/$500k BI, $250k/$500k UM, $100k PD, around $4,000 every 6 months. Not negotiable.
What a bunch skeezy bald faced scamming bunch of thieves. so if you had ever been hit by someone and suffered a personal injury you were uninsurable.

Those as****s are truly inconscionable.

I'm surprised the insurance companies aren't handing out billy bats to the homeless down there they same way they hand out laser guns to the state police everywhere. Effin hypocrites and vermin, the lot of them.

I told my mother once "you understand of course that it is mathematically impossible for insurance to ever be a good investment, right?"
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insurance isn't an investment. it's a payment for peace of mind. generally good to have, much like a warranty.
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What a bunch skeezy bald faced scamming bunch of thieves. so if you had ever been hit by someone and suffered a personal injury you were uninsurable.

Those as****s are truly inconscionable.

I'm surprised the insurance companies aren't handing out billy bats to the homeless down there they same way they hand out laser guns to the state police everywhere. Effin hypocrites and vermin, the lot of them.

I told my mother once "you understand of course that it is mathematically impossible for insurance to ever be a good investment, right?"
Unless one was involved in insurance fraud, in which case it could pay. I hate insurance companies.
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Originally Posted by mercedesbenzs55
It worked! I didn't feel any jerking like you mentioned. I didn't gun it, just drove as usual and all the shift stumbling and hesitation went away after reset. Shifts are smooth and right on time!

Thank you for that!
Glad to hear it worked!!! It's one of the most powerful/effective/only things you can do in these cars without STAR. I end up doing that procedure once every couple months. (I actually need to do it again myself). The hesitation ultimately will come back and you will simply need to repeat that process... I believe it is programmed to maximize fuel efficiency and more slowly and with greater hesitation wait to downshift if it feels your driving style will tolerate it.
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insurance isn't an investment. it's a payment for peace of mind. generally good to have, much like a warranty.
Yeah I agree. Yet strangely, you commonly get insurance salesmen using that investment word all the time, particularly with life insurance and annuities.

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